Another example of BBC lying about users.

[OnlyOneSolution]

Snippet from BBC article published 10/26/24.

 

[Privateer2368]

well suicide is actually bad yk, it's not a yay dancing in the marigolds thing

and some people need medicine and psychotherapy to feel better, yes. If one breaks a leg and there is a piece of bone sticking out, one is not expected to fix it oneself. Same with a mind needing "repairs". What if the depression and the consequent will to exit are caused by hypothyroidism and will be fixed by a pill in about three days?

and the treatments must be approved, yes.

Proof: "therapists bad". Yes, because calling oneself "therapist" is unregulated. So people go to "therapy" and it's not an evidence-based thing in which the therapist had to study a few years and pass an exam that ensures at least a minimum standard.

Proof second: "regulating drugs bad". Yes just buy the pill of wonderplant, it "helps with" cancer and dandruff and stomach ache. Deregulate drugs, test nothing against placebo or preexisting treatment.

@ learned colleague above quoting the OSA by which I mean online safety act, not the official secrets act :-D

you selectively quoted the bits that support your anti-BBC stance. Be fair and note that the definition of "recognised news publisher" in the OSA includes many other recognised news publishers.

Note too that a person, i.e. a human being committing an offence is not a corporation committing it. A journalist who publishes something on purpose to cause harm is committing an offence. And mind you, causing actual certifiable direct harm with a causal link is a completely different crime.

Your OSA quotes mix natural persons i.e. human beings committing offences with corporations, i.e. fictional persons committing offences.

BBC journalists cater to the public that likes the BBC. ITV to those that watch that wild channel :-D also yk BBC - BBC1 is very different from BBC3.

Yes "my license fee pays for rubbish" - however, the license fee also pays for Radio 4

I am sure some would say that Radio 4 is rubbish.

The journalists were ofc not impartial or objective and suited the article to their narrative and public.

Idk the context of the passage in the OP. They are ofc drawing attention to this forum and - were they really wanting to get rid of it - would not have ever written anything remotely connected to it.

Curiously enough, nothing about usenet's ash lol.

Who the hell still pays the licence fee???

 

[Unrequitedlife]

Many will know about the recent article released by the dynamic duo at the BBC.

They focused their energy on the partner thread and covered descriptions of how they believed the thread had caused harm.

But that wasn't the primary topic of this thread.

Within that article, they created a narrative to claim that a specific member had flown to the UK after 'meeting another member on the partner thread' and then '11 days later, the UK member passed away in their hotel room', and that the user who flew over 'claimed that he was sleeping.'

The journalists claimed that he flew over to the UK to meet his CTB (commit suicide) partner with the sole aim in "assisting" in a woman's suicide: THIS IS A LIE.

Those journalists obviously don't "know" shit. Nice use of inverted commas by the way, and you know full well you are not naming him because he would sue you into oblivion if you tried to.

What's worse is that the journalists have spoken to the member involved, and they know exactly what happened and how the experience left him broken and traumatized but, most importantly, that he was completely innocent of what they were claiming, so why were they trying to insert him into the narrative of predators on the Partner Thread? Could not find enough existing 'predators' to meet your word count?

Firstly, these members did not meet on the partner thread; they were both well-known chat members who became close and developed a romantic relationship through the summer of 2022, and he was trying to support her and help her to recover, as were multiple other users on the site.

They were talking since July, and her first entry on the partner thread was not until August. If he was her intended CTB partner, then why would she be posting on the partner thread when she already knew him?

The female member was living out of hostels while being refused every avenue of NHS help that she was trying to explore, so he flew over to put them both up in a hotel and attempted to support her himself in hopes that she could start a recovery process that way. In addition to this, she was mute so all of their dialogue was available for police to read through because they communicated through their devices.

Ten days into that visit, she snuck back to her hostel and retrieved her SN (self-harm substance) without his knowledge (he was messaging another user in a panic because she left the hotel and was not responding to his messages and he did not know where she'd gone) and CTB while he was sleeping the next morning. He woke upon hearing her collapse, and called 999 while endeavoring to save her.

On top of that, he was investigated because he was in the room, and the only part that the BBC got right was that he was cleared of all wrongdoing.

It's beyond disgusting that these journalists would use such a traumatizing event to attempt to frame him as some sort of predator who flew over to help her die.

The BBC should be ashamed of themselves for using their platform in such a corrupt way just because their journalist was so emotionally invested in forcing his own narrative. The truth of the facts should be enough to argue your point, and your conduct is no better than fixers who are just using you as a mouthpiece now.

You treat members who speak to you this way and then wonder why other users refuse to talk to you. You have already decided what kind of people members on the forum are, and apparently, if they're not crying on camera, then their voices don't matter.

If you really think it's okay to take the experience of a broken, grieving, and traumatized member and selectively quote his testimony given to you in order to misleadingly paint him as a predator, then you can stick your article up your BBC Verify.

Once again the media proving them selves to be nothing more than tools of propaganda to support the agendas of corrupt individuals.
I myself have come to a point in my life where i read, listen or watch little or no news. I can't trust it, much less have any influence on the negative issues that are perpetually reported. i just focus on my life and the things that i can influence.

 

[ma0]

Snippet from BBC article published 10/26/24.

I find it really odd how not a single article about this forum has ever mentioned the recovery section, where the aim is to help people overcome their suicidal tendencies.

Maybe it's because it doesn't fit their narrative of the big scary death forum where everyone wants to kill you?

 

[Blue Dream]

I actually found this forum thanks to the BBC, joke's on them
I've yet to be encouraged to CTB though.

 

[Overwhelmed52]

This forum has helped me so much. No one has ever come close to encouraging me to CTB and it's just been a place where people can understand what I'm feeling. That has been such a relief. It has even helped me know that I don't have to CTB and can hold on.
People who don't feel this way just have no idea why this is important. Even my own fears/anxieties go up and down and sometimes I need this site and sometimes I don't. But when I do, it is really, really helpful.

 

[Flirtingwithdemons]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jg55nk9ggo

God I fucking hate the narrative around suicide. I'm gonna be so pissed if I lose access here.

 

[brittlemoth]

Many will know about the recent article released by the dynamic duo at the BBC.

They focused their energy on the partner thread and covered descriptions of how they believed the thread had caused harm.

But that wasn't the primary topic of this thread.

Within that article, they created a narrative to claim that a specific member had flown to the UK after 'meeting another member on the partner thread' and then '11 days later, the UK member passed away in their hotel room', and that the user who flew over 'claimed that he was sleeping.'

The journalists claimed that he flew over to the UK to meet his CTB (commit suicide) partner with the sole aim in "assisting" in a woman's suicide: THIS IS A LIE.

Those journalists obviously don't "know" shit. Nice use of inverted commas by the way, and you know full well you are not naming him because he would sue you into oblivion if you tried to.

What's worse is that the journalists have spoken to the member involved, and they know exactly what happened and how the experience left him broken and traumatized but, most importantly, that he was completely innocent of what they were claiming, so why were they trying to insert him into the narrative of predators on the Partner Thread? Could not find enough existing 'predators' to meet your word count?

Firstly, these members did not meet on the partner thread; they were both well-known chat members who became close and developed a romantic relationship through the summer of 2022, and he was trying to support her and help her to recover, as were multiple other users on the site.

They were talking since July, and her first entry on the partner thread was not until August. If he was her intended CTB partner, then why would she be posting on the partner thread when she already knew him?

The female member was living out of hostels while being refused every avenue of NHS help that she was trying to explore, so he flew over to put them both up in a hotel and attempted to support her himself in hopes that she could start a recovery process that way. In addition to this, she was mute so all of their dialogue was available for police to read through because they communicated through their devices.

Ten days into that visit, she snuck back to her hostel and retrieved her SN (self-harm substance) without his knowledge (he was messaging another user in a panic because she left the hotel and was not responding to his messages and he did not know where she'd gone) and CTB while he was sleeping the next morning. He woke upon hearing her collapse, and called 999 while endeavoring to save her.

On top of that, he was investigated because he was in the room, and the only part that the BBC got right was that he was cleared of all wrongdoing.

It's beyond disgusting that these journalists would use such a traumatizing event to attempt to frame him as some sort of predator who flew over to help her die.

The BBC should be ashamed of themselves for using their platform in such a corrupt way just because their journalist was so emotionally invested in forcing his own narrative. The truth of the facts should be enough to argue your point, and your conduct is no better than fixers who are just using you as a mouthpiece now.

You treat members who speak to you this way and then wonder why other users refuse to talk to you. You have already decided what kind of people members on the forum are, and apparently, if they're not crying on camera, then their voices don't matter.

If you really think it's okay to take the experience of a broken, grieving, and traumatized member and selectively quote his testimony given to you in order to misleadingly paint him as a predator, then you can stick your article up your BBC Verify.

Could not finish this trash article. Got through most of it though. Love listening to them explain to everyone how we're poor victims of ourselves and this evil website. Never the systems around us of course. Why would any news cite ever analyze the bullshit they say when they can just spew out a narrative? You know what suicidal people love? Being treated like babies who are constantly vulnerable to anything that may incite us to violence against ourselves. Everyone loves being paternalized constantly, right? And it's great to see them stirring everyone up again, getting them raising their pitchforks against the only major safe space suicidal people have to talk openly with each other on the entire internet. They never talk to the users of course. Never get their opinion. We're just too sick to think clearly so there would be no point. Love that narrative.

 

[ItsAllSoTiresome]

Could not finish this trash article. Got through most of it though. Love listening to them explain to everyone how we're poor victims of ourselves and this evil website. Never the systems around us of course. Why would any news cite ever analyze the bullshit they say when they can just spew out a narrative? You know what suicidal people love? Being treated like babies who are constantly vulnerable to anything that may incite us to violence against ourselves. Everyone loves being paternalized constantly, right? And it's great to see them stirring everyone up again, getting them raising their pitchforks against the only major safe space suicidal people have to talk openly with each other on the entire internet. They never talk to the users of course. Never get their opinion. We're just too sick to think clearly so there would be no point. Love that narrative.

The BBC are utter scum, I cannot express in words just how much I hate their snivelling, patronizing, pearl-clutching, faux-concern drivel masquerading as "journalism".

 

[Shadows From Hell]

One of the things they also fail to address, is how we are more comfortable talking with others who feel the same way we do. When I am having one of my days, I tend to spend more time on this site, and not for the suicide ideas. I come here and read other's threads about how they are feeling that same day, and how they are trying to cope with it. I will even make a topic if I see fit, and whether I feel comfortable or not saying anything.

Reading other topics that have nothing to do with suicide and /or depression, the games here created by other users, or something funny that happened to them that day. Those little things can brighten our day, but they refuse to address that.

To lose this site, would throw a majority of us into turmoil, and since we would no longer have access to this site, I think the suicide statistics would rise. I would be one of those numbers.

 

[gutsofanangel444]

Many will know about the recent article released by the dynamic duo at the BBC.

They focused their energy on the partner thread and covered descriptions of how they believed the thread had caused harm.

But that wasn't the primary topic of this thread.

Within that article, they created a narrative to claim that a specific member had flown to the UK after 'meeting another member on the partner thread' and then '11 days later, the UK member passed away in their hotel room', and that the user who flew over 'claimed that he was sleeping.'

The journalists claimed that he flew over to the UK to meet his CTB (commit suicide) partner with the sole aim in "assisting" in a woman's suicide: THIS IS A LIE.

Those journalists obviously don't "know" shit. Nice use of inverted commas by the way, and you know full well you are not naming him because he would sue you into oblivion if you tried to.

What's worse is that the journalists have spoken to the member involved, and they know exactly what happened and how the experience left him broken and traumatized but, most importantly, that he was completely innocent of what they were claiming, so why were they trying to insert him into the narrative of predators on the Partner Thread? Could not find enough existing 'predators' to meet your word count?

Firstly, these members did not meet on the partner thread; they were both well-known chat members who became close and developed a romantic relationship through the summer of 2022, and he was trying to support her and help her to recover, as were multiple other users on the site.

They were talking since July, and her first entry on the partner thread was not until August. If he was her intended CTB partner, then why would she be posting on the partner thread when she already knew him?

The female member was living out of hostels while being refused every avenue of NHS help that she was trying to explore, so he flew over to put them both up in a hotel and attempted to support her himself in hopes that she could start a recovery process that way. In addition to this, she was mute so all of their dialogue was available for police to read through because they communicated through their devices.

Ten days into that visit, she snuck back to her hostel and retrieved her SN (self-harm substance) without his knowledge (he was messaging another user in a panic because she left the hotel and was not responding to his messages and he did not know where she'd gone) and CTB while he was sleeping the next morning. He woke upon hearing her collapse, and called 999 while endeavoring to save her.

On top of that, he was investigated because he was in the room, and the only part that the BBC got right was that he was cleared of all wrongdoing.

It's beyond disgusting that these journalists would use such a traumatizing event to attempt to frame him as some sort of predator who flew over to help her die.

The BBC should be ashamed of themselves for using their platform in such a corrupt way just because their journalist was so emotionally invested in forcing his own narrative. The truth of the facts should be enough to argue your point, and your conduct is no better than fixers who are just using you as a mouthpiece now.

You treat members who speak to you this way and then wonder why other users refuse to talk to you. You have already decided what kind of people members on the forum are, and apparently, if they're not crying on camera, then their voices don't matter.

If you really think it's okay to take the experience of a broken, grieving, and traumatized member and selectively quote his testimony given to you in order to misleadingly paint him as a predator, then you can stick your article up your BBC Verify.

this is absolutely devastating to hear.
I understand that some people will perceive this site as dangerous and will not be able to understand how beneficial it can be for users, however to twist such a traumatising story so that you can villainise not only a whole community of people but also somebody who has been through something immensely painful, is just disgraceful. in absolutely no way do we encourage each other to end our lives- that narrative is extremely harmful to push and whilst I get that they can hardly promote the site, there was nothing that provoked them to post an article like that. sickening.

 

[zappynomore]

its funny because the only way I found out about this place was because of the BBC. and tbh i kinda did believe there lies about this place at first. But you know what having been here for a little bit now its clear how big of liars they are.

This place is a god send. And a force for good. Glad to have met and chatted to some of you all. And I look forward to getting to know and chat to more of you in the future.

 

[Spicy Tteokbokki]

autism, depression and anxiety

As someone who has been suffering through similar my entire life it doesn't surprise me. It's a hard thing to go through, especially when you get no help and nobody can understand you. Even more so when you get accused of having everything else under the sun because of it and they try to treat you for things you don't have, forcing you to cope alone, but there's a limit to what you can do because society™ is a pain for us neurodiverse folks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jg55nk9ggo

God I fucking hate the narrative around suicide. I'm gonna be so pissed if I lose access here.

 

[Walpurgisnacht]

The BBC is basically a state-funded tabloid & propaganda outlet with its own little insular political project.

They're experts in lying, in intimidation, and in bullying people; they've been doing it for decades.

They used to target people's neighbourhoods buying physical advertisements that essentially doxxed people who refused to give them money, they pretended to have "TV detecting vans" that they drove around to frighten people into paying them, which was a totally made up thing, they just drove around people's houses menacingly pointing antennae at houses that hadn't yet given them money. And they employ people who's sole job it is to intimidate people who refuse to give them money directly, they dress and act like police officers to scare you into letting them inside, but they don't actually have any legal authority at all, they're private employees of the BBC.

All this to say, this behaviour doesn't surprise me...
This reminds me of a while ago when the BBC published an article based on literal made-up statistics (that they even acknowledged were not valid statistics) for the only purpose of making it seem like transgender people were more dangerous and violent to women and OFCOM refused to take that proven falsified lie based propaganda piece explicitly targeting a marginalised group they don't like with disinformation down.
So, the BBC once again publishing propaganda explicitly targeting another marginalised group they don't like with slimy lie-based disinformation is not shocking at all... Deeply shameful and dangerous behaviour, but that's their MO, that's how they operate.

(Extra reminder that you do not have to listen to the TV license people and you really should not give the BBC any money, just pirate their shows if you want to watch them.)

 

[lucyanne]

I feel so much for whoever the poor person was to have to suffer through having something so deeply used and weaponised against others like us.

We just want to find our own way, we don't want to hurt anyone which is why this place exists in the first place.

TO MINIMIZE PAIN AND SUFFERING

Not just for us both those who will undoubtedly be affected by our leaving by giving us the support to maybe say goodbye or offer suggestions to lessen the impact or just offer support and a comforting shoulder.


Why would you want to take away the last refuge we have at the end???

 

[Aloneandinpain]

Saw the new BBC hit-piece yesterday.

Seen some terrible articles but that one breaks every single BBC guideline in the book. They're supposed to be impartial and so that means telling both sides of the story. Not sure if they sought comment from anyone here, but Regis that there's plenty of info here they can quote in defence of thus site's existence.

To write the article they put out yesterday without so much as one word in defence of this site is an extreme new low for them. The entire point if the BBC's existence used to be that they could be impartial, yet they're just Labour Party activists now.

 

[whywere]

If history teaches the UK folks anything it would be that human nature CANNOT be put in a bottle and/or controlled or eliminated ever.

Do the powers that be in the UK think/believe that getting rid of SaSu will either decrease or eliminate suicide? NOPE NEVER!

This site is NOT about suicide at all, it is about human nature and one's ability to interact with others who might have some aspects of their lives in common and working together.

For GODS sake UK government work on nuclear disarmament, eliminating the war in Ukraine and a lot more serious issues than a bunch of folks who are just working together looking out for each other.

Walter

 

[fadinggirl]

At this point there's no worth in debate.

Hey opposers, Tantacrul, whoever. You do this because you know you have nothing on the forum. Your posts only bring even more people to the forum and every attempt at censorship has failed. And for it we are grateful.

You can't do anything. If the place gets banned somewhere, we'll release more domains, and if the place is taken down, I'll torrent every single method here and host it on my own. If you restruct our domains in your place, we can release new ones, and if you changed the law, we can just move elsewhere. And if all that fails, we can share all this content without needing any of that. Not to mention anti-censorship tools exist and people use them.

I'll spread it as far as I can to leave clear that, no matter what you do, we're stronger, the site will only keep growing, and we're winning. Thanks to your constant attention more people finds those everyday, and I'll preserve all of them, cuz I dedicate myself to spreading the right to die as far as I can.

People like me exist making all this possible and we do it because we can. And there's not a single thing you can do to prevent it.

If you wanna doxx me, go ahead. I mean that as a genuine challenge. There's literally no piece of data you can use against me.

lol just as true as u think! ironically i found sasu from one of these articles, literally never wouldve imagined or searched for any sort of suicide website had they not mentioned one, and it didnt take long to find the website name that they wouldn't mention. before this i thought the worst that was allowed on the internet was the pro-recovery suicide-subreddit.