Discussion Why not cyanide?

[wanttodie]

is cyanide not hard to get it

 

[Roberto]

I would not recommend that, I read that its extremely painful.

May be take something for the pain before?

 

[HelensNepenthe]

is cyanide not hard to get it

Hard to get but feasible to get if you know what I mean. having a contact who works in the jewelry business is a way of obtaining it but you'd clearly be risking someone's job. Perhaps even them ending up locked up for assisting in a suicide.

 

[dandan]

I think it's easier to get cyanide than nembutal here in my country

I have 1kg of cyanide, but the seller is o Ky selling by 50kg now, because then his incomplete's his 50kg containers.

Cyanide is not easy to obtain as far as I know, I rather go SN....

Cyanide burns and that's a bitch... Plus who guarantees? Imagine waking up with a hole in your stomach .... Or I dunno.... Screw that.... Screw painful ways to go....

 

[kkatt]

My original choice of method when I first found the pro-choice community had been Cyanide.
This was because I believed it to be just as you see it portrayed in the movies,as used by Nazi war criminals-the painless,lethal,suicide pill.
Take some time to use the information in the resources section. If you've ever heard the recordings from the Jonestown suicide/murders,you can actually hear people crying and screaming with the pain.
I would imagine the guy who had to call a chemical clean up crew had probably used Cyanide gas.
It used to be much easier to obtain,but it was actually one of the first high profile incidents from the online pro-choice community,back in 2003 when it was called ASH,that led to the introduction of new legislation (Suzy's law),which is what has made it so much harder to get a hold of. Suzy Gonzales

 

[Meretlein]

Cyanide trades peacefulness for speed and efficiency. Peacefulness to me and many others is a very important factor. It doesn't matter how effective a method is if you can't bring yourself to do it.

 

[TheRiverStyz]

Most people look for "peaceful" or "painless" methods. I don't really care for this - I care more about the effectiveness, so if cyanide was readily available I'd definitely go for it. Sadly, it's not readily available anywhere.

 

[Arak]

For as far as I know, cyanide is peaceful compared to sodium azide !

 

[dandan]

Most people look for "peaceful" or "painless" methods. I don't really care for this - I care more about the effectiveness, so if cyanide was readily available I'd definitely go for it. Sadly, it's not readily available anywhere.

Gosh , if you are so willing then cyanide not being available is just an excuse

 

[TheRiverStyz]

Gosh , if you are so willing then cyanide not being available is just an excuse

Mate, be respectful or fuck off.

 

[DarkStar1]

'So what makes cyanide a good method?' Speed and lethality. One of the best methods, if you don't mind feelign very intense pain for a short (?) while.
Cyanide would be bliss compared to the brutal sodium azide ...

Cyanide gets a 5/10 for peacefulness and Azide a 6/10 on PPeH. Do you know how long it takes to die from Azide and why it is so brutal? I thought it was a faster acting method than Nitrite.

 

[DyslexicForeigner]

Cyanide gets a 5/10 for peacefulness and Azide a 6/10 on PPeH. Do you know how long it takes to die from Azide and why it is so brutal? I thought it was a faster acting method than Nitrite.

Yeah, we only need to know the timeframe (how many minutes and seconds) between the moment of SA ingestion and death.

Does mr. PN conduct research on this method as well?

 

[GeorgeJL]

I read that some people die agonizing deaths with cyanide but another's get relatively peaceful deaths from it. So it depends from what I've read.

 

[omoidarui]

when i was much younger i collected apple seeds hoping one day i'd have enough to die via cyanide poisoning

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

I would ctb with cyanide if I could only get some.

 

[dandan]

I was

I would ctb with cyanide if I could only get some.

I was able to obtain a kilogram when I found it in a Mexican eBay type of website it's no longer sold .... I could send you a brick or whatever them things are called by... I just never knew how to test it's purity and got afraid but it was a chemical company that's for sure. I have the screenshot of my purchase available just a little tires to get it I want to go to sleep. I'm not planning on using it anymore.
Also bought the nitrogen tank and that I did tried and failed, in giving life one more shot, actually there's something I must do before ctb.....
A bitcoin crowdfunding type of software I designed after working for BofA... That's my obsession .... But I'm not the best programmer , actually I'm not a very good one but I have that system almost working ...well whatever .... Going out for today ....


Good luck whatever path you choose

 

[GeorgeJL]

If anyone finds a source for cyanide please PM me.

 

[NextSummer]

After watching the video, I understand what painlevel PN means when he talks about "peacefulness: 5". It sounds pretty painful to me. I wonder if he has ever watched it.

 

[Soul]

For me the video doesn't say anything either way about how mych pain the man was in or for how long. The setting plays a role too, I think: He's just taken a lethal dose and is reacting to it, but still he's in a courtroom where he's expected to sit up straight and act dignified and so on. Maybe I'm projecting, but he seems to me to be struggling to adhere to some sort of Rules of Behaviour at least as much as he's struggling with pain. If he'd been alone in a hotel room it might have been a quick and nonagonizing death.

Anyway people want different things from their deaths. Some want to go gently, some feel some trauma is warranted, and some want to go waving at bystanders on the way down.

 

[BridgeJumper]

In case anybodys wondering, I studied chem long ago and lethal dose of potassium cyanide for an adult person is about the size of a pennyAlso, following this thread because, interestingA lot of people suicided like this during world war 2, including Hitler, so why not know? They even carried glass vials filled with cyanide to bite down on and immediately die in case of ambush.
That man who died in court, Ive seen this video before. Sucks to be him in these final moments :/

 

[ExitTheDay]

I've read online that it's a really quick death but causes extreme agonizing gastrointestinal discomfort

 

[spanishguy22]

With the discovery of SN honestly I don't think cyanides lack is worth being sad about. I'm thankful for SN

 

[dandan]

I have 1kg of sodium cyanide.... I wish I could give you guys freely away

 

[BridgeJumper]

Promise its not a scam and Ill send you my address damm

 

[eve2004]

Has anyone heard of Bitter Apricot seeds? You can buy them at your local health food store. Stupidly I ordered online, they say 3 kernels can kill you. I tried one, nothing happened. So I bought Laetrile, which is the synthetic version of the substance but in a capsule. I got it online, I have 2 bottles of 100 pills each, 500mg Laetrile.

This has been previously thought to cure cancer but there have been many deaths from this substance and in low doses. There was a reaearch article about a woman who nearly died after taking 3x500mg pills. She got to the hospital on time.

Now I'm fearless because of my high tolerance to meds so i tried 3 pills. Nothing. Tried 3 more a few days later. Still nothing. Just an allergic skin reaction. Has anyone else tried this? If its lethal at 3 pills, hell, I wouldn't mind taking 30-40 if it guarantees death but I personally had no reaction to it.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

'So what makes cyanide a good method?' Speed and lethality. One of the best methods, if you don't mind feelign very intense pain for a short (?) while.
Cyanide would be bliss compared to the brutal sodium azide ...

How do people know how intense the pain is? Have they interviewed someone dying of cyanide poisoning?

Cyanide gets a 5/10 for peacefulness and Azide a 6/10 on PPeH. Do you know how long it takes to die from Azide and why it is so brutal? I thought it was a faster acting method than Nitrite.

I don't totally know where they get the 5/10 number from, either

Again, do they do interviews?

It's possible I suppose that they go by how much your body convulses

For me the video doesn't say anything either way about how mych pain the man was in or for how long. The setting plays a role too, I think: He's just taken a lethal dose and is reacting to it, but still he's in a courtroom where he's expected to sit up straight and act dignified and so on. Maybe I'm projecting, but he seems to me to be struggling to adhere to some sort of Rules of Behaviour at least as much as he's struggling with pain. If he'd been alone in a hotel room it might have been a quick and nonagonizing death.

Anyway people want different things from their deaths. Some want to go gently, some feel some trauma is warranted, and some want to go waving at bystanders on the way down.

I 100% want to go gently

 

[Ghost2211]

As others have said it's fast, but horrible.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

As others have said it's fast, but horrible.

But how do you know it's horrible?

I will say that the few videos I've seen make it seem like the person just collapses, but then you don't see very much of what happens on the ground

 

[Ghost2211]

But how do you know it's horrible?

I will say that the few videos I've seen make it seem like the person just collapses, but then you don't see very much of what happens on the ground

You feel everything before loss of consciousness because it acts quickly. Tissue and organ death hurts.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

You feel everything before loss of consciousness because it acts quickly. Tissue and organ death hurts.

I just don't really buy how you could know that