Method Amitriptilyne + Diazepam cocktail very effective?

[AnonymousS]

Apparently Amitriptilyne is very toxic in large quantities and it's part of the DDMA cocktail. I have like 8 boxes and could get Diazepam a bottle. Will this suffice combined with alcohol?? I'm 48kg slender female. A quick google search shows results of deaths and high cardio toxic effects of this drug. Any advice would be very welcome. I think it's mentioned in the Pph book?

You would not need Diazepam in a Amitripyline overdose.

 

[PArazi]

You would not need Diazepam in a Amitripyline overdose.

Yes, this is true, and not. Benzos indications is just to make the method more peaceful. But that depends what tutorial you have following.

Based on the drug half life (how long the drug acts), the information indicates two types of benzos. One(Midazolam, short half life) to act quickly and another one(Diazepam, long half life) to have a slow effect. One knocks u out faster and the other keep the unconsciousness(in a coma) for more time, which guarantees more safety for this method.

Midazolam has a more depressant effect on the nervous system, compared to others benzos. Also has a faster sedative effect and a good hypnotic effect(you don't see that coming). Despite this, staying in a coma is the most important thing, which is why a drug is needed to ensure that.

I don't know how many benzos can be indicated to produce a greater depression of the nervous system and keep that, but I believe that two, acting simultaneously, with alcohol, can be enough. You/your body just have to wait for Ami to do his job.

 

[PArazi]

A single Benzo is not sufficient for this method to be peaceful. You must cover both a short and long acting benzo in large quantities. Diazepam/Valium covers the mid to long-life one but you need a fast acting one on top. In this regard, Midazolam is the best (used in anesthesia as a first choice before Diazepam).

Yes. In a simple way I would say that the body's ability to force the heart is much greater than his tendency to preserve itself. This could explain why so many people suddenly die of heart attack, without experiencing the classic symptoms.

I'm a biologist and I've perfused hearts of sedated rats, I've seen cardiac patients die in hospitals. I am cardiac. No matter what you do, before he loses will be a lot of resistance

A little joke: how the heart medications work? They say "don't push too hard, mtf, don't push to hard"

Im not native speaker

 

[PArazi]

I had also considered this method. I have about four boxes. I get a box every month for Fibromyalgia - my doctor misdiagnosed me and I never bothered to tell him about this. I also have Diazepam and Zopiclone and some other meds. I never fully engaged in mechanics behind this Ami method as I became invested in SN. But all I keep reading (not sure what to believe now) is that SN is not as peaceful as people believe it to be. Not sure what to think. It's confusing. A few days ago I was like who cares - bring on the pain.. but I keep oscillating. I also considered Pheno, until I read that it can take up to three days to go - three days??? I thought that Amitriptyline was easy to get until I read the threads on this site. Seems not to be.

Do you believe that a non-benzo hypnotic, like Zopiclone/Eszopiclone, can be safe/indicated to induce a faster sleep in this method? Giving enough time for the Diazepam(500mg whitout Midazolam) to reach a safe level to keep the coma state?

 

[AnonymousS]

Yes, this is true, and not. Benzos indications is just to make the method more peaceful. But that depends what tutorial you have following.

Based on the drug half life (how long the drug acts), the information indicates two types of benzos. One(Midazolam, short half life) to act quickly and another one(Diazepam, long half life) to have a slow effect. One knocks u out faster and the other keep the unconsciousness(in a coma) for more time, which guarantees more safety for this method.

Midazolam has a more depressant effect on the nervous system, compared to others benzos. Also has a faster sedative effect and a good hypnotic effect(you don't see that coming). Despite this, staying in a coma is the most important thing, which is why a drug is needed to ensure that.

I don't know how many benzos can be indicated to produce a greater depression of the nervous system and keep that, but I believe that two, acting simultaneously, with alcohol, can be enough. You/your body just have to wait for Ami to do his job.

You still don't need any benzodiapines, if you have enough of the Amitriptyline it will knock you out, and cause enough respiratory depression so you stop breathing. You will not even be conscious.

 

[PArazi]

You still don't need any benzodiapines, if you have enough of the Amitriptyline it will knock you out, and cause enough respiratory depression so you stop breathing. You will not even be conscious.

I believe, and and this words comforts me. Ami has a high sedation(coma) power(when combined with alcohol, right?!). I don't have enough knowledge to discuss all this questions, but ctb is a delicade thing, I could consider 1% instead 99%. Some drugs have opposite effect when administered above the recommendation. About metabolism, they say, that each person can metabolizes the drug differently. I don't believe this applies as much to benzos, and maybe for other sedatives too. Any way, I stay with "500mg of a long-acting benzo" at least.

On the other hand, the new protocol says if you want it to be faster follow all the new steps.

 

[AnonymousS]

I believe, and and this words comforts me. Ami has a high sedation(coma) power(when combined with alcohol, right?!). I don't have enough knowledge to discuss all this questions, but ctb is a delicade thing, I could consider 1% instead 99%. Some drugs have opposite effect when administered above the recommendation. About metabolism, they say, that each person can metabolizes the drug differently. I don't believe this applies as much to benzos, and maybe for other sedatives too. Any way, I stay with "500mg of a long-acting benzo" at least.

On the other hand, the new protocol says if you want it to be faster follow all the new steps.

It's totally up to you, but the mechanism of action of this particular tricyclic is if you take enough, you will be in a deep sleep to unconscious, before death if you've taken enough.

 

[katagiri83]

On the other hand, the new protocol says if you want it to be faster follow all the new steps.

Hi @PArazi . What is the new protocol are you referring to? You mean from PPeH or the Ami Cocktail with the addition of cimetidine? Interested to know.

 

[PArazi]

Hi @PArazi . What is the new protocol are you referring to? You mean from PPeH or the Ami Cocktail with the addition of cimetidine? Interested to know.

Whit Cimetidine

 

[katagiri83]

Whit Cimetidine

That's what I thought, thanks.