"Actually suicidal people don't tell anybody"

[doomer843]

Hearing people say that anyone who tries to get support about suicidal thoughts is faking because a "real suicidal person" wouldn't tell anyone and would just kill themselves makes me want to explode. In 99% of planned suicides they do, in fact, tell somebody but the type of person to say stuff like that would never hear about it because nobody wants support from an asshole and it only reinforces their beliefs. Just 1 more example of humans being worthless trash, this species needs to go extinct.

 

[steppingoff]

I always want the possibility of a live voice conversation on CTB. But it's nearly impossibly to find someone willing to talk without judgement

 

[Pluto]

Some people do talk about it, some don't.

The allegation of attention-seeking is pretty dangerous. It's basically daring someone to CTB just to prove that they really were suicidal.

 

[Adûnâi]

In 99% of planned suicides they do, in fact, tell somebody but the type of person to say stuff like that would never hear about it because nobody wants support from an asshole

This angle sounds amusing^^

I do despise this sentiment, it sounds like some weird, obnoxious truism. Why is a suicidal person forbidden from discussing it? Sure, some normies might use suicide as a blackmail technique, but not everyone is like that.

 

[steppingoff]

As I understand it. 60% of suicides are usually unexplainable. To me that means no one took the time to ask in life. And answers can't be found when they are dead

 

[Silent_cries]

Yeah, that's definitely bullshit. I talk openly about my suicidal thoughts from time to another, although less nowadays than before, and I've attempted many times.

 

[doomer843]

As I understand it. 60% of suicides are usually unexplainable. To me that means no one took the time to ask in life. And answers can't be found when they are dead

Maybe impulse suicides, the kind of thing that drives you to plan suicide is too much to bottle up.

 

[steppingoff]

Yeah, that's definitely bullshit. I talk openly about my suicidal thoughts from time to another, although less nowadays than before, and I've attempted many times.

You are very lucky to have that ability. I don't feel the same about my experience

 

[Silent_cries]

You are very lucky to have that ability. I don't feel the same about my experience

Maybe, but I very rarely talk about it much nowadays, only when I'm desperate enough rly. Most of the time people don't really want to hear it anyway, tbh :/

 

[FuneralCry]

Humans truly are the worst species to me, I find it such a tragedy how they even evolved in the first place. It's truly dreadful how cruel they are and how so many of them just create even more suffering.

 

[nner]

I don't know where the people get this affirmations.

 

[INTJme]

I've been told this before and labelled as attention-seeking when I was considering ctb the very first time. That was 12 years ago, and this time I'll just exit without any warning.

 

[willitpass]

These are the same people who constantly tell people to reach out if their suffering. Oh the irony.

 

[Ashu]

An ugly, stupid myth perpetuated by Gandhi in his autobiography, incidentally. Who knows how many people the great soul has killed that way.

 

[3/4Dead]

It's basically daring someone to CTB just to prove that they really were suicidal.

This is in part my reason for hesitating to back out if I'm honest. Nobody believes me? That's cool. Watch this.

 

[UKscotty]

I think I'm more of the camp that if we really wanted it we would keep quiet.

Why would I tell someone I want to CTB unless it was a cry for help?

I can never understand these people who complain the police or nurse sectioned them because they told them they were about to kill themselves.

 

[TransientEternal]

Why does it even matter anyways? What point are you trying to prove? That you don't care if someone is going through a hard time?

 

[SomewhatLoved]

I personally am refraining from speaking about it, especially to depth. I feel like if I tell someone that I'm suicidal and end up killing myself, they might feel guilty for "not doing enough" or "not stopping him".

I've mentioned to some people that I've felt suicidal at times, but that's about as deeply as I speak about it.

 

[Redleaf1992]

I think I'm more of the camp that if we really wanted it we would keep quiet.

Why would I tell someone I want to CTB unless it was a cry for help?

I can never understand these people who complain the police or nurse sectioned them because they told them they were about to kill themselves.

I sort of agree?

I think many people who are suicidal would prefer life in different circumstances other than their own. Therefore speaking out can be almost semiconscious fantasised desperation that they will suddenly get all the help they need and problems fixed…despite in there minds not really beleiving they can other the support to fix those problems. Therefore still suicidal.

I haven't told anyone about my intent, but could appreciate why someone would from the above.

 

[Gorgone]

Not to be too lighthearted but I feel like there's memes and stuff about people back in their preteen/teen years talking through/down suicidal moments with friends or even just older randos

Personally I don't talk to anyone who would actually know who I am. Last year after my failed attempt I was talking to a therapist about how I'm not going to go home and do it but I sure am thinking about it. I had just gotten out of a 1 week stay and I ended up back in for another week (dif facility). Beyond not wanting to be detained I also know no one else that actually knows who I am cares/everyone else has too much on their own plate to gad about my whining

 

[unabletocope]

I'd rather not but in my case it's all spilled out over the last 10 years and I'm the most embarrassing person alive, I put it into words where I can and where I can't I do my best to preserve myself

 

[slightoverlooked]

my therapist says that the suicide attempts that succeed the most r from ppl who dont talk about it with their friends or family irl. but she said it doesn't mean that ppl who talk about it dont do it.

 

[willitpass]

I think I'm more of the camp that if we really wanted it we would keep quiet.

Why would I tell someone I want to CTB unless it was a cry for help?

I can never understand these people who complain the police or nurse sectioned them because they told them they were about to kill themselves.

Living for years and years suicidal it is incredibly hard to handle those hard feels and never talk to anyone. Many people have an urge to feel heard, humans are social creatures after all. Telling police or healthcare professionals is probably naive if you don't want to be sectioned yes, but telling a friend or family member is human nature. I don't think it has any lack of intent behind it.

 

[asian.neet]

Hearing people say that anyone who tries to get support about suicidal thoughts is faking because a "real suicidal person" wouldn't tell anyone and would just kill themselves makes me want to explode. In 99% of planned suicides they do, in fact, tell somebody but the type of person to say stuff like that would never hear about it because nobody wants support from an asshole and it only reinforces their beliefs. Just 1 more example of humans being worthless trash, this species needs to go extinct.

 

[underthedatetree]

I'll tell you, SaSu. Telling anyone else was a mistake in my personal experience.

 

[Roadrunner]

Personally, the only place I'd discuss it is here, but that's me, everyone is and feels differently

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

Living for years and years suicidal it is incredibly hard to handle those hard feels and never talk to anyone. Many people have an urge to feel heard, humans are social creatures after all. Telling police or healthcare professionals is probably naive if you don't want to be sectioned yes, but telling a friend or family member is human nature. I don't think it has any lack of intent behind it.

I think this is why a lot of people try talking about it with others. They're not looking for "help" for their situation, they're looking for their pain to be soothed, even temporarily. When I had a date planned for my CTB, for example, I did reach out to one person because while I was waiting for that day to come, I was still suffering, and I wanted that little piece of human connection to help me bear it.

 

[J&L383]

If I had a terminal illness, then I could "safely" bring it up, because we have medical aid in dying in my US state. But other than a terminal illness it could get controversial (but somewhat understandable if you had something like multiple sclerosis). The criteria is broader in Canada and the BeNeLux countries. Sadly, the presumption remains that nobody wants to die unless they are seriously in pain or dying already, or crazy.

 

[WaitingAllMyLife]

Hearing people say that anyone who tries to get support about suicidal thoughts is faking because a "real suicidal person" wouldn't tell anyone and would just kill themselves makes me want to explode. In 99% of planned suicides they do, in fact, tell somebody but the type of person to say stuff like that would never hear about it because nobody wants support from an asshole and it only reinforces their beliefs. Just 1 more example of humans being worthless trash, this species needs to go extinct.

I remember seeing a show about suicide over decade ago. Several surviving friends/family members were so upset because they had no idea the person was struggling so they were blindsided and really hit hard. They felt like how could they not have known? How come the person who CTB didn't trust them enough or love them enough to share that they were struggling? That was when I decided I wasn't going to keep it a secret that as soon as my obligations here were fulfilled (I'm a caregiver for someone who is nearing the end of their life at this point), I was planning on leaving this planet. And it seems it has worked because everyone knows I struggle with not being happy with life so when I finally do leave, they will not only not be caught by surprise, but hopefully happy that I am finally at peace.

 

[LetMeBeSad]

My father used to say this to me. He would say I'm just seeking attention and to either shit or get off the pot. It was the most cruel thing he could say at those times when the thoughts were too much. Part of the reason I never sought help until late inyo adulthood.