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H2H2

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Is it a regular prison in America (39:05)?
It looks like a homeless shelter, I thought that a prison should full of cells.


Yes, its the same prison, different module if I remember correctly.The reporter is walking around the prison talking to different inmates with different sentences and crimes. The guy who looks like he is in a homeless shelter has had his death sentence conmuted to 150 years in prison. He is literally saying to the camera that he is going to die in there.

I dont know if thats how a regular prison in America looks like tbh. I have watched more documentaries of prisons, unfair judging, etc that I can remember ( different countries and jail systems too ). I used to watch them looking for info in helping me decide if I could cope that much longer with isolation. I remember being always very confused and surprised by the resilience and reasoning of some inmates. Thats why I posted the videos and gave that take maybe as another option to consider.

There is a lot of bias going on with those documentaries since the documentalist has received permission to film the prison and its inmates from the authority responsible of the very same prison he is filming. And there is a clear incentive for inmates to play along if they have been told or implied something beforehand.
 
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Sweet emotion

Sweet emotion

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Thanks everyone for your input I really appreciate it. I think everybody's point is valid. I see the futility of life, even without the threat of prison, and I respect anyone's choice to check out of this cruel world. I still may depending on what happens tomorrow. But for now since I'm getting so much support from my loved ones, I think I'll try to give it a chance. If only for their sake. Even if it's a long prison term, maybe I can make it. I think I'm spoiled in this world, back in the early days of civilization people used to live in worse conditions and survived, I just need to adapt to a much lower standard of living.
If happiness is an illusion and hope is a lie and I'm leaning towards yes they are, the people important to me seem to believe in them, so if it means I have to suffer for their sake for all these years I guess I'll do it. Or maybe I'll get in there and catch the bus after 6 months who knows lol.
I don't understand. Why are you going to prison? What crime did you commit? And I would never live for someone else. You are the only one who has to live your life. I think it's selfish for others to put pressure on someone to live just so they can see them sitting there.
 
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Wait, I'm sorry but this original post, I just don't understand it.i understand you want to die. So why is the thought of going to prison even in your head? Why would you rather go to prison then die? An I the only one asking myself this instead of going through all the little details? I don't even understand the question.
If you're confused it's because I'm confused. Completely. Before I got in I was sick of life and was pondering suicide. When I got out that first 4 days of hell in jail I had ptsd and was like an animal, desperate to end my life as quickly as possible to avoid any chance of falling back into that terror. A glimmer of that trickster hope saved me at the last minute and I decided to keep trying. A month later it happened all over again and I was ready to ctb 100%. I had it all planned out. I had everything I needed and was in a much better position to get it done. But also the ptsd was a little less that time, and my family and friend support was very strong. Still, I felt I could save everyone a lot of trouble. Then I read someone's post on here asking how to lessen the trauma his dad would feel after he ctb. As a dad myself I wrote a reply explaining how difficult it would be for his dad. At that point I realized how hard this would hit my mom. When I was in jail and she would ask me how I was doing I would lie and say I was fine when I was really not.
The argument for life being pointless, happiness an illusion, and hope a tool to enslave humanity rings very true to me. But I have this group of people that I love that all share the illusion. They want me to stay alive at any cost. So I'm going to do my best even though I think it's going to result in pointless suffering. F@#k it. There was another delay at court today so I've got another month till the next one.
 
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mnjkl

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Can I ask what was so bad about your first time in jail? Some people seem to do fine in jail, I guess it depends on the circumstances though.
 
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the world would look like such a different place if i made the rules, even though i believe in Right to Die anyway i'd especially enforce that people had a choice between death and a prison sentence. not everyone has an incentive to endure the latter.

also F u @ the people who said the OP should rot in jail if he did a violent crime, before knowing his story or whether he even regrets it or not. if thumbs-down is ever introduced i hope ur pro-suffering posts get it
 
Blackjack

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the world would look like such a different place if i made the rules, even though i believe in Right to Die anyway i'd especially enforce that people had a choice between death and a prison sentence. not everyone has an incentive to endure the latter.

also F u @ the people who said the OP should rot in jail if he did a violent crime, before knowing his story or whether he even regrets it or not. if thumbs-down is ever introduced i hope ur pro-suffering posts get it

So if he murdered someone but regrets it it's OK?
 
Soul

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I'm proud of our forum for not being judgemental. I reckon everyone on this thread has wondered at least in passing what sort of crime @ChristopherWalken is facing a prison sentence for, but it's not relevant to the question he's put before us, is it. He's not asking us for approval or absolution or pity; he's just asking which option we'd choose.
 
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it must seem to you like a window of opportunity while you have your freedom. People die in jail, it is usually hanging or by murder.
 
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