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Serene

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It's not stretchable. Just want to be sure it's strong enough.
 
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One problem would also be that the pressure will distribute over a wide area of your neck, so it could take longer (maybe too long) to pass out. It´s better to use a rope with a not too thick and not to thin diametre
 
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Serene

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One problem would also be that the pressure will distribute over a wide area of your neck, so it could take longer (maybe too long) to pass out. It´s better to use a rope with a not too thick and not to thin diametre

What kind of rope and what diameter? I'm seeing a lot that are polypropylene- does that work? I did two trial runs with other materials (cotton sweatpants, ligature) and passed out really quickly.
 
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Polypropylene would work. If you are slim about 10mm would be enough, if your weight is a little bit higher take about 12-15mm. if it will be partial in a more sitting position 10mm would be enough for every weight
 
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Yes, I'm really thin (less than 100lbs). Will a support that is my height (or few inches below) work for partial, or does it have to be higher?

Its a metal wardrobe bar if that makes a differnce
 
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It will work it just depends how you want to hang. Sitting, laying down, standing, kneeling...
 
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Serene

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I am really worried about it working. Keep reading stories here of failed attempts.
 
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Be sure you fix the rope on a good point, use a slip knot and try to fall into a position where you are not able to stand up. then you will be death soon
 
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Jon

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Which of the following rope(s) would be suitable for full hanging?

The pull up bar is about 2.5 metres off the ground, I'm about 1.90m, slim built, 60kg. By stretching I can just about hold onto the bar with my feet touching the ground. Still unsure whether to do full or partial hanging. Two ropes would be better than one, one to act as a 'safety' rope in case one fails. I've also got a a nylon beach towel and a flexible skipping rope I might use specifically for the jugular veins.

Also what length should the rope be? I was thinking 2 metres.
 

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Ixtab

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I am really worried about it working. Keep reading stories here of failed attempts.
People who succeded don't write here anymore. So, unfortunately, they can't tell us, how it worked.
For real information I'm analyzing forensic images, how they did it right, there are hundreds... and even a few live videos.
I'm sorry for your worries.
 
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Jon

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I can't find it

It's on Android, it's called knots 3D. I got when it was free. Though the slip knot is easy enough to do, you don't really need an app. There's several YouTube videos on how to make it as well, one was posted on hanging resource thread.

While I'm here, does any body know which of the ropes above is best? I put the pic in post number 11.
 
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It's on Android, it's called knots 3D. I got when it was free. Though the slip knot is easy enough to do, you don't really need an app. There's several YouTube videos on how to make it as well, one was posted on hanging resource thread.

While I'm here, does any body know which of the ropes above is best? I put the pic in post number 11.

Okay, thanks.

I'd take the blue one. It really depends on what you're most comfortable with. If you go with partial suspension the rope doesn't really matter but if you go with full make sure it can hold several hundred kilograms.

It really depends on your neck, you'll have to experiment a bit.
I'd take 5 to 8 meters.
 
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People who succeded don't write here anymore. So, unfortunately, they can't tell us, how it worked.
For real information I'm analyzing forensic images, how they did it right, there are hundreds... and even a few live videos.
I'm sorry for your worries.
can you share some of that forensic info
 
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Jon

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Okay, thanks.

I'd take the blue one. It really depends on what you're most comfortable with. If you go with partial suspension the rope doesn't really matter but if you go with full make sure it can hold several hundred kilograms.

It really depends on your neck, you'll have to experiment a bit.
I'd take 5 to 8 meters.

Cheers mate, I almost missed your reply as well! My neck is quite thin, like my body. I was thinking the blue one at the bottom as well. I might buy a few to experiment if they're not too expensive.
 
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Serene

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People who succeded don't write here anymore. So, unfortunately, they can't tell us, how it worked.
For real information I'm analyzing forensic images, how they did it right, there are hundreds... and even a few live videos.
I'm sorry for your worries.

Where are you getting all the forensic images?
 
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Because I am weak from chronic illness and securing rope takes a lot more strength than I have. I thought with the strap I could secure somehow with the buckle or something. I am housebound because of my illness.
I understand. Sorry that you are in such a situation. I can relate.
 
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406blue

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Sep 7, 2018
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Yes, I'm really thin (less than 100lbs). Will a support that is my height (or few inches below) work for partial, or does it have to be higher?

Its a metal wardrobe bar if that makes a differnce
I know we hear about people doing it in wardrobes but they are celebs who possibly have better made furniture that the rest of us. Most of the mass produced furniture i encounter is put together with little attention to solidity and there's no way i would consider hanging from it if i wanted some form of confidence. Most bathrooms have a water heater that is very firmly attached to the wall with 4 deep bolts in concrete, maybe with epoxy resin, as they hold a hundred kilos of water at the least .Of all the available ligature points available in the average home, i'd say these are the most firm and reliable, apart from something like a beam in the garage. For the same reason i read about people considering tying it a door knob and hanging it over the top etc. Modern cheapo construction is not to be relied upon to take the weight and the ensuing convulsions., imho. A tree however, you can rely on.

I'm sorry to hear you're not very mobile but look for a more firm ligature point than a wardrobe rail. It might take your weight initially but fail under duress. Perhaps you have bulletproof furniture and have full confidence in it. A good test even if you are partial hanging is to try to put your full weight on it and see how it feels.
 
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I know we hear about people doing it in wardrobes but they are celebs who possibly have better made furniture that the rest of us. Most of the mass produced furniture i encounter is put together with little attention to solidity and there's no way i would consider hanging from it if i wanted some form of confidence. Most bathrooms have a water heater that is very firmly attached to the wall with 4 deep bolts in concrete, maybe with epoxy resin, as they hold a hundred kilos of water at the least .Of all the available ligature points available in the average home, i'd say these are the most firm and reliable, apart from something like a beam in the garage. For the same reason i read about people considering tying it a door knob and hanging it over the top etc. Modern cheapo construction is not to be relied upon to take the weight and the ensuing convulsions., imho. A tree however, you can rely on.
I've been testing by knotting a strong nylon rope around a rolled up towel, throwing it over my bedroom door and closing it so the knot is in the other side. I can sit on the floor and pull myself up on it. For some reason I don't trust the doorknob - like it may break (just held by screws) and the rope is very close to the top corner of the door and could slip over and come down the side.
 
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406blue

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Sep 7, 2018
379
I've been testing by knotting a strong nylon rope around a rolled up towel, throwing it over my bedroom door and closing it so the knot is in the other side. I can sit on the floor and pull myself up on it. For some reason I don't trust the doorknob - like it may break (just held by screws) and the rope is very close to the top corner of the door and could slip over and come down the side.
Do you have a bathroom water heater? A water heater vessel? A big white metal cannister fixed to the wall in your bathroom or kitchen?
 
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406blue

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hm, you're light so maybe the other options will do, whatever you think of using, try to put your full body weight on it and tug like mad. if it doesn't move then i guess you're okay
 
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Jon

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Oct 1, 2018
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Because I am weak from chronic illness and securing rope takes a lot more strength than I have. I thought with the strap I could secure somehow with the buckle or something. I am housebound because of my illness.

There was a thread, I'm sure on this site, which shows self strangulation with images where some people tightened a cord or strap around their neck cutting off their jugular veins. There's some advantages to this and provided the cord is a slip knot and lubricated so it can be tightened without much pressure, you wouldn't need any real physical strength, in theory at least. By simply pressing the sides of your neck where you feel your heat beats the strongest is where these veins are, and if you test it now with your hands you'll note that you quickly start to feel a little dizzy after applying a little pressure. That would act as an alternative to hanging, and you can do it at your own pace (though bear in mind that even testing methods like this could prove fatal, or worse, leave you with brain damage if for any reason the cord slips loose while you're unconscious).

Here's the method:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/tourniquet-method-guide.1203/

Also, if you type into Google Jugular veins strangulation you'll see further info including case reports of suicides using this method. Though I can't in any way vouch for its success, I have read some conflicting reports but that applies to every method. The problem is that hanging one dies by his own weight, and it's his weight that forces the knot to keep tight thus maintaining pressure. You wouldn't have this guarantee in ligature strangulation, which is what it's also known as and brings up a few more search results in Google.
 
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