Why is this world so pro-life and so anti-death ??

[devisdead]

Death, whether involuntary or voluntary, is the most beautiful and natural thing in this world. Everything... I mean EVERYTHING... is heading towards death. Billions of years from now, the sun will die out, planet Earth will turn cold, and one day entire galaxies will collapse and disappear into an infinite nothingness. The entire story of our cosmos is that of a long journey from one nothingness to another. Even if anything new evolves after the final nothingness, that too will die out and disappear one day. What, then, is the value of humans like us in this grand scheme of things? Does it even matter if we exist or not? We are like microscopic organisms in this vast cosmos. A mosquito sits on my hand, and I kill it instantly with one slap. Now tell me: Will this mosquito's soul go to Mosquito Heaven instantly after getting killed? Or will it be reborn into another mosquito and start wriggling as a larva in some other person's backyard? Yes, our beliefs of Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are as stupid and pointless as this example shows. Our biggest problem is: We think ourselves as too important, hence we think it is immensely necessary for humans to survive on this planet instead of just dying out. Survival instinct is a disease, worse than cancer. The cure is a healthy, sensible approach to death.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Cant tax a dead person.

 

[conflagration]

Cant tax a dead person.

You would be surprised, in some countries paying for a place at the cemetery is quite expensive

 

[WorthlessTrash]

You would be surprised, in some countries paying for a place at the cemetery is quite expensive

Yeah and i guess dead people vote so anything is possible.

 

[Anonymus]

The good thing about life is not the destination but the journey until you get there.*
//
El que te de bó la vida no és el destí sino el viatge fins que hi arribes.*

* For those who are lucky
* Per a qui té sort

 

[Exiled spirit]

Most people are cruel, indifferent, and ignorant. Also, the government don't want to lose its slaves.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Because we (sadly) have emotions and memories and ego's that are tied up with other people's lives and memories and ego's. If they die and leave us- we lose the bit of ourselves that was connected to them. We miss them. It's almost entirely selfish but- there we go- that's how we've been designed. We're emotional as well as thinking creatures.

It's debatable if you are 'lucky' and don't make connections to other people. Some people maybe don't, or they've had all bad experiences with other humans. Or- they are so utterly chill that they don't mind people coming and going in their lives.

Awesome- if you can really be that logical- you won't suffer grief. Alternatively- you may not experience love or friendship either- which is the bitter sweet thing that keeps some people glued to life and others heartbroken and wanting to leave it.

Honestly couldn't say which is better but many of us don't seem to have a choice... When people die that we loved- we feel sad about it. Maybe you're able to logic your way out but I personally can't... I still grieve for all of those I have lost- whether it's logical or not.

 

[FuneralCry]

Maybe it's because that deep down, many people fear our inevitable fate so they place so much value and emphasis onto something so useless and insignificant as life to the point that they see life as being something to be prolonged at all costs. People delude themselves into thinking that to die is the worst thing but yet that is completely irrational thinking, as to die solves all problems and there are simply no disadvantages to being dead.

But for many people the thought of someone voluntarily preferring death over life scares them as it shatters their worldview and delusional beliefs that life is always worth enduring no matter what. It's tragic in fact that people continue to glorify life to such an extreme extent as the fact that suicide is so stigmatised means that people will suffer unnecessarily due to being denied more peaceful method options. It's insanity to me the way that suicide is viewed in society and how something so normal as death is denied from us.

But I guess that the society needs it's slaves and many people so selfishly don't wish to lose those they know. It's like they forget that all that we are destined for is to die anyway, grief and loss are an inevitable part of life which is completely inescapable. I also see death as being so beautiful, there is beauty in the inability to be tortured, and the reality is that life itself will always be the true problem as it's the source of all pain and torment. When life is the problem, then only death could ever be the solution. Yes, survival instinct is certainly a disease.

 

[Himalayan]

Due to our culture and values, what else. Suicide was allowed, even assisted in previous societies.

 

[resolutory]

I think it's mainly due to a mixture of a misinterpretation of survival instinct and, of course, most societies being founded or influenced by religion. But, just as our modern societies have ridded themselves of religious ideas now considered archaic, I suspect that eventually the world will rid themselves of these shackles too and think like us.

 

[devisdead]

Maybe it's because that deep down, many people fear our inevitable fate so they place so much value and emphasis onto something so useless and insignificant as life to the point that they see life as being something to be prolonged at all costs. People delude themselves into thinking that to die is the worst thing but yet that is completely irrational thinking, as to die solves all problems and there are simply no disadvantages to being dead.

But for many people the thought of someone voluntarily preferring death over life scares them as it shatters their worldview and delusional beliefs that life is always worth enduring no matter what. It's tragic in fact that people continue to glorify life to such an extreme extent as the fact that suicide is so stigmatised means that people will suffer unnecessarily due to being denied more peaceful method options. It's insanity to me the way that suicide is viewed in society and how something so normal as death is denied from us.

But I guess that the society needs it's slaves and many people so selfishly don't wish to lose those they know. It's like they forget that all that we are destined for is to die anyway, grief and loss are an inevitable part of life which is completely inescapable. I also see death as being so beautiful, there is beauty in the inability to be tortured, and the reality is that life itself will always be the true problem as it's the source of all pain and torment. When life is the problem, then only death could ever be the solution. Yes, survival instinct is certainly a disease.

I always appreciate long replies to my posts. It shows that the person replying has read my post attentively and considered it worthy to be replied to, and more thoroughly than expected. Thanks a ton for the reply, and for the new inputs it provides to my thoughts.

 

[TAW122]

I think it's mainly due to a mixture of a misinterpretation of survival instinct and, of course, most societies being founded or influenced by religion. But, just as our modern societies have ridded themselves of religious ideas now considered archaic, I suspect that eventually the world will rid themselves of these shackles too and think like us.

I certainly hope that is the case, because human secularists exist (humanism) and they are oftenly pro-life when it comes to living at (just about) all costs. They are quite a problem even without religion being present and I hope there is a way to prevent them from gaining power and imposing their worldview on everyone..

 

[sapphoslastpoem]

Because the rich need more people to steal more money from

 

[LaVieEnRose]

The majoriyy of people want to live. That is what is natural and normal. The relative brevity and insignificance of human life make them cherish life more rather than less. I sure wish I hadn't felt my hand was forced and ended up here.

 

[Jarni]

I think that The Will to live is a real thing... I like very much how Shopenhauer developed this concept in his book The World as Will and Representation.

Will to live - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

"The will to live or Wille zum Leben is a concept developed by the German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, Will being an irrational "blind incessant impulse without knowledge" that drives instinctive behaviors, causing an endless insatiable striving in human existence, without which Nature could not exist.

This has nothing to do with the concept of the will to survive used in psychology, which is discussed further below in this article, since Schopenhauer was talking about the basic unit behind doing or thinking anything at all, not the basic drive behind running or fighting under life-threatening conditions (which in his terms would be a dissimulation of the mere blind striving for existence without goal, that is, a theatrical performance of Nature in its ever changing forms of matter).

There are significant correlations between the will to live and existential, psychological, social, and physical sources of distress.[1]​ Many, who overcome near-death experiences with no explanation, have described the will to live as a direct component of their survival.[2]​ The difference between the wish to die versus the wish to live is also a unique risk factor for suicide."

 

[LifeCanBeCruel]

I think it's a mixture between fear of death and an ignorance of how horrible life can potentially become, or if not ignorance, a hubris to believe that anyone can overcome anything no matter how dire the circumstance are (unless terminal).

 

[Rainy_days]

The dead cannot speak to tell us whether their state is better or worse than ours.

 

[UKscotty]

Because 1% of humanity lives in extreme luxury on the backs of the other 99%. Most of whom dont even realise they are slaves to the system.

 

[spinningship]

Neurotypical people tend to be irrational

 

[DominionMinion]

Animal instinct to be scared of death in all its forms. Skulls are scary, the darkness is scary, suicide is scary... it's just apes freaking out.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Most people want to live and thrive and want the same for their loved ones.

 

[Onw9]

I think that The Will to live is a real thing... I like very much how Shopenhauer developed this concept in his book The World as Will and Representation.

Will to live - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

"The will to live or Wille zum Leben is a concept developed by the German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, Will being an irrational "blind incessant impulse without knowledge" that drives instinctive behaviors, causing an endless insatiable striving in human existence, without which Nature could not exist.

This has nothing to do with the concept of the will to survive used in psychology, which is discussed further below in this article, since Schopenhauer was talking about the basic unit behind doing or thinking anything at all, not the basic drive behind running or fighting under life-threatening conditions (which in his terms would be a dissimulation of the mere blind striving for existence without goal, that is, a theatrical performance of Nature in its ever changing forms of matter).

There are significant correlations between the will to live and existential, psychological, social, and physical sources of distress.[1]​ Many, who overcome near-death experiences with no explanation, have described the will to live as a direct component of their survival.[2]​ The difference between the wish to die versus the wish to live is also a unique risk factor for suicide."

Schopenhauer was a genius. The concept of the 'will' which appears in ourselves and how it manifest itself and not even intellect can reason against it is so true.

 

[Darkover]

well put

 

[foreverfalling]

Perhaps it is because only the pro-life survive. The ones that stop at nothing to ensure their own continued survival, are the ones we see now to perpetuate the cycle. Their genetics have been selected for this. All the people that are not pro-life would be weeded out, either by the the rest of the world to ensure its own survival, or themselves.