Worried about pain with sn

[ordaysun]

As long as I follow the protocol with benzos/ibuprofen/propanolol, will SN be relatively pain free and comfortable? I read on another thread that one user quoted it as 7/10 for comfort/pain, but I don't know how they arrived at that number.

I know SN works by depriving the brain of oxygen. Will it feel like suffocating?

 

[befree]

Actually I didn't want to be the first to respond. According to two video live streams, I would say 50/50 chance. One person had seizures, nausea and abdominal pain before he became unconscious. The other person had a horrible death struggle that lasted a long time. Both were members of this forum. Both followed exactly Stan´s guide. SN works through the blood stream in every cell of the body. This means that not only organ damage but also permanent brain damage is possible. Fans of this method will not like me writing this.

Does anyone know of a failed SN case and its consequences?

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sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Obliviate]

Check out the SN podcasts from the person who created the method. It's in my post

 

[ChronoTimePulse]

My only worries on my next attempt would be puking...if u read my post I was doing a test I mixed more than 50g SN in a half cup water and took only a sip, not long later puking 3 times in a row

Check out the SN podcasts from the person who created the method. It's in my post

Share the link please

 

[Forever Sleep]

Actually I didn't want to be the first to respond. According to two video live streams, I would say 50/50 chance. One person had seizures, nausea and abdominal pain before he became unconscious. The other person had a horrible death struggle that lasted a long time. Both were members of this forum. Both followed exactly Stan´s guide. SN works through the blood stream in every cell of the body. This means that not only organ damage but also permanent brain damage is possible. Fans of this method will not like me writing this.

Does anyone know of a failed SN case and its consequences?

...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Do you suppose the brain damage concern is more if the person is stopped and revived at a later stage of taking SN? By the time brain damage has set in- wouldn't there be enough in the system to kill the person IF they aren't interupted? I honestly don't know and obviously find it troubling- because it likely would be my method. I wonder if anyone knows for sure how much causes brain damage and how much is eventually lethal- left unchecked.

If that is the case though- is that concern not applicable to all methods? Hanging, innert gas- whatever? Presumably, anything which doesn't cause instant death kills gradually- in which case- the person COULD potentially be revived once the brain had started to be affected?

It does definitely trouble me though- the varying reported experiences with SN.

 

[CW36]

Sourcing it and everything else you need, that's hard enough for some people. It can go either way, depending on many factors. It might seem more peaceful than some well known methods, but is it quicker? Is it more involved? Is it more likely to succeed? Is it relatively painless? I'd be backing another horse personally.

 

[Aergia]

My only worries on my next attempt would be puking...if u read my post I was doing a test I mixed more than 50g SN in a half cup water and took only a sip, not long later puking 3 times in a row

Share the link please

How much do you weigh? 50g sounds like twice the recommended dosage for most people. A dosage that's too high can definitely lead to vomiting.

 

[Lavender Dreams]

Mine wasn't painful, only uncomfortable, although I do have a higher pain tolerance. Experienced some heart ache, vomiting, ear ringing and being freezing cold. Breathing felt difficult too. It was more like passing out but very gradually. The reports don't appear to be consistent though, so there is no way of predicting how that will go for each individual person.

 

[Justnotme]

Tell me, please, how did you survive? And after what time did they find you/ did they call an ambulance for you?
And more... Tell me, please, did your heart hurt before taking sodium nitrite?
Have you lost consciousness?

 

[befree]

Do you suppose the brain damage concern is more if the person is stopped and revived at a later stage of taking SN?

No, this is not what I said. Brain damage can happen at any time after SN ingestion.

By the time brain damage has set in- wouldn't there be enough in the system to kill the person IF they aren't interupted?

Probably yes. This depends on the individual case and how much SN has already been metabolized.

I wonder if anyone knows for sure how much causes brain damage and how much is eventually lethal- left unchecked.

If a person has survived with permanent brain damage he won´t be able to tell us. What I am saying is that there is a general risk of brain damage.

Presumably, anything which doesn't cause instant death kills gradually- in which case- the person COULD potentially be revived once the brain had started to be affected?

These are two different things. Even a person who has brain damage can possibly be revived.

 

[jessisme]

I'm anticipating rapid heart beat, intense headache and abdominal pains, shortness of breath, diarrhea and vomiting. This all for hours and dying may take place or not. I can't put faith in unconsciousness being achieved within a half hour because who knows if that will happen. Dying is hard work and it's unpleasant. How anyone can expect the process of one's body shutting down slowly over a matter of hours to be easy, comfortable and pain free? I am terrified of the discomfort, pain and suffering that might come with SN poisoning. I have the SN but am afraid to use it because of the suffering and the hospital bills that I will receive if I fail. It's just too uncertain for me. I cannot summon the courage to try it. But I am a pessimist who tends to see the negative/fearful in things anyway. Just wanted to share one/my perspective. xo, j

 

[flyaway]

Pain while using the SN method is also something I fear. But I still believe that if you take a lot of benzos (like 500 mg of Diazepam) as recommended in the latest PPeH versions and do it in a suitable location where you won't be found, you'll lose consciousness fast so that the discomfort you are going to feel will be minimal and/or for a very short time. This is only my assumption though as we could never be completely sure I guess.

 

[befree]

But there we have the next risk. A Diazepam overdose can cause permanent brain damage and permanent disability due to hypoxia.

 

[flyaway]

Yes but won't this scenario happen only if you survive? I doubt that if your SN is pure enough and you have all the other stuff necessary you could come out alive unless you are found too soon of course.

 

[Forever Sleep]

These are two different things. Even a person who has brain damage can possibly be revived.

What I meant was- asides from something instant- like a gunshot that hits the brainstem- don't ALL methods that kill gradually have the potential to leave the person with brain damage IF they are found and 'saved' in time? OR- if something goes wrong and they don't receive the full dose to kill them? This could Include other methods like hanging or inert gas- if they are interupted. If the rope breaks. If the gas runs out before they are dead. This isn't just a risk posed by SN- although- perhaps it is more likey with SN due to maybe vomiting while unconscious.

Still- it would indeed be foolish to think you could be found at any time after taking SN and be just fine- considering what it does. It has risks- just like all methods.

 

[Justnotme]

But there we have the next risk. A Diazepam overdose can cause permanent brain damage and permanent disability due to hypoxia.

What method do you recommend, please tell me?

 

[befree]

Yes but won't this scenario happen only if you survive? I doubt that if your SN is pure enough and you have all the other stuff necessary you could come out alive unless you are found too soon of course.

Of course. When you are dead, it doesn't matter if you have permanent damage.

What method do you recommend, please tell me?

I would never recommend a method. For me, SN doesn´t seem reliable and peaceful enough. I would tend to use inert gas (SCUBA or SCBA).

What I meant was- asides from something instant- like a gunshot that hits the brainstem- don't ALL methods that kill gradually have the potential to leave the person with brain damage IF they are found and 'saved' in time? OR- if something goes wrong and they don't receive the full dose to kill them? This could Include other methods like hanging or inert gas- if they are interupted. If the rope breaks. If the gas runs out before they are dead. This isn't just a risk posed by SN- although- perhaps it is more likey with SN due to maybe vomiting while unconscious.

Yes, absolutely.

 

[flyaway]

Every method carries risks. It really depends on your individual circumstances if you are willing to take the risk and withstand some degree of discomfort during the process. SN may not be a perfect method but in my case it seems the best I'm able to get and perform it without messing things up (unless I somehow manage to get hold of N which seems just like a dream unfortunately).

 

[Unknown21]

Check out the SN podcasts from the person who created the method. It's in my post

Share the link, please.

 

[maarijkhan]

Yes but won't this scenario happen only if you survive? I doubt that if your SN is pure enough and you have all the other stuff necessary you could come out alive unless you are found too soon of course.

How soon is too soon ?

 

[flyaway]

I guess less than 5 hours. Death should occur much faster with this method but anything under that could in my opinion increase the likelihood of failing.

 

[Willthishelp?]

Actually I didn't want to be the first to respond. According to two video live streams, I would say 50/50 chance. One person had seizures, nausea and abdominal pain before he became unconscious. The other person had a horrible death struggle that lasted a long time. Both were members of this forum. Both followed exactly Stan´s guide. SN works through the blood stream in every cell of the body. This means that not only organ damage but also permanent brain damage is possible. Fans of this method will not like me writing this.

Does anyone know of a failed SN case and its consequences?

...

sanctioned-suicide.net

How long was the horrible death struggle? Is there a way to see the videos from the stream still?

 

[CW36]

SN hasn't got the stats to say definitely if it's any good or not (success rates). It takes time to get everything together, plan and start the process. It takes longer to die than many other methods and looks like it does involve a fair bit of pain for some from what I've seen. It's not the worst method, I can assure you of that, but clearly has several drawbacks.

 

[eashanm]

According to two video live streams,

Do you have link to those videos?

 

[Justnotme]

Actually I didn't want to be the first to respond. According to two video live streams, I would say 50/50 chance. One person had seizures, nausea and abdominal pain before he became unconscious. The other person had a horrible death struggle that lasted a long time. Both were members of this forum. Both followed exactly Stan´s guide. SN works through the blood stream in every cell of the body. This means that not only organ damage but also permanent brain damage is possible. Fans of this method will not like me writing this.

Does anyone know of a failed SN case and its consequences?

...

sanctioned-suicide.net

What do you mean, a goat saying "terrible struggle" with death, please tell me?