Worried about N not working

[PerpetualPain]

I am experiencing unbearable emotional and physical pain due to my incurable illness. I also have very strong SI and am scared of any method that will hurt or take some time to work (SN). I really think N is the only thing I can bring myself to do to escape this neverending misery.

However I have a worry that N might not work. I would be going with 2 bottles which is approx 13 grams. This is plenty enough for the vast majority of people. The issue is that my GABAa receptors do not function correctly. I know this because it is a symptom of Post Finasteride Sydrome (PSSD and PAS share this issue) and benzos and alcohol do not work on me like they did prior to developing this illness. I take 2.5 grams of lorazapam per day and it barely does anything that I am aware of. I wonder if the worst case scenario would just be prolonged coma phase (24h) which is ok because I can get a hotel or is there a chance that N might not even kill me and I will wake up? Also if I wake up from N will I have any potential neurological or physical damage? I am really stressing over this as I know I can't hang on much longer.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

N failure won't cause neurological or physical damage. N is neuro protective. I'm not sure about it working on you though

 

[PerpetualPain]

I'm sure this had been answered before so sorry for asking but with N why is important to not be found. Medics have an antidote to reverse N once its ben metabolized?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

There's no antidote. Enough time to not be found is crucial because they can still save you as long as you're still breathing

 

[healthrecovery]

Basically they hook you up on life support and you survive ? How long will the coma last?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Basically they hook you up on life support and you survive ? How long will the coma last?

Every person will react differently based on their age, health, weight, current drugs they are using, etc. There is no clear cut answer

 

[PerpetualPain]

This is stressing me out to the max and I literally have zero stress tolerance. I just want to be sure it will be effective or if it's not then to atleast know I will not be further damaged.

 

[supermario]

This is stressing me out to the max and I literally have zero stress tolerance. I just want to be sure it will be effective or if it's not then to atleast know I will not be further damaged.

I don't have access to N, but if I did, what I'd do is take it in the woods. That way if I'm in a coma, I will still die from dehydration and the elements after a few days.

 

[PerpetualPain]

I don't have access to N, but if I did, what I'd do is take it in the woods. That way if I'm in a coma, I will still die from dehydration and the elements after a few days.

This is a good idea other than the fact that I would be reported missing and have a search party for me (which I wouldn't want to use police resources for) and also put my parents through additional misery. There just arent any good options it seems.
I am wondering if there is a way to test for your tolerance of N to figure out if it is likely that 2 bottles will be a lethal dose. Something like taking 2ml and seeing if it has a sedating effect? I am really scared and don't want to resort to SN or Hanging

 

[supermario]

This is a good idea other than the fact that I would be reported missing and have a search party for me (which I wouldn't want to use police resources for) and also put my parents through additional misery. There just arent any good options it seems.

Hmm that's tough then. The goal then it seems is for you to try to give yourself as big of a window of not being contacted by family or friends as possible. Maybe make up a story that you're going somewhere for a few days, like hiking/ up in the mountains.

 

[PerpetualPain]

Hmm that's tough then. The goal then it seems is for you to try to give yourself as big of a window of not being contacted by family or friends as possible. Maybe make up a story that you're going somewhere for a few days, like hiking/ up in the mountains.

I want to use a hotel. This would be good advice if my family didn't know I was highly suicidal. Thanks for the responses.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

This is a good idea other than the fact that I would be reported missing and have a search party for me (which I wouldn't want to use police resources for) and also put my parents through additional misery. There just arent any good options it seems.
I am wondering if there is a way to test for your tolerance of N to figure out if it is likely that 2 bottles will be a lethal dose. Something like taking 2ml and seeing if it has a sedating effect? I am really scared and don't want to resort to SN or Hanging

Test 2ml and see if you feel any effects from it. If you do, then you'll know it works

 

[eternalmelancholy]

I want to use a hotel. This would be good advice if my family didn't know I was highly suicidal. Thanks for the responses.

A hotel room is probably the best bet for SN and N. Nice quiet and private location. Family doesn't have to get involved. Is there a way to decrease your benzo intake in preparation for N? It can't hurt to try.

 

[PerpetualPain]

A hotel room is probably the best bet for SN and N. Nice quiet and private location. Family doesn't have to get involved. Is there a way to decrease your benzo intake in preparation for N? It can't hurt to try.

Benzo withdrawal can be really hellish and with my current state I don't think I could physically or mentally take any more. I have psychotic breakdowns every day already. Parents are on their last legs before they call the cops on me. 1 year ago I was happy, independant and healthy. Finasteride completely destroyed me

Test 2ml and see if you feel any effects from it. If you do, then you'll know it works

Do you know what people's experience is with taking 2ml? Do they just get really sedated or is it supposed to make you pass out?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Do you know what people's experience is with taking 2ml? Do they just get really sedated or is it supposed to make you pass out?

I haven't done it myself. It seems to be the standard amount that people suggest here for a sleep test. But from what I've read, some fall asleep, and some feel sedated and super relaxed

 

[PerpetualPain]

I haven't done it myself. It seems to be the standard amount that people suggest here for a sleep test. But from what I've read, some fall asleep, and some feel sedated and super relaxed

Ok and I will need a needle to extract I suppose.

 

[CiproKilledMe]

I did a 'sleep test' because just like you, I was afraid N wouldn't work on me for one reason or another. Result of my sleep test: It knocked me on my ass! If I recall correctly I only used .5ml because I was afraid of overdoing it and potentially making things worse for myself, but that .5ml was enough to knock me out for a few hours and then when I 'woke up' my body was almost paralyzed for a while...I could barely force myself to move. That pretty much reassured me that the stuff I have is legit and that it's gonna work! I would start with less than 2ml just to be safe, but that's just me. You can always take more if you're not feeling anything but you can't undo taking too much.

BTW I'm extremely sorry to read what happened to you. I too am a victim of an FDA-approved Rx drug (Cipro) and I too live with crippling, agonizing pain literally every single minute of every single day. If you ever just need to talk to another person who's living a tortured existence not too different from your own, please feel free to message me.

 

[healthrecovery]

Jezus alot of people get destroyed by meds..me got invega sustenna injections and it absolutely ruined my life

 

[dospi1]

Maybe if tou are afriad of N failing due to your condition ot could be better to. Use SN, it works in a more .physical way extracting oxugen from the body cmaking you die out of hypoxia, it wouñd be a bit less peacefull but i think safer for u. Im sorry to hear what toou are going throug :(

 

[PerpetualPain]

Maybe if tou are afriad of N failing due to your condition ot could be better to. Use SN, it works in a more .physical way extracting oxugen from the body cmaking you die out of hypoxia, it wouñd be a bit less peacefull but i think safer for u. Im sorry to hear what toou are going throug :(

Thank you for your response. I really don't like the idea of SN taking 10+ mins to pass out. I think my SI and anxiety would make me try to abort by forcing myself to throw up and call 911 or a family member. I am really afraid of that. I want to be knocked out quick. I actually did see people with a condition similar to mine use SN for this reason when I searched this forums history. What a fate I somehow fell into....

 

[dospi1]

Thank you for your response. I really don't like the idea of SN taking 10+ mins to pass out. I think my SI and anxiety would make me try to abort by forcing myself to throw up and call 911 or a family member. I am really afraid of that. I want to be knocked out quick. I actually did see people with a condition similar to mine use SN for this reason when I searched this forums history. What a fate I somehow fell into....

Maybe you could try mixing the 2 use sn first, then use your n so you can be unconcius faster, drinking 2 just asa a safety mesure its very unlikely 2 bottles of N wont be enough

 

[hermes]

I did a 'sleep test' because just like you, I was afraid N wouldn't work on me for one reason or another. Result of my sleep test: It knocked me on my ass! If I recall correctly I only used .5ml because I was afraid of overdoing it and potentially making things worse for myself, but that .5ml was enough to knock me out for a few hours and then when I 'woke up' my body was almost paralyzed for a while...I could barely force myself to move. That pretty much reassured me that the stuff I have is legit and that it's gonna work! I would start with less than 2ml just to be safe, but that's just me. You can always take more if you're not feeling anything but you can't undo taking too much.

BTW I'm extremely sorry to read what happened to you. I too am a victim of an FDA-approved Rx drug (Cipro) and I too live with crippling, agonizing pain literally every single minute of every single day. If you ever just need to talk to another person who's living a tortured existence not too different from your own, please feel free to message me.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

 

[RN12]

Benzo withdrawal can be really hellish and with my current state I don't think I could physically or mentally take any more. I have psychotic breakdowns every day already. Parents are on their last legs before they call the cops on me. 1 year ago I was happy, independant and healthy. Finasteride completely destroyed me

Do you know what people's experience is with taking 2ml? Do they just get really sedated or is it supposed to make you pass out?

im in the same situation as you. its hell. parents are destroyed too by this big pharma mess. Still trying to fight. I need to get to the 24 month mark to see if things did somewhat improve or not, im at 12th month now. after that i have a free card to go. Most people in withdrawal and other big pharma hell syndromes see most healing happen in 18-24 month mark. I dont want to interfere you. But just my story.

I read someone with finasteride hell syndrome that his B12 was very low caused by the finasteride. He takes injections now and it helps him. I know youre not stupid and did your research but i just wanted to let you know. if you didnt check. just check B12 to make sure

best wishes bro

 

[sadnurse]

I did a 'sleep test' because just like you, I was afraid N wouldn't work on me for one reason or another. Result of my sleep test: It knocked me on my ass! If I recall correctly I only used .5ml because I was afraid of overdoing it and potentially making things worse for myself, but that .5ml was enough to knock me out for a few hours and then when I 'woke up' my body was almost paralyzed for a while...I could barely force myself to move. That pretty much reassured me that the stuff I have is legit and that it's gonna work! I would start with less than 2ml just to be safe, but that's just me. You can always take more if you're not feeling anything but you can't undo taking too much.

BTW I'm extremely sorry to read what happened to you. I too am a victim of an FDA-approved Rx drug (Cipro) and I too live with crippling, agonizing pain literally every single minute of every single day. If you ever just need to talk to another person who's living a tortured existence not too different from your own, please feel free to message me.

Can I message you too ?

 

[CiproKilledMe]

Can I message you too ?

Yes, sure!

 

[PerpetualPain]

Maybe you could try mixing the 2 use sn first, then use your n so you can be unconcius faster, drinking 2 just asa a safety mesure its very unlikely 2 bottles of N wont be enough

Has anybody ever done this??

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Has anybody ever done this??

Sounds like an awful idea. SN will make you more likely to vomit the N

 

[Mocktezuma]

A hotel room is probably the best bet for SN and N. Nice quiet and private location. Family doesn't have to get involved. Is there a way to decrease your benzo intake in preparation for N? It can't hurt to try.

What's the best time to consume N with low chances of being found breathing in your hotel room ?

 

[PerpetualPain]

im in the same situation as you. its hell. parents are destroyed too by this big pharma mess. Still trying to fight. I need to get to the 24 month mark to see if things did somewhat improve or not, im at 12th month now. after that i have a free card to go. Most people in withdrawal and other big pharma hell syndromes see most healing happen in 18-24 month mark. I dont want to interfere you. But just my story.

I read someone with finasteride hell syndrome that his B12 was very low caused by the finasteride. He takes injections now and it helps him. I know youre not stupid and did your research but i just wanted to let you know. if you didnt check. just check B12 to make sure

best wishes bro

Thank you. I hope you are able to achieve some natural recovery over time. I read many accounts of people who have. What drug did you take?

 

[RN12]

Thank you. I hope you are able to achieve some natural recovery over time. I read many accounts of people who have. What drug did you take?

i took Paroxetin (SSRI/Antidepressant) 5 months and tapered (too fast i guess, 30 days) I get hit by WD symptoms. So i reinstated after 2 months. That's when all hell broke loose and completely destroyed me. Just like you with a reinstatement. I was very healthy before and 30 year old

I hope you can find courage to fight another 12 months. i dont know how either. But i did 12 months everyday thinking i couldnt do one day anymore. I know it's severe hell but i see most people making improvement steps between 18-24 months.

The problem with our case is we don't want to die deep inside but can't live like this with this torture. I try for my family.
After 24-30 months. I give myself a free card.

Take care buddy, you are not alone