15% chance? With SN

[Willthishelp?]

So I would like to finally find out what my chances are to ctb with SN.
When you google it it says 15 % of those who self poisoned

See pic and apparently IC has sold 1200 packages of SN and only 37 in total died in the last 5 years..as recent news article about arrest of K. L.

I am so screwed cause I need a way out and chances are so small with SN …or do you think it's more likely to be 50%?

 

[letsalllovelain]

It says that 88% needed medical treatment, meaning that 12% probably didnt take enough. The 15% death rate probably comes from those who took SN and then contacted medical help

 

[Aergia]

I mean, it depends on your regimen. The failures could easily be due to taking the wrong dosage, having low purity SN, vomiting it up, being found by someone before dying, or changing your mind at the last minute and calling emergency services. That's why it's important to address these issues when making a ctb plan.

Also note that the post says nitrites in general— not just SN. I'm no chemist but seeing as it's typically SN that's recommended, not just any nitrite, I think it's safe to assume it's the former that causes death most reliably.

There are plenty of posts made on here by members who would go on to use SN successfully. There are much fewer failures and the failures I have seen have been due to being found before death and taking low purity SN.

 

[アホペンギン]

So I would like to finally find out what my chances are to ctb with SN.
When you google it it says 15 % of those who self poisoned

See pic and apparently IC has sold 1200 packages of SN and only 37 in total died in the last 5 years..as recent news article about arrest of K. L.

I am so screwed cause I need a way out and chances are so small with SN …or do you think it's more likely to be 50%?

Even if that is correct (it isnt, people just called for medical help because either they were too much of a pussy to go through with the SN poisoning or they just called for medical help because it hurt a lot), SN is the method with the highest likelihood of death. It is the preferred method among all the other methods because in case of it not working, it won't leave any lasting damage on your body. Anything else would cause problems.

 

[hunterfla]

My guess is that 15% of those that received medical attention died. They aren't counting the ones that actually succeeded and were never "saved" or called EMS before dying.

 

[befree]

it won't leave any lasting damage on your body

This is wrong. SN can cause brain damage and any other permanent damage. We had this debate several times, last time last Tuesday:

Which methods do you think have the worst consequences if you fail?

I've been reading about all methods, but each seems to have a terrible potential outcome upon failure. What do you think?

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[アホペンギン]

This is wrong. SN can cause brain damage and any other permanent damage.

Really? Many people said it wouldn't cause any damage to the body.

 

[soonatpeace777888]

Really? Many people said it wouldn't cause any damage to the body.

Any method can lead to lasting brain damage because any method needs to shut down the brain to work. If the brain is starting to shut down but somehow you get saved before, you can get brain damage. This is true for ANY method.

 

[suicidaleeyore]

This worried me too. I assumed the rate was way higher due to how much it's talked about on here untill I confessed to my psychiatrist SN was one of my plans and she googled it cause she didn't know what it was and one of the things that came up was it only has a 15% death rate.

 

[befree]

Does anyone know of a failed SN case and its consequences?

...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Forever Sleep]

This worried me too. I assumed the rate was way higher due to how much it's talked about on here untill I confessed to my psychiatrist SN was one of my plans and she googled it cause she didn't know what it was and one of the things that came up was it only has a 15% death rate.

Do you know where she got this information from? Was it figures for accidental poisoning by SN? That has happened. Or was it actual suicide attempts? Or- a combination? People who accidentally poison themselves are DEFINITELY going to call for help.

Still seems odd to me though. I know it is something that can be reversed if the person is found in time and given medical treatment. That seems to be one reason it fails. In which case though- it's a strange way to report it. Someone about to jump off a bridge that is stopped COULD be classed as a failed attempt. If no one had been there- the jump could well have killed them. Is that a 'good' way to judge how effective that method is? Because it was stopped midway through? Same with hanging- if someone is cut down in time- does that mean hanging wouldn't have killed them? So- isn't effective? I would want to know WHY those 75% of cases failed. If it was at least 50% due to medical intervention- that paints a clear picture really- if you're sure you want to die- don't call for medical assistance and- make sure you aren't found before the SN has worked. Presumably- in at least some of those cases- it would have worked if no medical treatment was given.

All that said though- I want to make it clear- I'm not advocating for this method. I have no real idea anymore than anyone else. SN carries risks of failure- just like all methods. Personally speaking, I very much doubt the success rate is as low as 15%- IF the proper protocol is followed and IF the person isn't interupted and given an antidote. I'm not convinced it would be in the PPH (Peaceful Pill Handbook) if it only had a 15% success rate.

 

[lethargic]

I opened that webm article and got left confused. I don't know where google ripped that paragraph from because the article itself says your chances of survival depend on how much you took and how quickly you got help.

 

[Sapphire]

I opened that webm article and got left confused. I don't know where google ripped that paragraph from because the article itself says your chances of survival depend on how much you took and how quickly you got help.

This data is from poison control. It says that 88 percent of people who sought medical treatment for SN poisoning were in such a serious condition that they had to be hospitalized. 15 percent of people still died even after receiving the antidote.

Sodium Nitrite Suicide: Frightening Trend In Young Adults - Missouri Poison Center

Across the U.S. poison centers are receiving frightening numbers of reports on self-poisoning with sodium nitrite.

missouripoisoncenter.org

 

[DreamEnd]

I don't think it's really 15%. It has to be higher than that

 

[CH349]

Any method can lead to lasting brain damage because any method needs to shut down the brain to work. If the brain is starting to shut down but somehow you get saved before, you can get brain damage. This is true for ANY method.

But at that point where your brain starts to shut down the body should have absorbed enough SN (or whatever chemical)
so does that mean that if there is no outside intervention is SN wont do any harm to your body if you fail