Why sn isnt painful?

[Nobodysfault]

Can someone explain why SN isnt so painful? It sound to me that if you take any other poison with an antiemetic it will feel the same. Painful as shit, cant puke, abdomen pain then lose of conciousness.
Why sn consider to be peaceful?

 

[lastNamePicked]

well, the pph states a peacefulness score of 7/10. but generally that point is the most discussed about SN ...

 

[irrelevant_string]

Can someone explain why SN isnt so painful? It sound to me that if you take any other poison with an antiemetic it will feel the same. Painful as shit, cant puke, abdomen pain then lose of conciousness.
Why sn consider to be peaceful?

I'm not sure either but it probably is painful on its own, not to mention unreliable. Some members say that antacids make it less painful though. That still leaves headache but there are people who claim to have failed with their SN attempt but are still willing to give it another try. That says a lot if these people are being honest.

 

[Morto]

People who already try could come here and tell us

 

[New_dawn_fades]

It doesn't seem as painless to me if you have a look at the symptoms:

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[DoneWithThis]

I think that's a pretty decent peacefulness score. Considering all the factors. Especially being simple to obtain. I mean, it's more bs to get proper antiemetix to go along with it. The anti acid is obviously easy to obtain.

A person or two on here mentioned it was comparable to CO pain wise. Obviously assuming you take all the proper amounts and precautions. That's actually what kind of sold me. And even if it's not exactly that painless, it does seem pretty good all considering. I do wonder how bad the abdominal pain and migraine really is. At worse supposedly you pass out after 40 minutes or less.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

I think a lot of people take a bunch of benzos with the salt to knock themselves out first. The fact of the matter is that a little pain or dysphoria is a small price to pay to end daily pain.

 

[irrelevant_string]

@New_dawn_fades
Yes, but they are only talking about "signs and symptoms of SN poisoning" without mentioning the quantity which could be an important variable here. Taking a sub lethal dose, which usually happens if the poisoning isn't intentional, won't make you lose consciousness so quickly or maybe not at all, so you'll be aware of the whole process, whereas if you deliberately take a lethal dose with the proper anti emetic regime and antacids, and maybe even add benzos, you'll be unconscious pretty quickly.
That's just my take on it, but don't take my word for it. I might just be trying to convince myself that it isn't so bad, without a solid ground.

Edit:My god, I mentioned the wrong person who has a similar name

 

[DoneWithThis]

I definitely agree with both of you. What's some pain in comparison to the agony of living. And from people have said obviously the lethal dose will pass you out unconscious pretty quickly. But makes me wonder if benzos are the factor there. I myself, find it more comforting to think that with a lethal dose of SN, proper antiemetic, acid reducer to speed up absorption, that one does pass out pretty quickly. From the sounds of it, it does sound that way.

 

[New_dawn_fades]

@New_dawn_fades
Yes, but they are only talking about "signs and symptoms of SN poisoning" without mentioning the quantity which could be an important variable here. Taking a sub lethal dose, which usually happens if the poisoning isn't intentional, won't make you lose consciousness so quickly or maybe not at all, so you'll be aware of the whole process, whereas if you deliberately take a lethal dose with the proper anti emetic regime and antacids, and maybe even add benzos, you'll be unconscious pretty quickly.
That's just my take on it, but don't take my word for it. I might just be trying to convince myself that it isn't so bad, without a solid ground.

Edit:My god, I mentioned the wrong person who has a similar name

I'm kind of anxious about failing, I've ordered mine a few days ago but I'm also setting up an Exit Bag with Nitrogen method as it sounds less painful and reliable to me. I guess I will using SN as last resort. I don't have access to benzos unfortunately, that's my main concern. I've experienced those symptoms described there on a OD on other drugs on a previous suicide attempt so I don't really want to go through that again, it makes me scared af. I guess I am carrying fears from my other experiences and that is discouraging me. If you really get to experience that symptoms it is just terrible. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

 

[Morto]

How many mg of benzos is considered a good dose to take prior sn?

 

[DoneWithThis]

Well, I'm sure it depends on many factors. What kind of benzos, bodyweight, personal tolerance. Some people on here have suggested doing a trial run. Taking some and seeing the effect it has on you. How long it takes them to act. Depending if you mix them with alcohol, etc. If I had benzos I'd go for a trial run just to have a real world experience of how they interact with me.

 

[Morto]

Well, I'm sure it depends on many factors. What kind of benzos, bodyweight, personal tolerance. Some people on here have suggested doing a trial run. Taking some and seeing the effect it has on you. How long it takes them to act. Depending if you mix them with alcohol, etc. If I had benzos I'd go for a trial run just to have a real world experience of how they interact with me.

Do you have any idea at least what is considered an tipe of overdose of benzos? How many mg I mean.. Like 10mg or 10 tablets. Any examples I mean, people who already did it, how many mg they took, this kind of thing

 

[DoneWithThis]

Well, here's a link that talks about Xanax OD.

Adcare Substance Abuse Treatment Centers

Addiction Treatment & Substance Abuse Treatment Centers Servicing Massachusetts and Rhode Island

clinicalservicesri.com

And just as a general reference here's one of the many numerous threads on here that might help.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/opioid-alcohol-benzo-overdose.4995/

Of course I'll agree with most people that benzos alone aren't enough to ctb with.

I do hope you find what you're looking for.

 

[Morto]

Thanks for the links. I was just looking for an average, cause i have no idea about amounts and this stuff.. started to take benzos 1 month ago, so im pretty much new to this world. I take like 1mg and feel already the power, cant imagine people saying that they take a whole pack and its not enough to ctb or even that is almost impossible to cbt using benzos.. anyway I was only wondering about a dose that its enough to knock you down and a dose that isnt too much that you cant even handle the sn and the medicines.. the average if you get me

 

[DoneWithThis]

I'm kind of anxious about failing, I've ordered mine a few days ago but I'm also setting up an Exit Bag with Nitrogen method as it sounds less painful and reliable to me. I guess I will using SN as last resort. I don't have access to benzos unfortunately, that's my main concern. I've experienced those symptoms described there on a OD on other drugs on a previous suicide attempt so I don't really want to go through that again, it makes me scared af. I guess I am carrying fears from my other experiences and that is discouraging me. If you really get to experience that symptoms it is just terrible. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

No matter what nerhud we choose. I'm sure we're always going to have that combination of feelings. Happy and relieved to have a way to cash your chips and checkout. But also anxious and worried about failing.

At least you have a backup method just in case.

I think it's extremely necessary to research a method well . But. I think, at some moment, we have to stop researching it. We start getting too anxious about it, nit picking, focusing on the failures, and we start freaking out ourselves.

I think it's nice to have a backup method. Makes you doubt a bit more your first method. But. Nice to have that just in case Plan B.

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

I took it without any antiemetics. Vomited maybe 20 times and had a days long headache. It sounds bad but could be worse.

 

[Ready124]

People who already try could come here and tell us

I failed at SN a couple of weeks back.. I believe it to be my SN lost purity or wasn't pure to start with as I followed everything but woke up a long time later looking grey with a god awful headache which took a while to clear. When I had the SN before I passed out I just felt my heart race abit and felt slightly sick but nothing major. Nothing unbareable. Like I say though I believe my SN wasn't pure so maybe it will be different. Sure I can let you know in the near future haha. X

 

[lastNamePicked]

ifferent. Sure I can let you know in the near future h

why wouldn't it have been pure ?
did you let it get in contact with oxygen ? didn't you pay attention on it's purity when you bought it ?
reports like these disconcern many people actually.

 

[Ready124]

why wouldn't it have been pure ?
did you let it get in contact with oxygen ? didn't you pay attention on it's purity when you bought it ?
reports like these disconcern many people actually.

I never tested it after, I just assumed as it seemed the most likely cause because I did open it and thought maybe I'd not sealed it back up properly. It did state it was pure on the ad.

Rather than get concerned people should take the measures to ensure their SN is pure if they have a slight doubt or even a niggle. @jake3d has added a very detailed post on how to test the purity of SN so there are no concerns.

I didn't.

 

[Morto]

I failed at SN a couple of weeks back.. I believe it to be my SN lost purity or wasn't pure to start with as I followed everything but woke up a long time later looking grey with a god awful headache which took a while to clear. When I had the SN before I passed out I just felt my heart race abit and felt slightly sick but nothing major. Nothing unbareable. Like I say though I believe my SN wasn't pure so maybe it will be different. Sure I can let you know in the near future haha. X

How long later you woke up? Did you go to the hospital? So you are buying another SN to try again, right? Ahh and what abou the amount, how many g?

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

I failed at SN a couple of weeks back.. I believe it to be my SN lost purity or wasn't pure to start with as I followed everything but woke up a long time later looking grey with a god awful headache which took a while to clear. When I had the SN before I passed out I just felt my heart race abit and felt slightly sick but nothing major. Nothing unbareable. Like I say though I believe my SN wasn't pure so maybe it will be different. Sure I can let you know in the near future haha. X

Where did you get your meto from?

 

[Ready124]

How long later you woke up? Did you go to the hospital? So you are buying another SN to try again, right? Ahh and what abou the amount, how many g?

I am yeah I've got more now so will ctb soon ish I woke up probably about 10hours later feeling like I'd been drinking heavily for a month haha. I couldn't tie my hair up because it added to the pressure. I had 20g in 100 water x

Where did you get your meto from?

Messaged you

My goodness. Should I worry about purity now? On ebay I sold only one supplier from Poland SN in a purity of 99.9%.
how to make sure that I am not cheated.
can i trust him?

My goodness. Should I worry about purity now? On ebay I sold only one supplier from Poland SN in a purity of 99.9%.
how to make sure that I am not cheated.
can i trust him?

To be on the safe side I'd suggest following @jake3d post on testing the SN prior. It is really easy to follow and get the parts for.

 

[Morto]

I am yeah I've got more now so will ctb soon ish I woke up probably about 10hours later feeling like I'd been drinking heavily for a month haha. I couldn't tie my hair up because it added to the pressure. I had 20g in 100 water x

Messaged you


To be on the safe side I'd suggest following @jake3d post on testing the SN prior. It is really easy to follow and get the parts for.

Was it a pack/bag sn or bottle sn? And why did you open it? Did you leave for a long time open? It probably became nitrate sodium instead of nitrite

 

[Ready124]

Was it a pack/bag sn or bottle sn? And why did you open it? Did you leave for a long time open? It probably became nitrate sodium instead of nitrite

It was bag which I was originally cautious of but I'm rather desperate at the minute so took in good faith. Opened it out of curiosity and transferred it to another bottle which I don't think was air tight. I believe it because nitrate, It had caution all over it but my state of mine never caught it. Won't make the same mistake twice.

 

[riverstyx]

I'm on the fence regarding SN.

Seems some people have experienced pain, and pain is a no go for me.

I would rather go for an exit bag.

 

[Morto]

I'm on the fence regarding SN.

Seems some people have experienced pain, and pain is a no go for me.

I would rather go for an exit bag.

Is it possible to die without any pain? I dont think so.

 

[DoneWithThis]

I never tested it after, I just assumed as it seemed the most likely cause because I did open it and thought maybe I'd not sealed it back up properly. It did state it was pure on the ad.

Rather than get concerned people should take the measures to ensure their SN is pure if they have a slight doubt or even a niggle. @jake3d has added a very detailed post on how to test the purity of SN so there are no concerns.

I didn't.

Thank you for sharing your experience. It's really nice to get input from people who have tried it. And have input from them, on hat could possibly go wrong, and how to avoid that.

So, yeah, that purity test thing sounds like a good idea. ABut it's probably something I won't due. Since I want to have the SN sealed until the very last moments. If I would test it, I would test not long before using it. So theirs as little contact as possible with oxygen.

Most people seem to suggest fasting for a certain amount of time before taking it so it metabolize faster and gets absorbed by your system better. But I'll probably end up having dinner with my family. One last dinner. And then just fast for a couple of hours at least before I take the antiemetic and acid reducers.

It's nice to see from the people who have attempted SN that the immediate effects of pain aren't all that bed. it seems like if you can get through the initial stage without puking it up, and even if you do puke it up, having a second dose ready. For the most part your pretty good it seems. From the immediate side effects that people talk about it doesn't seem all that bad at all.

 

[littlelady774]

I failed at SN a couple of weeks back.. I believe it to be my SN lost purity or wasn't pure to start with as I followed everything but woke up a long time later looking grey with a god awful headache which took a while to clear. When I had the SN before I passed out I just felt my heart race abit and felt slightly sick but nothing major. Nothing unbareable. Like I say though I believe my SN wasn't pure so maybe it will be different. Sure I can let you know in the near future haha. X

Do you know how long it was until you passed out?

 

[DoneWithThis]

That's a great question. And whatever the answer might be. I'm still sure it varies pretty drastically from person to person. And depending on what antiemetic they took, acid reducer, fasting, amount of liquid was drinked, etc.

But it's still nice to know how long it took before they passed out. Just to have a real world experience reference of how long it takes.

I think in the SN megathread they something like between 20-40 minutes. But it's nice to see real world examples from people we know.