Will suicide be easier in the future?

[Mukey]

Let's say if we all hold out for another 20-30 years, will suicide and euthanasia laws be easier and better than ever? Maybe euthanasia will be legal and more painless methods will be available across the world. This is my dream but I highly doubt I could ever hold out that long.

 

[8evergo]

ich hoffe es wir sind zu viele auf der Welt

 

[eternalmelancholy]

Look at places with lax euthanasia laws like Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands. You have to navigate through a lot of bureaucratic hurdles to even qualify.

I don't think suicide will ever be fully tolerated since society constantly needs new workers and consumers to sustain itself. N and exit bag is as painless as it will get. Just procuring the necessary materials is the problem.

I guess the only solace is that eventually you will die. Even if you can't ctb on your own death is coming for you. Whether it is 3 days from now or 30 years down the road.

 

[8evergo]

we bei Futur Rama Selbstmord Telefonzellen kennt ihr das noch die Serie ein Traum der mal wahr werden wird

 

[MG_39]

The neurotechnology will for certain result in a neural lace both for physical and mental problems, and also to increase the bandwidth. But just as it is now it will probably only be available for people with a lot of money. But with that technology it will be people who make software to be able to use it as people use drugs now (Being able to control neurotransmitter levels) and if you can control neurotransmitter levels, it's very easy to ctb.

 

[noname223]

I think euthanasia will become more accessible. However I think there won't be a perfect method against SI.

 

[FuneralCry]

Probably not. From what I have heard, it is difficult to get accepted in the countries that allow euthanasia. If euthanasia was legal everywhere for everyone it would shatter the delusion that people hold that life is always worth living. We all deserve an peaceful exit at a time of our own choosing. It is cruel how the society expects us to suffer for decades.

 

[Bookscover]

I see a possibility of gene editing which would prevent people from feeling suicidal. Sounds fucking horrible but ay.

 

[stellabelle]

Let's say if we all hold out for another 20-30 years, will suicide and euthanasia laws be easier and better than ever? Maybe euthanasia will be legal and more painless methods will be available across the world. This is my dream but I highly doubt I could ever hold out that long.

I hope it never takes that long.
For all the suffering with life, coronavirus, nonsense, and the pointless part of existence (especially in my situation) - it would be an absolute positive to give every person a right to die. To end their own existence and say heeheeeee bye bye, and the world goes on happy and we go wherever it is we do. It is cruel to say that this is all treatable, it's not. We have treated each other like shit and asked why. Well, we all gave up for the reason? There was no reason at all.

People are selfish. For all the money in the world and no money at all, my life and everything about it went out the window thanks to stalkers, liars, thieves, criminals, a poor upbringing (as in low quality) and a bad adulthood where everyone ignored me, lied about me, played stupid little games, and wanted to continue the oppression and pretend like there was all the time in the world and that abuse was justifiable when it wasn't. They call it "recovery" - I call it a waste. Recover from what? Rape, poison, theft, drama, lies, jealousy, and all of those cruel things? An unwanted child, destroyed by a woman who refused to love her own daughter and help her but instead destroyed everything and every last potential. Imagine that. Well, everyone got their wish I guess.
And mine? Ruined.
I wonder why. Here's an idea. Don't scream at your children. If you have them, speak to them and with honesty and kindness, do not expose them to repeated violence and misery. Do not continue the abuse and bribes and interference with progress and healing. It is a cut so deep it will never heal. The words "I love you" - my mother would never say and she would never hug, she'd just scream and be wicked. Wondered why I hated and couldn't forgive her or Matt or anybody else that did this to me? Because they did it out of cruelty and wondered why. Why I couldn't forgive them for ripping my arm out of socket, my hair out of my head, or anything else they did to destroy me and my life. To paint me as this or that. Imagine being screwed with at school, drugged and screamed at and abused at home, every day from the moment you wake up until you sleep, and finally making progress only for someone so mean to destroy it. You know, we should be able to put ourselves down like dogs. People try to be "wise" and say if you want it so bad you'd do it, well make it easily available at any pharmacy and set a timer for when a funeral home or coroner can respond and remove/dispose of the body. Over the age of 18/21.

they call it "mental illness" when a person purposely does all of those things. But what's even worse is when it's directed sadism for entertainment. Never being taken seriously and always being stolen from and screwed with. You know, nothing could change the screams. I'd always ask "are you done yet? Stop screaming" and then she'd only waste 911 and accuse me. Like she did to my sisters and like she did to my father. She was a lunatic. She threw me to lunatics and lied and wondered why I hated her so much and couldn't forgive her. Nice crap, but I asked for a card or a place to live or an education and not repeated oppression… she's dead now, and it doesn't matter, I don't matter, nothing matters, damage done, case closed.

some people just don't have a good life.
so to hell with it. Tomorrow could've been better but it never did get better did it? Just being ignored and oppressed. Oh well.
Me and siarc should've taken that journey together.

 

[bennay]

I see a possibility of gene editing which would prevent people from feeling suicidal. Sounds fucking horrible but ay.

This is starting to become a thing in a sense, docs are doing gene testing to see what meds will be more compatible for a person, this may be used as a weapon against euthanasia groups later on if it becomes more widely routine in the medical field. Obviously this won't cover every situation but for those with mental illness it may create an even larger hurdle.

 

[stellabelle]

This is starting to become a thing in a sense, docs are doing gene testing to see what meds will be more compatible for a person, this may be used as a weapon against euthanasia groups later on if it becomes more widely routine in the medical field. Obviously this won't cover every situation but for those with mental illness it may create an even larger hurdle.

I don't think genetics are necessarily guilty, sure they can be sometimes if there's an actual chemical imbalance but if it's due to environmental factors like abuse at home and a lack of support or anything that could change it, that people continued playing games with STUFF and OBJECTS and BRIBES and MONEY… the stupidest shit I've ever seen happen again and again and again.., and you wonder why? We're better off dead, not poisoning a row and labeling people.

I blame the minimal standards for CPS - food and cleanliness and that's it. And we label abused children and say too bad.
so a child screamed at and hit every morning and hair yanked out of their head and every day after school with unpredictable behavior should be labeled? This is a very deep matter and problem with no solution.

the child and their siblings and other parent threatened that many times, too many times, being told they'll never believe you, blah blah, and too afraid to call 911 unless you hear a gunshot. Yeah. Mom needed to die or be kicked to the curb and not able to hurt me for so long.

the siblings and the rest of it. Yeah. It just kinda killed everything. All the selfish people and all the stupid little poisoning games. Why thank you, thank you, I wish I was gone and someday I will be. No more happiness for me, just lies and games.

 

[bennay]

I don't think genetics are necessarily guilty, sure they can be sometimes if there's an actual chemical imbalance but if it's due to environmental factors like abuse at home and a lack of support or anything that could change it, that people continued playing games with STUFF and OBJECTS and BRIBES and MONEY… the stupidest shit I've ever seen happen again and again and again.., and you wonder why? We're better off dead, not poisoning a row and labeling people.

I blame the minimal standards for CPS - food and cleanliness and that's it. And we label abused children and say too bad.
so a child screamed at and hit every morning and hair yanked out of their head and every day after school with unpredictable behavior should be labeled? This is a very deep matter and problem with no solution.

the child and their siblings and other parent threatened that many times, too many times, being told they'll never believe you, blah blah, and too afraid to call 911 unless you hear a gunshot. Yeah. Mom needed to die or be kicked to the curb and not able to hurt me for so long.

Even with trauma, pro lifers are still going to call it depression and ptsd, gene test and say "hey these medications are compatible with your make up" and when it still doesn't work because the problem is bigger than a bottle of meds can fix, they are going to say "that's impossible" "Youre making it up" blah blah blah it's just going to be yet ANOTHER thing they can use to gaslight in my opinion.

 

[stellabelle]

Even with trauma, pro lifers are still going to call it depression and ptsd, gene test and say "hey these medications are compatible with your make up" and when it still doesn't work because the problem is bigger than a bottle of meds can fix, they are going to say "that's impossible" "Youre making it up" blah blah blah it's just going to be yet ANOTHER thing they can use to gaslight in my opinion.

I have to agree. And this is a huge problem. No no no don't die, we wanted to hurt you some more (sinister smile) it's "entertainment" - to hell with it. There are enough of us on the god damn planet. Too many that have too much and too many that have too little. No balance. Oppression. Permanent solution to what is usually referred to as a temporary problem. It's a permanent solution to a permanent problem, consciousness itself.

 

[bennay]

I have to agree. And this is a huge problem. No no no don't die, we wanted to hurt you some more (sinister smile) it's "entertainment" - to hell with it. There are enough of us on the god damn planet. Too many that have too much and too many that have too little. No balance. Oppression. Permanent solution to what is usually referred to as a temporary problem. It's a permanent solution to a permanent problem, consciousness itself.

It's selfish af! They just want to keep you kicking as long as possible because your pain puts money in their pockets! Some people just want off this fucked up ride, none of asked for this life, we certainly didn't ask for the shit sandwich it handed us but yet they continue trying to act as if they have the slightest clue and label you crazy because you no longer want to eat that damn shit sandwich!

 

[sorryforthat]

I think so. with all of these datas and even machines it would be. look at Sarco which has made by Dr philip nitshke. it is brilliant
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[stellabelle]

It's selfish af! They just want to keep you kicking as long as possible because your pain puts money in their pockets! Some people just want off this fucked up ride, none of asked for this life, we certainly didn't ask for the shit sandwich it handed us but yet they continue trying to act as if they have the slightest clue and label you crazy because you no longer want to eat that damn shit sandwich!

that is correct.
I think people enjoy exploiting others, making them miserable and driving them to the point of suicide and then pretending like they didn't provoke that person to that point.
then they say the person is crazy. But not the assailant that did this to the person.

I got to the bottom of it years ago and nobody would stop their stupid little games.
my mother was a disgusting abuser and threw me to abusers and said to abuse me. I was desperate to just be loved or whatever and nobody would because of her narcissistic abuse. She would throw every gory detail in my face and use other violent people to continue provoking and harassing me. No rise out of me and they would escalate and it goes back to the circus, if she would've just stopped her screaming rampages I could've gotten through school. She used material items to try to make up for the abuse and it never could. Then she'd tell people "well (name) has problems) - my problems were growing up with a violent bipolar mentally ill sex offender and CPS refusing to do anything about it besides saying look the house is clean and there's food and that's the minimum standard. She walked through no contact orders and kept sending horrible emails and messages and allowed me to continue being stalked and abused, falsely imprisoned by another stalker and rapist MATT who would not stop threatening my classmates, stealing my money, chasing me down the freeway, threatening any friends, installing a tracker on my phone, insisting he has "changed" when he never had. Digging for sexual information, forcing his head between my legs, all of that, until I overdose. What happens when you overdose? Everyone talks shit and says it's your fault for hallucinating and overdosing but all of the pills in the world would not stop him from abusing me, and the state of california allowed it to go on and blamed me for being there when I really had no idea and I knew he was gaslighting me and collaborating with the coward hiding in another state. He would pretend to be "nice" and steal my money and lie and stare at me and keep trying to isolate me and they all wanted to continuously have me thrown out of school, work, house, and home because they enjoyed the abuse. Finally my mother is dead but my rapists are not and then we ask why people want themselves or others dead? Oh did we share and throw sick details in your face and do it to you again and again and again? Imagine that. And bad housemates, more people who pretend to "help" and they just want to rape you, steal from you, talk shit about you, and then say it's your fault. For what? Being desperate to be loved or get a better job or out of abuse?
Fuck it.

same goes for stalkers. Stalkers that don't quit or stop when told to stop. The law says that nothing can be done until they do something. So it's fine to stalk, harass, push, prod, annoy, fuck with a person until they walk away? And when they do you steal their phones, vehicle, makeup, and anything else just to steal and stalk? So what? What do I do if a stalker continues? Allow them to rape, steal, jump, stab, whatever? Or beat the fuck out of them and say too bad you didn't stop when you were told to stop. Oh no but then you're the assailant? I think there's a big problem with this and I see it coming a mile away the problem was being told basically just tell whoever you can and be done with it so there's a trail about it. That's devastating isn't it?

They are obsessed with my fucking crotch and will not leave me alone.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

No, will be harder. Unlikely things have to happen for us to be treated in a humane way.