Sigh. I wasn't planning to respond here and I'm getting tired of it, but let's please stick to the facts.
Here's the story: A while ago, I created a topic asking where I could find the PPeH/A's email. @RainAndSadness
responded to this with a link to the PPeH, a link which indeed contained a valid e-mail. I didn't trust it back then though, because the PPeH also warns about fake PDF's spreading around the internet.
A few days ago, I saw a post by @orangepotato
. where he said he was being scammed. I asked him the scammer's email by PM, because I wanted to compare it to the one found in the PPeH posted by @RainAndSadness
. It turned out one letter was switched.
Last Saturday I noticed that in that resources section of the wiki, which I confused with the resources thread, that scammer's e-mail was there, uploaded to a Mega account (@RainAndSadness
used Google Drive in the resources thread). I immediately sent a PM to @RainAndSadness
to inform him. I didn't tell anyone I found this info, not even @orangepotato
. Unfortunately, @RainAndSadness
didn't come online anymore for about a day, so you didn't see this PM in time.
The next day, someone recommended in a topic to look for A's email in the resources section. I replied to not do this because it contained a scammer's email, which is when the drama started. During the discussion in that topic, someone was clearly following our conversation and he replaced it with the valid version. Then, @RainAndSadness
accused me of spreading fake news and lies because he/she uploaded the file itself, while at the same time @orangepotato
noticed this scammer's mail in the wiki as well. It is true @RainAndSadness
uploaded the correct file to a Google Drive account, but the Mega one is something different. There was some confusion between what "resources section" meant, for which I apologied, because there are 2 resources sections: there's a thread on this forum and a section in the wiki.
Between March 8 and today there were no edits in the suicide Wiki page. I've looked into this with other staff members. So your whole story about a false PPH doesn't make sense. You said last Saturday there was a link to a false PPH in the Wiki resources page but as I said, nobody changed anything in that article during the last 8 days and if there was a link to a false PPH last weekend, we could see that as all changes are logged. But there is none.
Which is what I confirmed to you by PM by looking at my browser's cache. The Wiki wasn't edited, the Mega account was in some way. I do not know how and will never to have hard proof of this, but either:
1) The Mega account's owner, whoever it may be, is part of the scam. Who owns this account anyway? Who added the link to the Wiki?
2) The Mega account was compromised
You accused me several times that I'm behind the mega.nz account, that according to your accusations, contained a fake PPH. I'm quite frankly tired of these unfounded accusations, my first priority in this forum was always the integrity of the resources and I helped out quite a bunch in the past and I'm not gonna let such silly smears damage my reputation, sorry. I've looked into the mega.nz account and it contains a valid PPH with the right email addresses. So once again, your story doesn't add up. According to mega.nz, nobody touched that mega folder for weeks.
Note that these accusations do not come from me. Instead, I'm pretty sure you're not behind any of this, because you sent me the valid link before and indeed posted this link in the resource thread (which is, again, different from the Wiki). You have asked me to clarify all of this via PM, which I immediately did in public when I noticed there was some misunderstanding about what "resources section" meant. I kindly asked you to edit your post accusing me of spreading fake news and lies, adding there is at least some reasonable doubt here, but you replied you will think about it and started to bring up other posts of me, asking me why I'm discouraging and scaring forum users to buy SN, which I'm not. I sent you an explanation about the posts you brought up, even sent you some proof I'm not part of a pro-life group, but I did not receive a reply on this.
Again, when I noticed there was a scammer's e-mail in the wiki resources section, the first thing I did was contact YOU and I didn't tell ANYONE until the next day. I'm pretty confident you have good intentions. I do not believe that you are a part of this scam at all. If I wanted to spread lies about you, which you are accusing me of, why on earth would I first contact you?
Furthermore, you claimed to have been scammed from a protonmail email back in February. But the PPH 2021 edition (even the fake one you showed me) doesn't contain a protonmail email, so your whole narrative is questionable at best. Whatever you looked at, it wasn't a 2021 PPH and none of your claims make any sense.
I cannot comment on what @orangepotato
did or who he ordered from, but why would be both be lying?
Anyway, I have noticed the link in the wiki has been changed to the one of your Google Drive's account as well. That's a good move. But despite this, I recommend all forum users to triple check e-mail addresses, just like you and @Marquis