Will I be accepted into heaven?

[RatLiker]

I'm christian, I was baptized and I have confirmed. I believe in God and in heaven, but I understand that killing myself would go against God's will. I tried to only do good in my life, I was always kind and understanding towards others. I never hurt a soul. But would that matter? I'm sure the lord knows what I'm going through and what's going on in my head, would they understand? I don't think I'm a bad person... I just don't want to suffer anymore in a corrupt world, but I also don't want to suffer eternally in hell, or be forever lost in purgatory. I just want peace. Would my friends and family who have passed be there? Would they still love me? I'm so very afraid. I never wanted anything malicious. I can't go on like this.

 

[imcadt99]

I am a former Christian, so I'm not sure how much comfort my words can bring you, but I certainly empathize with your fears even now. There was someone who CTB in the church I attended in my youth and the consensus was that God would not punish someone for an illness outside of their control. I won't say I agree nor disagree with that view, but I do think it brought needed attention to mental health issues within the church.

I don't wish to challenge your beliefs in any way, but my personal view is that I do not believe a just and omniscient God, knowing my inevitable fate before my birth given his omniscience, would spawn me into existence knowing my end only to torture me for the rest of eternity. If you can rationalize the predestinarianism that logically comes with believing in an omniscient God, surely he would at least spare those who tried to lead an honest life.

 

[RichardFirst]

I am a Christian, and I do not believe that God would damn anyone who took their life when living became too difficult. We all have a time, and for some of us, that time is when we CTB?

 

[Shadowlord900]

If there is an after-life and a Heaven, I imagine the people running Heaven would have higher intellect and empathy than everyone currently on Earth. I'd think not only would they be far more forgiving of people taking their own lives, they likely also won't even see it as a bad thing depending on the circumstances.

 

[CentreMid]

I am a Christian, and I do not believe that God would damn anyone who took their life when living became too difficult. We all have a time, and for some of us, that time is when we CTB?

Ex-Christian here. I agree. I believe, that if a god is truly loving, it wouldn't condemn anyone who wanted a more peaceful existence through suicide. Here is my line of thinking:

Going against your god's will is a sin. Jesus died for all sins to be forgiven, regardless of how bad they were or when they took place. This means all you need to do is have faith in that and you'll go to heaven. If Jesus died for all sins, it means ALL sins, including suicide. So, using this stance, as long as you have faith that Jesus died for all sins including suicide, then you will probably go to Heaven.

Just my thoughts though, plus I haven't been part of a religion in almost a decade so I might be a lil rusty in my biblical/historical/religious knowledge. Hope this helps though, and I wish you peace

 

[junko]

I'm christian, I was baptized and I have confirmed. I believe in God and in heaven, but I understand that killing myself would go against God's will. I tried to only do good in my life, I was always kind and understanding towards others. I never hurt a soul. But would that matter? I'm sure the lord knows what I'm going through and what's going on in my head, would they understand? I don't think I'm a bad person... I just don't want to suffer anymore in a corrupt world, but I also don't want to suffer eternally in hell, or be forever lost in purgatory. I just want peace. Would my friends and family who have passed be there? Would they still love me? I'm so very afraid. I never wanted anything malicious. I can't go on like this.

The answer depends on your denomination, honestly. Even then, people will disagree.

Universalism might soothe your worries, though. I have a hard time believing that people will be sent to hell, especially since a lot of references to it in the Bible were references to a real place.

(There are plenty that are references to a place of damnation, however, don't get me wrong.)

I'm also a Christian, and from one to another, remember that our God is a righteous and loving one. He experienced human suffering firsthand, so there's literally no one better who understands why you feel drawn to do this.

No matter what happens in your life, I pray that He is as merciful and kind as we know Him to be.

 

[Caoine01]

I think that's an interesting question. Most of the people I spoke to here are very afraid of life after death. As soon as there is such a thing as consciousness and memory, a meritocracy undoubtedly emerges. That's my belief. Your concept of good friends on the other hand, and purgatory towards them, also describes this quite figuratively. If my suicide only takes me from one meritocracy to another,

I can't see anything positive about it. Perhaps you can detach yourself from the image and try to accept that it is an arcaic model and the reality is much much simpler. And if we should meet in hell after all, I kindly ask you to apologize for the wrong advice.

 

[AllMyDreams]

I went to a Christian school when I was younger... my two cents is that as long as your intent is not malicious (you're not killing yourself to hurt or spite someone, but because your suffering is intolerable and persistent), then it shouldn't merit any punishment from God. And you're certainly not a bad person for feeling this way. It's obvious in fact that you're considerate and thoughtful for asking these questions.

Having said that, God or whatever force is out there put you on Earth for a reason. Life is valuable. So before you do it make sure you try every treatment option available. And I recommend you wait until you're at least 23/24, because when you're young the brain has tremendous potential to stabilize, and there are many new experiences and ways of thinking still unknown to you.

Ask yourself: is the only reason God put me on this earth to have me kill myself? Or did he see other potential in me?

 

[Jadzia]

There is no God. Why do you believe that your God is the real one when there are thousands that people believe in? Many that came before yours. I recommend reading some Christopher Hitchens or watch Youtube videos of him. Apply some critical thinking and realise religions and gods are man made. Free yourself from this huge con.

 

[stoopid]

I hope god will understand our Intention, we have to trust him, we already live in our personal hell.

Don't be afraid

 

[Sulyya]

I definitely believe in a soul and that they're all saved. Interested to see a few people here who agree. Don't give up too easily, though I understand your desire to die.

 

[raindrinker30]

Jesus committed assisted suicide. He knew exactly what was going to happen to him and he went along with it anyway and wanted to die

 

[outrider567]

I'm christian, I was baptized and I have confirmed. I believe in God and in heaven, but I understand that killing myself would go against God's will. I tried to only do good in my life, I was always kind and understanding towards others. I never hurt a soul. But would that matter? I'm sure the lord knows what I'm going through and what's going on in my head, would they understand? I don't think I'm a bad person... I just don't want to suffer anymore in a corrupt world, but I also don't want to suffer eternally in hell, or be forever lost in purgatory. I just want peace. Would my friends and family who have passed be there? Would they still love me? I'm so very afraid. I never wanted anything malicious. I can't go on like this.

Its not against God's will, God will understand

 

[guayabas]

When I went to church as a kid, the rule was always that as long as you believe in Jesus as your savior, it doesn't matter what you do, you'll go to heaven. Jesus died for all your sins.

 

[downndone2]

I sire hope so...

 

[Darkover]

the amount of delusion in this thread is unbelievable this species is delusional, A person with a delusion is absolutely convinced that the delusion is real. Delusions are a symptom of either a medical, neurological, or mental disorder, there is no god heaven or hell

 

[Dot]

Thnk = importnt 2 remmbr tht SaSu = inclusve

If ppl hve persnl belifs thn thy hve th/ rght 2 dscuss thse in a resptcfl envirnmnt

Fr sme ppl thr faith = only thng tht brngs thm comfrt s/ if othrs d/ nt share thse belifs thn = bst 2 jst mve on

 

[stoopid]

When I went to church as a kid, the rule was always that as long as you believe in Jesus as your savior, it doesn't matter what you do, you'll go to heaven. Jesus died for all your sins.

If you read the Bible, suicide is not a sin, murder is a sin, but suicide doesn't count, there are even a few examples of people who did it and don't get 0,01% judged, it's very neutral after all, it's not important what churches or other random religions people say, as a christian the first rule is, to read and understand the Bible, and if it's not in the Bible it could be seen as a "wishy washy" with not a clear answer, it's probably not the best way to go in a christian/religious sense, because usually it's meant to propagate the kingdom of God and stuff, but I think that's an "emergency" and would be surely handled like that, why would you get punished when you do something out of sadness and despair? No father would judge his child like that.

 

[stermc]

I do not believe in God, but I have for some time and I have read the bible many times. If you consider the God from the old testament, I would say he makes the rules as he pleases. But the God that is presented in the new testament, the God that Jesus talks about… I don't think he would condemn someone's soul in this situation. It wouldn't make any sense, because he sees your heart, your intentions and all your suffering.

 

[OutOfTheVoid]

i believe that God is compassionate and forgiving, and understands people who do choose to end their lives. God wants us to be happy and at peace, not suffering. God understands that we do not choose to be born, but gives us to the choice to leave if we wish

as long as you do not hurt others and do not commit injustice, you will be accepted into heaven.

the amount of delusion in this thread is unbelievable this species is delusional, A person with a delusion is absolutely convinced that the delusion is real. Delusions are a symptom of either a medical, neurological, or mental disorder, there is no god heaven or hell

have some basic respect for others' beliefs. your reply is incredibly insensitive, not to mention ableist

 

[RatLiker]

Thanks for the kind replies, this gave me some much needed comfort. I'll try to hold out and pray for a bit more. That's all I can do...

 

[LookAway]

Thnk = importnt 2 remmbr tht SaSu = inclusve

If ppl hve persnl belifs thn thy hve th/ rght 2 dscuss thse in a resptcfl envirnmnt

Fr sme ppl thr faith = only thng tht brngs thm comfrt s/ if othrs d/ nt share thse belifs thn = bst 2 jst mve on

Yeah it's funny to me. All of these people claiming that there is no God or Creator or any of these things as if they know for a fact when they don't know a goddamn thing. Matter of fact most of the things they know somebody else taught them it wasn't through direct experience. Gnosis.

 

[Worndown]

Given that in Christianity all will be forgiven or you go to hell for eating meat on Friday, your options vary. It could depend on your flavor of religion. Since all profess to worship the same supreme being, chaos ensues.
Focus on your needs.

 

[CursedMemorial]

I'm christian, I was baptized and I have confirmed. I believe in God and in heaven, but I understand that killing myself would go against God's will. I tried to only do good in my life, I was always kind and understanding towards others. I never hurt a soul. But would that matter? I'm sure the lord knows what I'm going through and what's going on in my head, would they understand? I don't think I'm a bad person... I just don't want to suffer anymore in a corrupt world, but I also don't want to suffer eternally in hell, or be forever lost in purgatory. I just want peace. Would my friends and family who have passed be there? Would they still love me? I'm so very afraid. I never wanted anything malicious. I can't go on like this.

No, it says in the bible "Suicide is a grave sin equivalent to murder", but god isn't real anyway, so it doesnt matter.

 

[Dot]

No, it says in the bible "Suicide is a grave sin equivalent to murder", but god isn't real anyway, so it doesnt matter.

Xcept tht = ds nt sy tht n.ewhre -- Christn opinns on suicde r all opn 2 interprtatn

 

[CursedMemorial]

Xcept tht = ds nt sy tht n.ewhre -- Christn opinns on suicde r all opn 2 interprtatn

... What?

 

[Sparr0w]

... What?

"except that it doesn't say that anywhere - christian opinions on suicide are all open to interpretation"
i'm an atheist too, but we really shouldn't shit on people's beliefs on a suicide forum. let them have their comforts. it's not like they're going to atheist hell for not believing in atheism... lmao

 

[guayabas]

yeah, it's weird to me that so many ppl dislike christianity bc some christians try to force their religion on other ppl and proselytize, and then they react by trying to force atheism on other ppl and proselytizing lol. You don't have to believe the same thing to be able to offer someone comfort and support. seems like OP was able to let the rudeness and negativity roll off them and focus on the supportive comments though <3

 

[Challu]

Universal salvation. Apokatastasis, or a full restoration. This is what the early Christians believed. There is no such thing as an eternal hell or an eternal lake of fire. Mistranslations have caused people to characterize God as a monstrous being. In actuality Jesus died for the sins of mankind. Through his death, mankind was purchased and forever set free from the division that the first sin caused. So, even murders and rapists will not burn in an eternal Hell. Rather, they will be given a punishment that suits the amount of suffering that they cause on Earth.

The word Hell does not exist in the Bible, the word "Sheol" does. Sheol means "grave".

The phrases forever and ever doesn't exist in the Bible. The word aionius does. Aionius means "age", "age-during", or an "age to age".

The lake of fire is not a literal place. Like the inside of a volcano or the surface of the sun. It symbolizes the method in which God will purge sinfulness from the wicked, in order to restore them back to a good creation.

(The lake of fire with sulfur and brimstone...)
...there are so many terms that have to be dissected.

What is sulfur? What was sulfure used for in Jesus's day?
Why does the "lake" contain sulfur?



Learn about universal salvation. Learn about the purpose of the punishments. Unlearn the lies.

I myself am planning to ctb within the next 2 months. Learning all of this made me want to leave sooner. Even if my suicide has to be punished with a specific time of punishment, it won't be forever.
But ideally, my belief in Christ wouldn't require me to be punished at all. But let God be God. I have my faith He will be kind and just, in whichever way he chooses it

 

[LookAway]

If you read the Bible, suicide is not a sin, murder is a sin, but suicide doesn't count, there are even a few examples of people who did it and don't get 0,01% judged, it's very neutral after all, it's not important what churches or other random religions people say, as a christian the first rule is, to read and understand the Bible, and if it's not in the Bible it could be seen as a "wishy washy" with not a clear answer, it's probably not the best way to go in a christian/religious sense, because usually it's meant to propagate the kingdom of God and stuff, but I think that's an "emergency" and would be surely handled like that, why would you get punished when you do something out of sadness and despair? No father would judge his child like that.

Suicide is MURDER. Murder of the SELF. :)