Discussion Why would you assume death is an escape?

[dogemn]

What makes you think it will bring peace or terminate everything rather than lead to something else entirely? Isn't treating death as the ultimate solution just another form of naïve optimism?

 

[meer]

Okay Emil Cioran

A short history of decay is must read I feel. It hits some points very well, better then Camus, Dostoyevsky, Nietzsche or really any of those guys IMO

 

[abcdefg789]

What sins have you committed that are worth suffering for eternity in hell? I guarantee you NONE! If there is a God who sends people to hell he is an evil bastard. While it could be true that you are going to hell, I will inevitably join you too because I hate God.

oh yes, there are indeed sins that God would send you to hell for. Do not doubt it.

 

[Lost in a Dream]

oh yes, there are indeed sins that God would send you to hell for. Do not doubt it.

That means God is evil then. Fuck him.

 

[iwantangels]

I don't actually hope that death is the end, I just really hope that it will put me in a better place. Delusional, but its all I have.

 

[memento-mori]

because death leaves everything behind

 

[valar_morghulis21]

What makes you think it will bring peace or terminate everything rather than lead to something else entirely? Isn't treating death as the ultimate solution just another form of naïve optimism?

Cease of having self-consciousness (source of suffering here for me) and a physical body. As long as those are gone, people can dig up my corpse and eat it for all I care lol. Something else purely belongs to the metaphysical realm at this point. As someone follows material scientific, I also do not care. In terms of spiritual, I have my ancestors to protect me from any evil, if that exists.

 

[FoolClimax]

I will kill myself a thousand times if I have to.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I will kill myself a thousand times if I have to.

it's only 1 time and i am free forever from the threats of continuous extreme torture, constant unbearable pain , extreme suffering and unimaginable agony. one pull of a trigger for me and eternal freedom and peace forever after that action , freedom from the threat of continuous unbearable pain and from all the evils of life and this evil world . Death is Non-Existence forever.

Eternal Non-Existence : every horror forgotten no more pain , no suffering , no problems no having to fix any problem or get out of bad situations , no worries, no stress , no fear, no diseases, old age, kidnapping torture, depression, 100's more terrible disgusting things like ticks , bacteria parasites, becoming disabled , old , attacks , accidents, brain damage, stroke, heart attack and remaining alive with brain damage, locked in syndrome more...

There is pain so bad one second of it makes everything else meaningless.

why would i want to spend decades risking extreme torture every second ? Death frees me from that danger.

to me this life is similar but worse than being kidnapped and held as a slave tortured beaten abused every day and made to work labor ever day.

who wouldn't want to escape that ? the good thing is being out of that situation because that situation is very bad, hell in fact. if you escape you are getting out of the worst nightmare to freedom . but there is only one way out and that is Death and it gaurantees that you will forget all the trauma of this hell and that you never go back to it again . so why is that not good why is that not an escape? being 90 with pain and immobile with sores all over is not fun. old age is torture. i worked in a nursing home life is hell . Death is the opposite. Non-Existence forever is as good as the worst torture is bad.

i can enjoy knowing that i'm escaping this hell and that i will soon be free and that i'm doing the only rational thing i can do for me which is to exit soon.

 

[pepperfarmer]

If death is the end, then there is no 'peace'. There is nothing. You cannot be at peace if you do not exist.

If it isn't, death frees you from your persona. You're released from what you are. I'd argue this would be a more interesting preposition for people who are suicidal out of guilt or self-loathing than for people who hate life itself.

Either way, suicide is the ultimate voluntary relinquishment of control. I think that is possibly the most enticing thing about it. When you find yourself for whatever reason inadequate to continue your life, you can simply give up any illusion of control and head on early to the greatest unknown. Perhaps it doesn't matter that much anyway, since everybody dies eventually.

 

[interna]

to me, it's not an escape. it's the absence of one. it's the absence of even needing one in the first place. i wouldn't call death an escape but rather the cessation of all possible, livable outcomes.
there's no "escaping" if you're dead .

 

[sobeit0]

I don't think there will be anything. I think when you die it's the end of everything. But, if that isn't the case, and there is something afterwards, I will be an entirely different person. I will have changed life states. Hopefully nothing about the me now stays on.

 

[SilentVelvet]

Is death really an "escape" if it's going to happen anyway? After all, you live for a few years, but you're dead forever. So why shouldn't you be allowed to end your life if you're suffering? I assume there's nothing after death

 

[dogemn]

it's only 1 time and i am free forever from the threats of continuous extreme torture, constant unbearable pain , extreme suffering and unimaginable agony. one pull of a trigger for me and eternal freedom and peace forever after that action , freedom from the threat of continuous unbearable pain and from all the evils of life and this evil world . Death is Non-Existence forever.

Eternal Non-Existence : every horror forgotten no more pain , no suffering , no problems no having to fix any problem or get out of bad situations , no worries, no stress , no fear, no diseases, old age, kidnapping torture, depression, 100's more terrible disgusting things like ticks , bacteria parasites, becoming disabled , old , attacks , accidents, brain damage, stroke, heart attack and remaining alive with brain damage, locked in syndrome more...

There is pain so bad one second of it makes everything else meaningless.

why would i want to spend decades risking extreme torture every second ? Death frees me from that danger.

to me this life is similar but worse than being kidnapped and held as a slave tortured beaten abused every day and made to work labor ever day.

who wouldn't want to escape that ? the good thing is being out of that situation because that situation is very bad, hell in fact. if you escape you are getting out of the worst nightmare to freedom . but there is only one way out and that is Death and it gaurantees that you will forget all the trauma of this hell and that you never go back to it again . so why is that not good why is that not an escape? being 90 with pain and immobile with sores all over is not fun. old age is torture. i worked in a nursing home life is hell . Death is the opposite. Non-Existence forever is as good as the worst torture is bad.

i can enjoy knowing that i'm escaping this hell and that i will soon be free and that i'm doing the only rational thing i can do for me which is to exit soon.

I don't know how this will end. I cannot guarantee that things will become good. But I refuse to regard the present configuration of reality as the final possibility.

 

[starboy2k]

with how my life is currently turning out, I'll take my chances at this point.

 

[lucycelestia]

i wouldn't call it "naive" optimism, it's the last bit of hope for a way out of misery

 

[Ludath]

I don't, but i feel like I'm currently in hell. Whatever death will do can't be worse than this, and if it is, it will be different.