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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,361
No, I believe in eternal nothingness after we die where we don't even have the awareness that we are dead. There is no evidence of any hell after this, and death is not something that should be feared, it's our only fate as humans to die anyway so there is no point to fearing it. But instead the thing to be afraid of is all of the very real suffering that exists in this world. Living beings can potentially experience torture to such a great extent and this is horrifying as it can happen in any moment. There are so many people in this world trapped in unbearable situations as well. Even if some people try to deny this fact with their delusional beliefs, existence is the hell and I believe death to be freedom from this world filled with endless pain.
 
makethepainstop

makethepainstop

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Sep 16, 2022
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Scared? Scared of hell? Not chance, I've been living in it for the last 60+ years!😭
 
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goofygoober

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Feb 7, 2023
2
Anyone else afraid of hell. I don't wanna go there after I ctb
this is honestly such a huge fear of mine, the only thing that makes me hesitant from ctb is there is a hell. my parents always guilt-tripped me into promising to God or Jesus that i wouldnt hurt myself anymore, yet i broke that promise so many times.. and i continue to do so. so it makes me worry that i'll get sent to a hell if there is one.
 
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downndone2

Living in misery
Jan 23, 2022
1,270
I'm afraid of hell but also afraid of just waking up in the same shit I'm living now. I want to wake back up from 5-25 years ago knowing exactly what I know now would be a reality. Otherwise, i suppose I'll take my chances. I just don't want to stay in this hell but do have to make sure my dogs are cared for once I do go.
 
LeavingInPeace

LeavingInPeace

New Member
Nov 13, 2020
2
Hell to me is having to reincarnate back here with the same lessons and a heavier karmic load from departing early this time. Ooof the karmic implications is what I'm most concerned of and to be honest it has been the primary reason I haven't already left. Hmmm is there a way around this reincarnation cycle?
 
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ThinkTechnical

ThinkTechnical

Permanently silenced
Feb 8, 2023
11
Religion is one of the most heavily studied and discussed topics of all that exist, and has been the subject of research for centuries, that has slowly lead to greater and greater amounts of the global population ceasing to believe in it.

Hell was created by a psuedo-consortium of men in the middle east over 2000 years ago, as was the rest of Christian religion. Men who realised that the most effective way to make people act in a moral way and be good people (as they defined it back then) is to make them believe that the repercussions for not doing so are greater than what they experience in life, and greater than what any human could ever inflict upon them. Deciding to CTB was considered morally bad in religious texts for two reasons, one of which is exceptionally relevant right now:

1. Nobody really knows what happens when someone dies. Dead men tell no tales, so nobody can tell us what happens in death. Encouraging people to die when we have no idea what happens to them just isn't a very morally good thing to do, and the only signs these men knew of about what might happen to people after they die is that they rot away underground, and never return. After that, everything was speculation. We have a slightly better estimate now due to modern science, but ultimately we still just don't know.​

2. People killing themselves en masse was a great risk, having large numbers of people was crucial to the way the old world worked even more than now. People are integral to society, and at the time more than ever, division of roles required having a lot of people. More people living their lives to it's conclusion would contribute to more farmers and peasants that could feed and provide for the people, while those better schooled or simply born into a "noble" family by chance could go on thinking about the wider questions in the world, be they scientific, or warmongering, or so on. Society can only advance to less people having to suffer at the hands of poverty if we have enough people to have an effective division of roles. Not only to mention, beyond that, the lay person could be trained into a soldier. Militaries of the time were very low tech, and relied greatly on either military strategy (which was lacking due to the precursors to rank either not existing on a wide scale or ranks being bought rather than earned by proving one's skill at being an officer of some kind, and therefore people that did have any strategic skills or critical decision making weren't necessarily going to be in a place of power where that skill could help the military), and it also relied most heavily on having huge numbers of soldiers.​

The more people that CTB due to the awful living conditions of the past, the less soldiers and farmers you have, and while the more moral men might not have even wanted to wage war, any nation would still have to defend against war to protect it's people, lest they get knocked over by the king next door that exploits their "greater morals".​

There is no irrefutable evidence that any modern religion is veritably true, and reflects reality. The only evidence that exists is either circumstantial, directly contradicted by the same religious texts that religion draws from, proven impossible by modern science (e.g. the Adam and Eve fable), or doesn't really make sense in the broader scheme of things - one supposed miracle that healed one person in one western country with modern healthcare while millions starve to death in another doesn't seem to make any sense as a work of a higher power.

There is no better time to believe that religion is not reality than before you think about trying to CTB. There is no hard evidence that hell exists, and you shouldn't be afraid of it because you've been told all your life that it does exist.


I'm not trying to attack people's beliefs, I'm trying to comfort you with the notion that there really isn't much reason to believe the horrible things you're fearing. I don't want anyone to CTB unnecessarily, but if you're going to anyway, you shouldn't do so with the fear of something that we have no modern evidence even exists.


I'm sorry if this sounds overly harsh or aggressive to anyone, I don't ever want to be like that. I'm paraphrasing a lot of this from other people and other sources. I just want to make as good a case as I can in one post for someone who's in fear.

I'm really genuinely sorry if this offends anyone that reads this. Please, please don't hate me for this post...​
 
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Volo vent

Volo vent

Member
Sep 20, 2021
62
Yes is a reason why im afraid of tcb
 
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wilted-rose

Member
Nov 16, 2022
6
If you are a Christian, then no. Hellfire does not exist. Just ceasing to exist. You will not be tormented nor torment another person.

If not, then I still want to believe that nothingness exists beyond death. A perfect opposite of living.
 

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