Will we go to hell?

[lifesprisoner]

Hi guys! I hope you are all coping well today? Does it bother anyone else what happens after death? Is suicide truley a violation of "you shall not kill" as a protestant Christian i must say it does bother me i may end up in hell? I plan to ask the church myself tomorow as i look upon my ctb as euthanasia moreso than suicide? What about war? Are all allied soldiers in hell too? I think not. What about doctors administrating maid in foreign countries are they destined for hell too? Maybe not. I would be interested in hearing your guys views on this. Thanks

 

[dggtscccvfd]

Hi guys! I hope you are all coping well today? Does it bother anyone else what happens after death? Is suicide truley a violation of "you shall not kill" as a protestant Christian i must say it does bother me i may end up in hell? I plan to ask the church myself tomorow as i look upon my ctb as euthanasia moreso than suicide? What about war? Are all allied soldiers in hell too? I think not. What about doctors administrating maid in foreign countries are they destined for hell too? Maybe not. I would be interested in hearing your guys views on this. Thanks

I'll stick with the atheist pov: hell isn't real, it's an imaginary place created by religion in order to control people.

 

[sserafim]

We're already in hell

 

[lack]

it's hard for me to imagine there's a god that would create us and put us into suffering and then *punish it* for not being able to withstand it. or to punish those with compassion who choose to aid others with the ending of their suffering. this is all natural as fucking hell. natural in the way "god" made us be, we are naturally unable to survive. once upon a long time, ago i imagine many of us would have been left for dead by our tribes or whatever. would those people go to hell for not being "healthy" enough to survive without the community that left them behind? this is our modern version of that. of some kind of warped "natural selection".

though this is just my belief, so it's something that happens over time and based on my own perspective and observations and morals.

i love that we all have our own versions of that.
i wish it didn't start any wars, though.

 

[sserafim]

I'll stick with the atheist pov: hell isn't real, it's an imaginary place created by religion in order to control people.

True. Religion is just a tool used to control people. None of it is real

 

[dggtscccvfd]

True. Religion is just a tool used to control people. None of it is real

Religion annoys me: every time someone tries to change the law to allow euthanasia, religious folk protest.

 

[sserafim]

Religion annoys me: every time someone tries to change the law to allow euthanasia, religious folk protest.

Religion annoys me too. It's done more harm than good. Church and state should ALWAYS be separate. Religion is the opium of the masses

 

[stoplmp]

True. Religion is just a tool used to control people. None of it is real

This. + Religion also works with the government and it's used for the same purpose, control people.


"They" make religious people believe they will go to hell so they won't kill themselves, this is just to hide the fact that if a large amount of the population committed suicide, the society would fall. Which obviously means less people working, and less money for who's at the top controlling. Unfortunately it's all about money, like it has always been.

 

[lastexit717@proton.]

most likely not , i just cant fathom any crime that deserve eternal punishment , read the Sandman comic Season of Mist, there Lucifer himself is tired of the whole hell concpet because most of the people there are bound only by his own guilt, their crimes and their victims are fogotten by history , the only real hell is their own.

 

[karmaisabitch]

We already in it!!

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Wouldn't it be something if the only people who actually end up in hell are the ones who believe(d) in it, because that was the reality they created for themselves while alive?

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

No offense, but how religion has stood the test of time, as scienctific knowledge becomes more vast and gains more and more irrefutability, is beyond me. I am comfortable with my belief that there is no heaven and there is no hell.

 

[sserafim]

This. + Religion also works with the government and it's used for the same purpose, control people.


"They" make religious people believe they will go to hell so they won't kill themselves, this is just to hide the fact that if a large amount of the population committed suicide, the society would fall. Which obviously means less people working, and less money for who's at the top controlling. Unfortunately it's all about money, like it has always been.

Money makes the world go round

No offense, but how religion has stood the test of time, as scienctific knowledge becomes more vast and gains more and more irrefutability, is beyond me. I am comfortable with my belief that there is no heaven and there is no hell.

It's brainwashing to the max. It's basically indoctrination. I swear that religion is a cult. Religious people exhibit cult-like behavior and I think that they are conditioned into believing it

 

[Linda]

You are a protestant because all that christian nonsense was pushed into your brain when you were a young child and unable to think properly. You are now an adult. Try thinking. There is no evidence for hell, heaven or any of the claims of religion.

 

[lastexit717@proton.]

No offense, but how religion has stood the test of time, as scienctific knowledge becomes more vast and gains more and more irrefutability, is beyond me. I am comfortable with my belief that there is no heaven and there is no hell.

Is not rocket sciende , most people need something to belive or they crumble , i know i need it and if you dont i really envy you .

 

[SilverTiger]

Nope.

Lets say Protestantisim is the correct denomination of Christianity, what did the "Father of Protestantisim" in Europle has to say:

Martin Luther - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Luther taught that salvation and, consequently, eternal life are not earned by good deeds; rather, they are received only as the free gift of God's grace through the believer's faith in Jesus Christ, who is the sole redeemer from sin."

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Okay, but he has been dead for 500 years, God has taken him up to heaven for that long, lets get a more up to date reading... https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2017/14-july/news/uk/law-on-suicide-and-unbaptised-altered
So... The Anglian community, has said that it si fine for people who die by suicide to be buried in the CofE graveyards, I doubt they would bury people sentenced to eternal damnation in their graveyard... No I reckon, that they believe you won't be in hell, but in fact you will be with god.

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Right, so protestantisim is an offshot of Catholisim, so, arguably you are closer to god if you are catholic... Lets see what the current pope has to say

Pope Francis: ‘I like to think of hell as empty’

Pope Francis appeared on Italy’s most popular prime-time talk show on Sunday night where the pontiff shared how he hopes that hell is “empty.”

www.catholicnewsagency.com

""What I am going to say is not a dogma of faith but my own personal view: I like to think of hell as empty; I hope it is,""

I ask, who are you to argue with the Pope, God's messanger on Earth over Hell?

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Do you believe a god of infinte kindness would sentence you to an eternity of pain for suicide? I highly doubt you will go to hell, and the pope himself thinks Hell is empty, members of the Church of England will bury you with their loved ones after centuries of this not being allowed. You are not going to hell after suffering here.

Whatever you choodse to do champ, good luck!

 

[limeoctave]

i would probably be sent to hell, like Lil Nas X on a pole in the Montero clip

 

[lastexit717@proton.]

Nope.

Lets say Protestantisim is the correct denomination of Christianity, what did the "Father of Protestantisim" in Europle has to say:

Martin Luther - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Luther taught that salvation and, consequently, eternal life are not earned by good deeds; rather, they are received only as the free gift of God's grace through the believer's faith in Jesus Christ, who is the sole redeemer from sin."

---

Okay, but he has been dead for 500 years, God has taken him up to heaven for that long, lets get a more up to date reading... https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2017/14-july/news/uk/law-on-suicide-and-unbaptised-altered
So... The Anglian community, has said that it si fine for people who die by suicide to be buried in the CofE graveyards, I doubt they would bury people sentenced to eternal damnation in their graveyard... No I reckon, that they believe you won't be in hell, but in fact you will be with god.

--

Right, so protestantisim is an offshot of Catholisim, so, arguably you are closer to god if you are catholic... Lets see what the current pope has to say

Pope Francis: ‘I like to think of hell as empty’

Pope Francis appeared on Italy’s most popular prime-time talk show on Sunday night where the pontiff shared how he hopes that hell is “empty.”

www.catholicnewsagency.com

""What I am going to say is not a dogma of faith but my own personal view: I like to think of hell as empty; I hope it is,""

I ask, who are you to argue with the Pope, God's messanger on Earth over Hell?

--

Do you believe a god of infinte kindness would sentence you to an eternity of pain for suicide? I highly doubt you will go to hell, and the pope himself thinks Hell is empty, members of the Church of England will bury you with their loved ones after centuries of this not being allowed. You are not going to hell after suffering here.

Whatever you choodse to do champ, good luck!

we dont even had an opinion on christianity by Jesus who is supossed to be the man himself because he was not around to see his movement turn into a whole new religion, something he was not trying to do at all u_u
Im just sure the idea of eternal hell and suffering was never in his mind ,he was all about love and second chances.

 

[dreamscape1111]

There's no such thing as punishment, it's only an imagined idea invented by people who obviously don't understand God.

God needs nothing, It Is literally Everything, including Nothing, which makes It One and therefore totally Complete.

It can't die, since God has no form and imagines all forms (i/we/you) in Its unlimited Mind.

Your will for you is God's will for you, It doesn't care one way or another, we are just playing in a safe playground.

Parents teach us that love is conditional, but that's not True Love, which is totally unconditionally, not exceptions, no exclusions, since God Is One.

"God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him."
~ 1 John 4:16

There are no judgments in God's world, since It Is the world of the Absolute, there's no difference between anything.

"I do not love 'good' more than I love 'bad.' Hitler went to heaven. When you understand this, you will understand God."

~ God, Conversations with God, Book 1

There's no getting to Heaven, only a knowing that you're already there. You can't get where you already are.

You are not afraid of hell. You are afraid of the idea of it. That is why you are also afraid to let go of the idea of Christianity. Christianity and hell are both the same idea. Liberate yourself.


That makes the fear you have irrational and unfounded, see?

You've just adopted on faith a concept of hell from an outside source, and now you worry about what could happen if it is let go of. Notice that at some point you didn't have such a belief.

Whatever you are must exist prior to mind activity.


It isn't grounded in anything more than stories you were indoctrinated with as a child.

It's child abuse, really.

There is zero emprical evidence that God sends non-Christians to hell. And it makes no sense why God would do such a silly thing. Do dogs go to hell for not being Christians? Lol. Are we to believe that all the aliens around the universe go to hell because they aren't Christians? This is a cartoonishly biased notion.

If you really believe in a loving God, then such a God would forgive you for mistaken beliefs, not punish you for it.

Just know you are Loved, always, all-ways.


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[lastexit717@proton.]

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There's no such thing as punishment, it's only an imagined idea invented by people who obviously don't understand God.

God needs nothing, It Is literally Everything, including Nothing, which makes It One and therefore totally Complete.

It can't die, since God has no form and imagines all forms (i/we/you) in Its unlimited Mind.

Your will for you is God's will for you, It doesn't care one way or another, we are just playing in a safe playground.

Parents teach us that love is conditional, but that's not True Love, which is totally unconditionally, not exceptions, no exclusions, since God Is One.

"God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him."
~ 1 John 4:16

There are no judgments in God's world, since It Is the world of the Absolute, there's no difference between anything.

"I do not love 'good' more than I love 'bad.' Hitler went to heaven. When you understand this, you will understand God."

~ God, Conversations with God, Book 1

There's no getting to Heaven, only a knowing that you're already there. You can't get where you already are.

You are not afraid of hell. You are afraid of the idea of it. That is why you are also afraid to let go of the idea of Christianity. Christianity and hell are both the same idea. Liberate yourself.


That makes the fear you have irrational and unfounded, see?

You've just adopted on faith a concept of hell from an outside source, and now you worry about what could happen if it is let go of. Notice that at some point you didn't have such a belief.

Whatever you are must exist prior to mind activity.


It isn't grounded in anything more than stories you were indoctrinated with as a child.

It's child abuse, really.

There is zero emprical evidence that God sends non-Christians to hell. And it makes no sense why God would do such a silly thing. Do dogs go to hell for not being Christians? Lol. Are we to believe that all the aliens around the universe go to hell because they aren't Christians? This is a cartoonishly biased notion.

If you really believe in a loving God, then such a God would forgive you for mistaken beliefs, not punish you for it.

Just know you are Loved, always, all-ways.


For more resources check out these gems:

This is somewaht reassuring , thanks for sharing.

 

[ringo99]

There is no heaven or hell. Only nothingness after death. Don't bother trying to wrap your head around it. It's impossible to imagine a state where your consciousness ceases to exist since human imagination requires consciousness

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

Is not rocket sciende , most people need something to belive or they crumble , i know i need it and if you dont i really envy you .

I have nothing against people who believe/need to believe. It's not that I don't "need" to believe. I just that I simply can't believe, based on my exposure to the sciences. It would be fake belief if I were to believe.

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[divinemistress36]

I'll text yall on the other side when I'm dead and report back my findings

 

[lastexit717@proton.]

I'll text yall on the other side when I'm dead and report back my findings

There is a funny history about this kind of pacts, google for Don Bosco and Luigi Comollo .

 

[divinemistress36]

There are some people who believe it's in some people's soul contract to commit suicide it's interesting

 

[Konjac]

i'd theorise (take it with a grain of salt) if there is any 'hell' in someone's afterlife experience then i think it's self imposed and a reflection of what someone thinks their afterlife would've been. i'd rather stick with my own beliefs which involve this concept and similar... i imagine myself going back to a creator and source of types (the nature of which i cannot and likely will never be able to comprehend) amongst the stars as a spirit being of sorts, that is comforting to me and i'd like to explore the cosmos for a while to destress from whatever the fuck this life was if that's an option! whether that happens or not we'll have to wait and see. as of yet i've found no way to solidly confirm this, but it's human nature to want to believe in something as a form of explanation or comfort when it comes to these things... i choose not to believe i'll burn for eternity for wanting to end my suffering, i'd drive myself crazy trying to conform to a belief system so far from my core nature and ethics.

 

[Raindancer]

I am so glad everyone posting for a fact something that they have no way of knowing 100% whether it is a fact or not. I am tired of being told my God doesn't exist, that I a,weak because I believe He does. Were are all entitled to our opinions, but they are ONLY opinions. I do believe in hell and there are other Christians here and it is a valid question. Dismissing our faith as we are conflicted about something as serious as CTB, is irresponsible.

Here is what I believe and have researched to the best of my ability. There is only one unforgivable sin and that is denying the Holy Spirit. I and many respected non-denominational pastors(from books they have written) do not believe suicide is a sin. When someone is in such agonizing pain, and has tried everything, I believe God understands. That being said, we are also told to give Him our burdens and lay it at the cross. I do not know why I and others continue to suffer. But I do know Jesus suffered way worse and knows what we are going through. For right now that is enough.

 

[Stupid_Anon_Offline]

Hi guys! I hope you are all coping well today? Does it bother anyone else what happens after death? Is suicide truley a violation of "you shall not kill" as a protestant Christian i must say it does bother me i may end up in hell? I plan to ask the church myself tomorow as i look upon my ctb as euthanasia moreso than suicide? What about war? Are all allied soldiers in hell too? I think not. What about doctors administrating maid in foreign countries are they destined for hell too? Maybe not. I would be interested in hearing your guys views on this. Thanks

Even if hell is real, I feel like it would be better than what is happening here on earth.

 

[CowardStaysIn]

Short answer: No.

Longer answer: No, and Hell is an invention. Scare people into staying on this planet of psychos and narcissists so that they're served by having bodies in the way. It is your life and your decision whether or not you want to go on. If you want to go on, fine, but if you don't, also fine.

 

[not_applicable]

we dont even had an opinion on christianity by Jesus who is supossed to be the man himself because he was not around to see his movement turn into a whole new religion, something he was not trying to do at all u_u
Im just sure the idea of eternal hell and suffering was never in his mind ,he was all about love and second chances.

He is actually portrayed multiple times talking about hell, like in the gosepel of matthew where he says "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
But of course almost every "eyewitness" account in the gospels(and bible in general) should be taken with a grain of salt considering the concensus of academic scholars is that none of the gospels were written by eyewitnesses. Not to mention the synoptic relationship, many contradictions, etc.

Funnily enough, at some points in the old testament the concept of the afterlife is portrayed as a place where the dead are sent indiscriminately.