Method Would this be a good rope for full, or even partial suspension?

[Arihman]

Mainly asking this for full suspension, as a necktie is supposedly enough for partial suspension (but you never know). For the record, the rope is 5 m long, and 12 mm thick.

EDIT: it's a nylon rope.

Here's an image of it:

 

[squareminus1]

Mainly asking this for full suspension, as a necktie is supposedly enough for partial suspension (but you never know). For the record, the rope is 5 m long, and 12 mm thick. Here's an image of it:View attachment 119854

I think it more depends on what it's made off, like how much friction there will be in the knot. I'm not really sure I'm expert enough to comment on how well any specific material will work but I can confirm that it needs to be strong enough to hold ones weight and that rope looks strong from the photo.

 

[The Burning Fool]

What is it made of? Many types of fabric stretch, and I'd want none of that. I'd just buy a hemp rope.

I think it more depends on what it's made off, like how much friction there will be in the knot. I'm not really sure I'm expert enough to comment on how well any specific material will work but I can confirm that it needs to be strong enough to hold ones weight and that rope looks strong from the photo.

Soap with a bit of water, or other lubricants can be used to reduce friction though.

 

[Cloud Busting]

Cotton or bondage ropes are my recommendation.

I used a cotton rope during my attempt. Sturdy, durable, and pain was minimal because my neck was padded by the material. The only reason I failed is that I could barely reach the anchor point so the rope loosened as I did not tie it tightly enough to support my weight. I fell to the ground and hit my head on a tree instead. If I chose an anchor point I could have reached, I would be in pure peace.

 

[idonthaveanother]

Mainly asking this for full suspension, as a necktie is supposedly enough for partial suspension (but you never know). For the record, the rope is 5 m long, and 12 mm thick.

EDIT: it's a nylon rope.

Here's an image of it:View attachment 119854

I just went to a camping/outdoor store and bought static climbing rope for myself. The cheapest I was able to find was $150, but I mean, I need it to work, right?

 

[Arihman]

I just went to a camping/outdoor store and bought static climbing rope for myself. The cheapest I was able to find was $150, but I mean, I need it to work, right?

Something like this?

 

[idonthaveanother]

Something like this?

View attachment 119882

I can't differentiate between that and the earlier picture you posted. It's impossible to tell via a photo alone. I'm just stating what I did, for myself. Mine is a 11.4mm x 46m static rope from a company called Bluewater.

 

[ae300]

Any UIAA 107 or EN 1891 norm rope will do the job. You dont need rolls of 100 - 200 mtrs. Simply buy it by the meter in online shops or local sport/hardware shop. Normal price 3-4 $ or Euro / 3ft/meter. 15ft/5m is enough maybe 30ft/10m for super pretty hangman knots.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

What is it made of? Many types of fabric stretch, and I'd want none of that. I'd just buy a hemp rope.

Soap with a bit of water, or other lubricants can be used to reduce friction though.

Have you bought rope online, if so, what type of packaging it arrived in? I hope to get a rope without arousing suspicion.

 

[winterparty]

Or this one?Amazon product ASIN B017XHSBTE

 

[The Burning Fool]

Have you bought rope online, if so, what type of packaging it arrived in? I hope to get a rope without arousing suspicion.

I haven't, but the most discrete packaging can be expected from any reputable adult store.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Cotton or bondage ropes are my recommendation.

I used a cotton rope during my attempt. Sturdy, durable, and pain was minimal because my neck was padded by the material. The only reason I failed is that I could barely reach the anchor point so the rope loosened as I did not tie it tightly enough to support my weight. I fell to the ground and hit my head on a tree instead. If I chose an anchor point I could have reached, I would be in pure peace.

A cotton rope would be strong enough for full suspension? I weigh about 9 stone/60kg/112 pounds. Also what technique did you use to lose consciousness, did you drop your weight quickly into the noose straight down?

I haven't, but the most discrete packaging can be expected from any reputable adult store.

Thank you for reply.

 

[Cloud Busting]

A cotton rope would be strong enough for full suspension? I weigh about 9 stone/60kg/112 pounds. Also what technique did you use to lose consciousness, did you drop your weight quickly into the noose straight down?

Thank you for reply.

I was 9 stone 5 lbs/117 lbs (idk kg) and the rope I used was 12 mm thick and 25 feet tall. Honestly wish I got a shorter rope. That it was so long was kind of a pain in the ass and difficult to arrange the length of.

My attempt was full. I put the noose over my neck then kicked the step ladder. I lost consciousness very quickly, but I didn't time it. The rope didn't snap or break. I simply tied it too loosely to the branch, so the rope loosened and lowered me to the ground. The rope was still tied to the tree and the noose was still snug around my neck (I used a simple noose).

I've tried different ropes and I found cotton to be the most comfortable and fairly durable. It didn't cut my neck, which was nice. It bruised it though and my throat was sore for a day. I got it off Temu and it came in a packing envelope.

You could always say it's for an art project, like its a tassel for some pillows you have, or like decorations for your room, or as a handle to a tote bag or you're wrapping it around a chest or vase or whatever. If it's cotton of course.

Though I'm not an expert and clearly not competent as my attempt failed so take this as my personal experience rather than instructions. I can't promise a cotton rope wouldn't snap or break or that you'd succeed if you tried.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

I was 9 stone 5 lbs/117 lbs (idk kg) and the rope I used was 12 mm thick and 25 feet tall. Honestly wish I got a shorter rope. That it was so long was kind of a pain in the ass and difficult to arrange the length of.

My attempt was full. I put the noose over my neck then kicked the step ladder. I lost consciousness very quickly, but I didn't time it. The rope didn't snap or break. I simply tied it too loosely to the branch, so the rope loosened and lowered me to the ground. The rope was still tied to the tree and the noose was still snug around my neck (I used a simple noose).

I've tried different ropes and I found cotton to be the most comfortable and fairly durable. It didn't cut my neck, which was nice. It bruised it though and my throat was sore for a day. I got it off Temu and it came in a packing envelope.

You could always say it's for an art project, like its a tassel for some pillows you have, or like decorations for your room, or as a handle to a tote bag or you're wrapping it around a chest or vase or whatever. If it's cotton of course.

Though I'm not an expert and clearly not competent as my attempt failed so take this as my personal experience rather than instructions. I can't promise a cotton rope wouldn't snap or break or that you'd succeed if you tried.

Wow that's interesting, so when the rope partially loosened at the anchor point you essentially ended up in the partial suspension position or did it lower you completely lying on the ground so that the pressure eased on your neck enough to regain consciousness? That's what worries me about partial suspension, the involuntary movement putting me into a position that makes me regain consciousness 5 minutes into the process and waking me up with severe brain damage. Thanks a lot for your writing your experience and the valuable information.

 

[Cloud Busting]

Wow that's interesting, so when the rope partially loosened at the anchor point you essentially ended up in the partial suspension position or did it lower you completely lying on the ground so that the pressure eased on your neck enough to regain consciousness? That's what worries me about partial suspension, the involuntary movement putting me into a position that makes me regain consciousness 5 minutes into the process and waking me up with severe brain damage. Thanks a lot for your writing your experience and the valuable information.

I lied all the way down on the ground to the point of easing pressure, yes. I don't think I was above ground for long, as I acquired no brain, spinal cord, or neck damage. I know this because I went to the ER to get tests done. It was too light outside to attempt again as a car had pulled up already at a different location and I was worried someone would find me before I died and cut me down and I'd have permanent brain damage. If I knew I had no serious damage from the attempt I wouldn't have gone to the er. I'd of just gone to the park later at 3 am so I had more time to test anchor point heights so the ligature could be tied more tightly.

When I fell to the ground I hit my head on the tree trunk. I can't remember if my head was on the ground or perched against the tree. It took me a second to remember where I was and what had just happened. I got very lucky I had no lasting damage. I was so embarrassed I failed and my intent was to order the same rope and try again when I got discharged from the hospital. I'm trying to recover instead because I realized my reasoning for CTB at the time was faulty.

I don't have the guts to pull off partial. With full, there is no going back. As long as the anchor point is tall enough to keep you above ground and strong enough to support your weight, and the ligature is strong enough and tied securely enough to support your weight, and the noose is secure, you're good. I'm holding off for now, but if I attempt again full hanging is my method 100 %

Make sure the rope isn't too thin. I tried 8mm nylon 2 years ago and aborted the attempt because it was too slippery and I could tell it'd be painful. I haven't tried climbing rope but it looks painful. Hemp would likely cut. If your rope isn't soft, try lubricating/padding your neck (I've never tested this fyi). It seems the pain itself comes from how much the rope cuts your neck from my personal experience. Like it's not pain free, but the softer your material the more comfortable I think.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

I lied all the way down on the ground to the point of easing pressure, yes. I don't think I was above ground for long, as I acquired no brain, spinal cord, or neck damage. I know this because I went to the ER to get tests done. It was too light outside to attempt again as a car had pulled up already at a different location and I was worried someone would find me before I died and cut me down and I'd have permanent brain damage. If I knew I had no serious damage from the attempt I wouldn't have gone to the er. I'd of just gone to the park later at 3 am so I had more time to test anchor point heights so the ligature could be tied more tightly.

When I fell to the ground I hit my head on the tree trunk. I can't remember if my head was on the ground or perched against the tree. It took me a second to remember where I was and what had just happened. I got very lucky I had no lasting damage. I was so embarrassed I failed and my intent was to order the same rope and try again when I got discharged from the hospital. I'm trying to recover instead because I realized my reasoning for CTB at the time was faulty.

I don't have the guts to pull off partial. With full, there is no going back. As long as the anchor point is tall enough to keep you above ground and strong enough to support your weight, and the ligature is strong enough and tied securely enough to support your weight, and the noose is secure, you're good. I'm holding off for now, but if I attempt again full hanging is my method 100 %

Make sure the rope isn't too thin. I tried 8mm nylon 2 years ago and aborted the attempt because it was too slippery and I could tell it'd be painful. I haven't tried climbing rope but it looks painful. Hemp would likely cut. If your rope isn't soft, try lubricating/padding your neck (I've never tested this fyi). It seems the pain itself comes from how much the rope cuts your neck from my personal experience. Like it's not pain free, but the softer your material the more comfortable I think.

Luckily you weren't suspended for an even longer time otherwise that would have been a highly regrettable situation. I bet if you attempted again you'll make sure to not make that same mistake again lol. Yeah I've heard nylon rope is too stretchy and slipppery for full suspension so I'm not going with it. I'll probably go with cotton, jute or hemp or something and use soap to lessen the friction somewhat. Thanks again for taking the time to write all the information you'd provided, it's much appreciated and I wish you all the best in whatever you decide to do. Thank you.

 

[Cloud Busting]

Luckily you weren't suspended for an even longer time otherwise that would have been a highly regrettable situation. I bet if you attempted again you'll make sure to not make that same mistake again lol. Yeah I've heard nylon rope is too stretchy and slipppery for full suspension so I'm not going with it. I'll probably go with cotton, jute or hemp or something and use soap to lessen the friction somewhat. Thanks again for taking the time to write all the information you'd provided, it's much appreciated and I wish you all the best in whatever you decide to do. Thank you.

Remember that all information I provided is based on my personal experience. It's not factual, technical knowledge (obviously as I failed and got lucky I didn't end up with permanent damage), nor is my account meant to be used as instructions or a guide. It's just my personal story.

I didn't use soap, and everything was fine noose wise, but again that was my experience. I don't know if soap was needed to ease friction or not.

Personally I am focusing on recovery right now. I was pissed at first but I think it would of been a mistake if I succeeded honestly l. I wish you peace in whatever you choose as well.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Remember that all information I provided is based on my personal experience. It's not factual, technical knowledge (obviously as I failed and got lucky I didn't end up with permanent damage), nor is my account meant to be used as instructions or a guide. It's just my personal story.

I didn't use soap, and everything was fine noose wise, but again that was my experience. I don't know if soap was needed to ease friction or not.

Personally I am focusing on recovery right now. I was pissed at first but I think it would of been a mistake if I succeeded honestly l. I wish you peace in whatever you choose as well.

Of course. There's so many variables to take into consideration that one persons successful method/setup might not work for someone else. Thank you again. All the best.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Remember that all information I provided is based on my personal experience. It's not factual, technical knowledge (obviously as I failed and got lucky I didn't end up with permanent damage), nor is my account meant to be used as instructions or a guide. It's just my personal story.

I didn't use soap, and everything was fine noose wise, but again that was my experience. I don't know if soap was needed to ease friction or not.

Personally I am focusing on recovery right now. I was pissed at first but I think it would of been a mistake if I succeeded honestly l. I wish you peace in whatever you choose as well.

Hi. Apologies for the added question, but did you takes any medicines or alcohol before your attempt? And in what way did you drop your weight into the noose, was it quickly drop straight down?

 

[dishwashingtoucan]

I've heard rope gets weaker with knots, but how are we supposed to hang ourselves without tying a knot in the rope? is that just an L we have to take?