you can't change anything.

[Insomniac]

you can't change your friends,your family, people

you can't change your colleagues, you boss, your workplace

you can't change your city, it's pollution, it's noise

you can't change your country, it's government, their corruption

you can't change nature, it's beauty, it's cruelty, it's destruction.

you can't change the world.

and you can't change yourself.

have a great day.

 

[jodes2]

Not easily I guess. It's possible to change quite a lot but it's effort and often stress, which can just get too much. It's a pain. Sorry you're suffering

 

[Rational man]

Poetic❤

 

[BlackWednesday]

You can change some of these things. But It would likely be swapping one problem for another

 

[Insomniac]

It would likely be swapping one problem for another

It's always like that. this is the definition of "solution".

 

[FuneralCry]

This is true. I just wish that it's not so difficult to finally be free from this world. Life is an terrible, unnecessary concept where everything is determined by chance with people forced into existences that they have limited control over. This is why the thought of non existence appeals to me so much and of course it's always preferable to never exist at all in every single way. There are no benefits to continuing to bring life here. But I do believe that suicide is the only real way to gain control over a life that we never asked for. We cannot really change much in our lives but we can choose to set ourselves free from it.

 

[Anonymus]

At least you can learn from all this. For me knowledge is the most powerful tool we have, even if at the end of the day, we have been forced to learn.

Today I don't feel very well, sorry... I have too poor arguments for so much experience that shows me the opposite of what some people feel, I don't know how to do better, sorry.

Let me say two things to encourage you:

• There are people who do not know how to find their value on their own, they need other people to make them see how important they really are.
• Each person has a fundamental task in this life, what can be the work of people who have suffered so much while they live? Well, obviously to help other people to overcome adversity (we are experts, do not doubt it).

The problem is that I am exhausted, but I understand that so much suffering and resignation can only serve to help others to move forward so that perhaps, in the distant future, those who come after us will not have to suffer any more.

//

Al menys pots aprendre de tot això. Per mi el coneixement és l'eina més poderosa que tenim, encara que al cap i a la fí ens hagin obliga't a aprendre.

Avuí no em trobo gaire bé, ho sento... tinc arguments massa pobres per a tanta experiéncia que em demostra el contrari del que alguns sentiu, no ho se fer pas millor, ho sento.

A veure si puc dir dues coses per animar-vos:

• Hi ha persones que no saben trobar el seu valor per si mateixes, necessiten d'altres persones que els hi facin veure quan importants són en realitat.
• Cada persona te assignada una tasca fonamental en aquesta vida, quina pot ser la tasca de persones que han patit tant mentres visquin? doncs evidentment ajudar d'altres persones a superar l'adversitat (en som experts, no ho dubteu pas).

El problema es que estic esgotat, pero entenc que tant de patiment i ressignació només pot servir per ajudar a d'altres a seguir endavant perquè potser, en un futur llunyà, els que vinguin després, no hagin de patir més.

 

[przeciwwymiotne]

you can't change your friends,your family, people

you can't change your colleagues, you boss, your workplace

you can't change your city, it's pollution, it's noise

you can't change your country, it's government, their corruption

you can't change nature, it's beauty, it's cruelty, it's destruction.

you can't change the world.

and you can't change yourself.

have a great day.

I don't agree, everybody has the capacity to change a lot of the stuff you mention. It's just about determination, effort and a correct approach. Sometimes it's about changing perspective.

 

[Insomniac]

It's just about determination, effort and a correct approach.

It's about fate.

 

[przeciwwymiotne]

It's about fate.

Those are the two approaches yes

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't agree, everybody has the capacity to change a lot of the stuff you mention. It's just about determination, effort and a correct approach. Sometimes it's about changing perspective.

Probably true... can we just add 'be bothered to' then?

'I can't be bothered to change all of the above'

That's not to say we're all lazy... Maybe we're just tired of trying and getting nowhere. Learned hopelessness maybe?

 

[Berlioz25]

It's a tricky thing. The idea that there is no free will comforts me greatly. My life was going alright and then became an absolute disaster. The idea that we aren't morally responsible, or that those who have hurt us aren't morally responsible can be a great relief from suffering. It can also be disturbing.

Even if we had free will, once we've done something, we cannot undo it, so for all intents and purposes we might as well have n free will at all. It certain feels like we're strapped in to the cinema of misery unable to close our eyes to the movie we often wish would just come to an end.

Galen Strawson (who is almost certainly borrowing an argument from antiquity) makes a good point about free will. Which is that we cannot control what we are- and what we are determines how we are at all subsequent stages of life, ergo we cannot be responsible for what and how we are (unless free will magically appears at some point in our development, but even then, it would be partially determined by what we are, so we can't in any way be wholly responsible for ourselves).

Somehow, when one is seeing one's life winding down and coming to an end, these thoughts become more pronounced and their importance increase.

 

[DiscT]

Asking this again, do we think human nature can ever change? People say the youth will change things but I am in class with these people (23 years old) and the norm seems to be keep your head down and do what you're told. If there is any change, it is gradual and 15 years down the line when you run the asylum for yourself.

 

[Walpurgisnacht]

Asking this again, do we think human nature can ever change?

Human nature is cruel and unforgiving, it can't be changed but you can choose to live outside your nature, to move past it and grow as a person.
I know I'm a bad person, but I can imitate good people's actions, and maybe that's enough.

 

[CyVir]

indeed, you literally can

 

[buzzkill]

I agree there. the world's so fucking cruel and you can't do anything about it. Makes me feel weak af.