Help Advice on jumping?

[helllcreator]

This is an odd question that I haven't really found asked. At least not at a cursory glance

So I've bounced between methods. I tried CO but due to unforseen events it failed. I love the idea of SN but due to work I can't be home to make sure no one else opens the delivery and if police show up asking questions about it then It's really not gonna go well. I've toyed with the idea of just using a blade and going to town on my non dominant wrist while in a hotel shower etc and bleeding out although I've seen mixed responses to this concept either issues with clotting and also SI not allowing you to. I could get viagra or other such drugs to thin bloods and raise blood pressure but I'm not super sure its a good option.

So I've sorta resigned myself that I'm probably gonna jump off of scammonden Bridge. Now I'm not gonna do this during the day as there's far to much traffic and people for it to affect. I'm planning late night early hours of the morning. Ideally the police etc have enough time to scrape me up and reopen the motorway for traffic without causing to much disruption to everyone else in the world.

However I also don't want what little traffic is travelling to witness it etc. So I'm thinking about making a call before I do leap, ringing 999 and asking them to close the motorway or something like that as I'm gonna jump and I don't want to either land on a car or traumatise motorists. However I'm concerned that it might just backfire and instead of them stopping traffic and such they will rush a unit to the top of the bridge to try and stop me. Advice?

Or can anyone recommend alternative locations that have had high success rates

 

[ipmanwc0]

can you really jump off this bridge it has fencing

 

[helllcreator]

can you really jump off this bridge it has fencing

Yea the fencing is high but small ladder or decent step would be an easy solution. Could probably climb it easily enough without either if you were determined. I've got one of the ladders that collapses in on itself so it's easy to transport.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

For sure they'll rush a unit to try and stop you. It depends whether you have the confidence that you can jump after they close the motorway. Are there anti-suicide barriers on this bridge?

It looks like you not the first to CTB from this bridge: https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news...ewed-call-safety-measures-scammonden-16254770

 

[ipmanwc0]

Yea the fencing is high but small ladder or decent step would be an easy solution. Could probably climb it easily enough without either if you were determined. I've got one of the ladders that collapses in on itself so it's easy to transport.

ig you could but it's 120 feet and the recommendation for above land jumps is 150 ft

 

[helllcreator]

For sure they'll rush a unit to try and stop you. It depends whether you have the confidence that you can jump after they close the motorway. Are there anti-suicide barriers on this bridge?

It looks like you not the first to CTB from this bridge: https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news...ewed-call-safety-measures-scammonden-16254770

Yea they did put up anti suicide barriers. But small ladder would be a simple solution. And tbh I don't know about if I still could. Honestly I don't think I've thought of it like that. I hope I would but in the moment I don't know. Might be a case of ring as a heads up give it 5/10 mins then jump or something maybe.

 

[SVEN]

I'm pretty confident that initially the Control Room will despatch a unit to check whether or not this is a hoax call prior to taking any further action.
It seems most unlikely to me that the Motorway will be closed simply on the basis of an unverified phone call.
I'd also believe that, in view of the shortage of Police resources, most especially for Roads Policing at night, it would be more likely that a National Highways resource would initially deploy.

 

[helllcreator]

I'm pretty confident that initially the Control Room will despatch a unit to check whether or not this is a hoax call prior to taking any further action.
It seems most unlikely to me that the Motorway will be closed simply on the basis of an unverified phone call.

Possibly. However they do have cameras on the bridge at one end. And I presumed they were to keep an eye for potential jumpers however I've stood up there for nearly an hour In the past watching the world go by and somewhat testing the fencing and never had the phone that's located up there next to the cameras ring. I wonder if the phone up there is for calling to notify of someone attempting to jump rather than what i thought, gonna do some digging on that thinking about it now as that would be a way to sorta confirm its genuine if I called of the phone that is up there...

 

[SVEN]

The cameras will be part of the general Motorway system and each individual camera isn't monitored 24/7. They only really come to attention if either someone 'phones in re a breakdown or road traffic incident. Or if someone happens to notice a build up or blockage in the traffic flow.
The 'phone will be a direct line to the National Highways control centre for that section of the Mway system.
I have worked in the past in Traffic Management and know how seldom a bank of monitors are being watched.

 

[helllcreator]

Possibly. However they do have cameras on the bridge at one end. And I presumed they were to keep an eye for potential jumpers however I've stood up there for nearly an hour In the past watching the world go by and somewhat testing the fencing and never had the phone that's located up there next to the cameras ring. I wonder if the phone up there is for calling to notify of someone attempting to jump rather than what i thought, gonna do some digging on that thinking about it now as that would be a way to sorta confirm its genuine if I called of the phone that is up there...

Okay so for anyone else looking into this.


The phone system is a dial in dial out service. The cameras have thermal imaging to detect if someone is leaning over the fencing and it will then notify the control room. Police can ring the phone to try and contact someone who is at risk or it can be used to call out to either police or samaritans using pre installed buttons I presume. I think I'm gonna do another trip up there and see if I can trigger the police to call and also have a look at the phone box to check it out.

The cameras will be part of the general Motorway system and each individual camera isn't monitored 24/7. They only really come to attention if either someone 'phones in re a breakdown or road traffic incident. Or if someone happens to notice a build up or blockage in the traffic flow.
The 'phone will be a direct line to the National Highways control centre for that section of the Mway system.
I have worked in the past in Traffic Management and know how seldom a bank of monitors are being watched.

Sorry you posted this as I was adding info about it. I found the proposed changes and how the system is supposed to work. Posted above this.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

Okay so for anyone else looking into this.


The phone system is a dial in dial out service. The cameras have thermal imaging to detect if someone is leaning over the fencing and it will then notify the control room. Police can ring the phone to try and contact someone who is at risk or it can be used to call out to either police or samaritans using pre installed buttons I presume. I think I'm gonna do another trip up there and see if I can trigger the police to call and also have a look at the phone box to check it out.

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Sorry you posted this as I was adding info about it. I found the proposed changes and how the system is supposed to work. Posted above this.

There's more info here: https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/50-years-scammonden-bridge-look-18971040.amp

And here:

£1m Scammonden Bridge safety boost is finally finished

Project on M62 motorway crossing nearing full completion after years of claims that upgrades would be too difficult

www.examinerlive.co.uk

 

[Lys_C15H25N3O_d3]

bridges near here are full of "Help-hotlines" and messages.. it creeps me out... .
also, these barriers you're talking about... almost make me lose the fear of jumping,, i mean, true and tested yeah?
I admit id have to be feeling really "courageous"

Otherwise , the lack of the courage would prevent doing, and since and neither alcohol nor any substances are to found and blamed. i want to go 100% clean at least no one will blame anything rather than my own will

 

[helllcreator]

There's more info here: https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/50-years-scammonden-bridge-look-18971040.amp

Yea i read this one as well. Honestly more annoyed that they only completed it all somewhat recently .
Just my luck decent spot and location and not to long ago they took steps to stop the issue. I can't find any mention of deaths since they put the new fencing up though so must be working. Guess most jumping incidents are more in the moment that pre planned properly.

 

[ButterToast]

For sure they'll rush a unit to try and stop you. It depends whether you have the confidence that you can jump after they close the motorway. Are there anti-suicide barriers on this bridge?

It looks like you not the first to CTB from this bridge: https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news...ewed-call-safety-measures-scammonden-16254770

I'm not sure about the authorities there, but I've been in places (like top of a building, cliff, bridge, high balconies) without much suspicion because... camera. I like taking photos, and when people see me in those high up places with a camera set and sling bag taking photos, they just think I'm taking photos and chilling (albeit it's still dangerous)

Idk if it's gonna work for everyone, but yeah, it is an idea

 

[dggtscccvfd]

Yea i read this one as well. Honestly more annoyed that they only completed it all somewhat recently .
Just my luck decent spot and location and not to long ago they took steps to stop the issue. I can't find any mention of deaths since they put the new fencing up though so must be working. Guess most jumping incidents are more in the moment that pre planned properly.

Indeed. I think only a small number of people come prepared with a fold up ladder. Still you'd really piss them off if you did that after all the money they've spent on it! Is this the only method you're considering?

 

[helllcreator]

Indeed. I think only a small number of people come prepared with a fold up ladder. Still you'd really piss them off if you did that after all the money they've spent on it! Is this the only method you're considering?

Aha yea I think it'll piss a few people off but at this point meh.

Yea it's kinda the one that keeps coming round in my head. I'd go with SN if I could source it reliably but if I was going down this route I would have anti sickness meds to take with it so I'd probably have to capsule it. Which wouldn't be an issue it's just getting the stuff.

Gas bag would be nice but it's mostly sourcing the gas and other parts needed for it to be somewhat 100%. Expensive to source and I wanted to ideally have a cheap solution so I could send money to someone special who needs it more than me. Whole story behind it but not the place.. Well it is I guess but maybe I'll do a post on everything if I find the time to write it all out cause its been a train wreak of a life.

 

[helllcreator]

So I am currently sat up at scammonden Bridge, been here a few times to sit and think and asses the possibility of jumping from this spot.

I potentially might jump in a little while however there are a few hurdles to over come. The bridge has had a rather large fence stuck up. But it's not very well attached and with a few tools you can pop a section out in probably 3 or 4 minutes.
See photos below, firstly each panel is held in by 4 bolts, 2 at the top and 2 at the bottom. Some are fairly rusted over now but at a glance they wouldn't take much to pop loose and off they come, they have tabs at the top and bottom that the bolts go through to hold it in place but it also looks like they wouldn't allow the panel to fall down into the roadway beneath luckily so you could take them out and you should only be able to move the metal backwards, the next thing securing it is a few cable ties, they are fairly big ones but 2 seconds of a cut or snip and they are done for. And presto panel is out leaving a nice big gap

Towards the middle right over the carriageways they have put netting in place at the bottom of the panels. Presumably to stop small rocks or stones from blowing out and falling into vehicles travelling below. You may have to remove additional bolts at the bottom here to free the panel. Some have cut outs so you wouldn't need to others have washers attaching the nets into the panels etc.


Now at the end of the bridge is where the cameras and phone box mentioned earlier in the post are located.






And on the otherside there is a single camera looking down the length of the bridge.





I do have a load of tools with me as I used them to repair my car and do other bits somewhat recently. Definitely have a socket and such that will fit the nuts as for the cable ties. I'm pretty sure I have a razor blade in my car from cutting so that will easily nip through them.
I'm gonna try avoid jumping onto the tarmac and I think I'm likely to aim for the grassy rocky area off to the side. But definitely not till later still working on suicide notes for some people. And also I'm waiting for it to quieten off both up here and down on the carriageway.

 

[Division Day]

It's not high enough to give a great chance, it's a lot of effort and you're going to aim for the bit that's less of a drop and might cushion the impact too. I don't think it's a good idea.

 

[helllcreator]

It's not high enough to give a great chance, it's a lot of effort and you're going to aim for the bit that's less of a drop and might cushion the impact too. I don't think it's a good idea.

I'd have thought it was definitely high enough. Don't think anyone has survived the fall but for jumping sites it's definitely one of the better and most successful sites.
I'm not super committed to hitting the grassed/Cliff area it depends how quiet it gets later. Aiming for solid tarmac is definitely a better option but given the height and that once the panel has been popped out I can just fall. There's nothing to climb over and such so aiming to fall head first is definitely way easier.

 

[Division Day]

There's a reason that people recommend higher and that's just the percentages. You could absolutely die instantly, or you could die in agony some time later or survive paralysed or brain damaged. It's not something most people want to just roll the dice on and hope they're in the 70% (or whatever the number is at this height) who die.

 

[losing hope]

Here's another photo of the fencing. https://www.crcivilengineering.co.uk/portfolio-item/scammonden-bridge/ To me it looks like it can be overcome with a small ladder. Especially at nighttime.

If it was me, I wouldn't call the police beforehand, just do it & aim for the motorway headfirst. If the 120ft drop doesn't get you, then maybe something akin to this will; https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/formula-one-man-dives-in-25025/

If it was me, I would also take something like SN before jumping. Just to be REALLY sure.

 

[helllcreator]

Here's another photo of the fencing. https://www.crcivilengineering.co.uk/portfolio-item/scammonden-bridge/ To me it looks like it can be overcome with a small ladder. Especially at nighttime.

If it was me, I wouldn't call the police beforehand, just do it & aim for the motorway headfirst. If the 120ft drop doesn't get you, then maybe something akin to this will; https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/formula-one-man-dives-in-25025/

If it was me, I would also take something like SN before jumping. Just to be REALLY sure.

Yea definitely just need a small ladder. Just to help get up a couple feet then it would be a lot easier to climb over the last little bit.

120ft drop has gotta be a damm good chance and I highly doubt there's any chance of surviving a headfirst. I think it's mostly my own guilt of jumping that I want to call police etc before hand to just have the ball rolling for clean up and removal so the motorway can be reopened faster and not inconvenience anyone for to long.

As for SN if I could get ahold of the stuff I would probably just go with that option anyways.

 

[losing hope]

120ft drop has gotta be a damm good chance and I highly doubt there's any chance of surviving a headfirst.

If I jump off the anti suicide barrier it will then be 128ft instead. INdeed from every account I've read about this site, no jumper has survived & the access is still pretty easy compared to golden gate or beachy head etc. Helps to combine this with another method or weaken oneself prior to jumping with a substance, aim head first & maybe have a pile of rocks in your pockets or backpack etc.

Heard this is another successful spot for jumping close to the aforementioned bridge which I might also consider due to its easy access. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/man-dies-falling-halifax-north-27375673 Also it has a Sarmatians sign on the bridge, which to my mind is a seal of approval that the bridge is good for ctb'ing. How ironic is that?