About killing yourself with near 100 % certainty

[Arak]

couldntthinkofaname,

I read about that method. Cons: making a guillotine that actually works (knowledge, skills, specs), knowing how to use it effectively and actually committing the act without messing up. And it's a hell of a way to die. I presume there is consciousness for at least a few minutes, likely it will feel like hours. And if you 'sleep' (sleeping pills?) you'll wake up !

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

thats why id say go for the thin steelrope around your neck combined with a sufficient jumping height

its actually not that difficult to kill yourself if you really want it. you dont need a diploma in rocket science. maybe youre just not ready yet and should try living for a while

 

[Maravillosa]

dont overthink


thin steelrope + 4m+ drop = works like a guillotine and your head gets chopped off

That sounds like a rather gruesome way to go. Effective, to be sure, but I don't think I'd want to ctb with a steel rope.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

That sounds like a rather gruesome way to go. Effective, to be sure, but I don't think I'd want to ctb with a steel rope.

i think the hardest part is to convince yourself to jump

 

[Arak]

couldntthinkofaname,

If you are young and healthy a lot is possible. I could travel to one of the Southern states in the USA and buy a shotgun, commit the act ... countless variations. Jump into an active volcano in Japan.
No skyscrapers here, it's not New York. I'm just not sure if 60 meters would do it ... I don't trust myself to fall on the head first. Survival would be the worst, especially given my condition.

Oh, that other post 'thin steelrope + 4m+ drop = works like a guillotine and your head gets chopped off'. Even if you have a low body weight ? I can imagine it might work, and I can imagine the opposite ... And I can hardly just do that in public ... I'd need to find a location ...
Those minutes would likely feel like hours, if succesful.
<and oh, I can imagine tying something to the outside of my apartment, above a window, and surviving ... ouch ... (consequences!)>

I'm in the research stage. Would it really be better than sodium azide or sodium nitrate ?

I don't have to die today or this week ... getting seriously injured and surviving would be the worst. I'd likely get only one chance. Thsi is not about excuses. I even considered train suicide, outcome less certain than 100 %. Often, location is maybe not everything, but a lot.

 

[Insert a name]

The only guaranteed way is to have someone else kill you. Kind of surprised there isn't a market for this already on the dark web. Obviously it would be illegal for that person but still.

 

[overkill]

No N is Phenobarbital

N is Pentobarbital.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

 

[windingdown]

Full suspension sounds so violent and painful to me. Partial is much gentler, so I wouldn't see why it wouldn't be the preferred option in most cases. (I suspect some people prefer the quickness and finality of full.)

 

[Maravillosa]

Full suspension sounds so violent and painful to me. Partial is much gentler, so I wouldn't see why it wouldn't be the preferred option in most cases. (I suspect some people prefer the quickness and finality of full.)

I am one of those who prefer the finality of full suspension -- one cannot back out once one has started to dangle. If I were to regret it during my last seconds of consciousness, then I hope that God would consider that I am very very sorry for having ctb and have mercy upon my soul.

 

[blurr21]

Drowning???

 

[Arak]

I studied hanging and suspension. I recall that hanging is not recommended for people with a low body weight. Execution by hanging is something entirely different, if the drop (professional hangman) won't kill you other people may make sure you'll die in the end anyway.

I don't recall the difference between full and partial suspension. I wouldn't trust myself with feet on the ground, or something in reach to climb up to. What about near death convulsions or whatever ? So if those two conditions need to be met ... you still need to be sure the throat would be fully choked and you'd need a place where noone would find you (again densely populated area doesn't help). Travelling ... Or maybe renting a suitable place for suspension/hanging ... Cruel method. Time will appear to slow down under severe physiological stress. Minutes will feel like hours.

There were reasons why I'd rather avoid that one. For me, survival is not safe. It's bad enough already. The world can be cruel for people with low body weight ...
Drowning ? Considered. traveling required. No other people present. I'd need something very heavy to sink properly. At least 50 kg/120 lbs ? I wouldn't be able to carry that around. I don't trust myself to swim out far enough to eventually die by drowning. And bodies tend to float, do they not ? Also very cruel, even more so if not quick. Gruesome. I used to have a phobia for water.

'Hitler's method' (if the myth is correct) would seem appealing. Take a cyanide capsule, wait but not too long, shoot a bullet through the head.

 

[Arak]

Very messy: sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite ? I think it's the latter ! Some people are talking about sodium nitrate. Nitrate or nitrite, different !

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

how much do you weight? the table i posted literally includes people who weight 120lbs or less

if you fall a certain distance with a steel rope around your head there is literally no choice of survival

 

[Arak]

Reviving my opening thread ...

I just have a thing for brute force.
2) Blunt force trauma. Destruction of the braim stem or similar would be idea, something 100 %, quick, somewhat painless if possible.

Not exactly painless, but if you do it right suicide by crossbow could work. Arrow through the heart. To get that done, though ...
Some kind of weapon, projectile ? I can think of futuristic weapons, but that won't help. Explosives are rather hard to get (Europe).

Likely, the only vital organs to target are the heart and the brain.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I think it is stupid when you people say shotgun suicide isn´t 100% certainty of death which is BS. If you put a 12G shotgun barrel in your mouth loaded with buckshot and blow your brains out you are 100% going to die nobody will be able to scoop that up and save you lol. And when I say "blow your brains out" I mean it the brain literally blown out of the skull I can show pictures if people are in doubt. So this method is 100% sure way to go.

 

[Limbo]

Exit bag ? If I recall correctly, put something over your head to prevent accces to oxygen or use some gas like nitrous oxide (at best hard to get locally, in sufficient quantities). It seems unreliable. What would prevent it from sliding off, me removing it while not being dead yet near death moment autonomous nervous system kicking in ?

How about wear handcuffs fast before you pass out? Thats what Im doing and keep the keys very close in case. And the bag wont slide off if you use two elastic around the neck and two cord locks. Double everything up and you will exponentially decrease your chances of survival. Also use a strong bag.

 

[VanHeineken]

I like this thread. Arak, you have done a lot of research. Good work!

I am also doing research. So far my alternatives are either partial suspension hanging or fentanyl overdose.

I would prefer to die by fentanyl overdose but acquiring it is highly illegal in my country. I also live in W-Europe. I guess I'll end up with partial suspension hanging.

 

[Arak]

@TheGoodGuy , if your aim is proper, yes. But we do not have access to firearms here, at least not legally. I'm not part of the criminal underworld and even then, a shotgun would be hard ...

 

[TheGoodGuy]

@TheGoodGuy , if your aim is proper, yes. But we do not have access to firearms here, at least not legally. I'm not part of the criminal underworld and even then, a shotgun would be hard ...

Where are you from? You can obtain a shotgun for hunting in about any country.

 

[Arak]

@TheGoodGuy ,

I'm not sure about absolute impossibility ... but in Western Europe (not going to be specific), forget about it ? Hunting ? This isn't the USA. People play soccer or something ...

 

[Anon1337]

Jumping off an extremely tall building or bridge. (Landing on concrete or stone)

 

[Arak]

@Anon1337 , discussed that in other threads. Not as reliable as it may seem (variables), and it would requiring major travel. Not in good health.

 

[Anon1337]

@Anon1337 , discussed that in other threads. Not as reliable as it may seem (variables), and it would requiring major travel. Not in good health.

Jumping? If you jump from very high onto a hard surface, you're likely to die.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

@TheGoodGuy ,

I'm not sure about absolute impossibility ... but in Western Europe (not going to be specific), forget about it ? Hunting ? This isn't the USA. People play soccer or something ...

Well I live in Denmark and have a hunting permit actually Denmark has one of the hardest hunting tests and takes 6 month to complete the course. And you say Western Europe so I bet you that you can take classes to get a hunting license or maybe even join a gun club.

 

[Mljonzy]

To guaranteed death i think the best method is jumping from something very high it is probably the most effective method and reasonably quick but also very scary. Once you make that decision to jump it's over hard to do but gets the job done well.

 

[LetMeDiePlease]

*sigh* if a method for guaranteed death really exists, we wouldn't be here right now

 

[Arak]

@LetMeDiePlease ,

Accessibility is often the issue. Combining the right poisons, a lethal weapon (a nuke will do if nothing else). Most likely I'd have been gone if I had had access to a shotgun.

 

[Arak]

If earlier this year I would have had access to cyanide (locked down with registration and verification procedures) or if exsanguination would have been an option (the latter: what a shock after learning the truth, felt empty ) ...

Again, in Europe. Not UK. Densely populated.

Not in acute agony but in declining health. This is not human. Victim of medical errors, CNS damage overall very poor health. Not easy to die though. Lack of mobility, not so good motor function especially when exhausted.

I've been on this website for a while.
I don't really want to die, I want to live. It just doesn't seem an option. I'm not 'at peace' with dying.

Methods: hanging: I cannot see hanging as a peaceful way out. Partial suspension into a peaceful blackout ? Doing that with the idea 'I'm going to sleep now' ? Can't see it. I see hanging as a brutal act.

Drowning: logistics, I wouldn't be able to carry the weights.

Jumping: logistics. Phyiscal, cognitive etc. No local high buildings. I don't weigh much (osteoporosis) and a horizontal fall ... (numbers?) having your bones shattered, splinters of your skull penetrating your brain ... I'd die if noone would 'rescue' me. (that's the bitch, the humans) Odds would be better from a few hundred metres I guess.

Firearms: (almost) impossible to get.Especially heavy caliber.

Sodium nitrite: I'm not at peace, likely I won't be able to sedate the hell out of me, waiting for hours to die while suffering ... I don't trust myself with that. Sodium azide ? Don't remember the details but it may be quick or it may be slow. Can't use survival and additional CNS damage. Already have gastrointestinal issues.

Trains ? Survival would be horrific. Would need to travel to a spot ...

Nembutal ? CNS damage, tolerance, death by respiratory deprssion if it works, heart attack by Dilantin ? Absorption and distribution to brain si an issue. Objectively it would kill me, but if the duration of action is short (hours) and manage to survive ... Reduced brain metabolism also means reduced need for oxygen.

Suviving some of these methods with additional damage would be gruesome. I can't use further abuse by doctors.

Basically I'm looking for a quick way to finish myself at a moment when I feel strong. With the aid of N or god knows what. I've got a healthy distrust of myself.

 

[airixv]

I studied hanging and suspension. I recall that hanging is not recommended for people with a low body weight. Execution by hanging is something entirely different, if the drop (professional hangman) won't kill you other people may make sure you'll die in the end anyway.

I don't recall the difference between full and partial suspension. I wouldn't trust myself with feet on the ground, or something in reach to climb up to. What about near death convulsions or whatever ? So if those two conditions need to be met ... you still need to be sure the throat would be fully choked and you'd need a place where noone would find you (again densely populated area doesn't help). Travelling ... Or maybe renting a suitable place for suspension/hanging ... Cruel method. Time will appear to slow down under severe physiological stress. Minutes will feel like hours.

There were reasons why I'd rather avoid that one. For me, survival is not safe. It's bad enough already. The world can be cruel for people with low body weight ...
Drowning ? Considered. traveling required. No other people present. I'd need something very heavy to sink properly. At least 50 kg/120 lbs ? I wouldn't be able to carry that around. I don't trust myself to swim out far enough to eventually die by drowning. And bodies tend to float, do they not ? Also very cruel, even more so if not quick. Gruesome. I used to have a phobia for water.

'Hitler's method' (if the myth is correct) would seem appealing. Take a cyanide capsule, wait but not too long, shoot a bullet through the head.

Partial suspension is going to be my method of choice but I'm a petite girl with low body weight (100 lbs)...when you say that hanging isn't recommended for people with low body weight, why is that? And does that apply to both full and partial suspension?