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gonnadiehopefully

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Aug 29, 2026
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Why is the world so cruel that we all are thinking of not being alive?
 
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devils~advocate

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Feb 29, 2024
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I think the physical world is neutral. Human psychology sees it though as being cruel.
If its about others and our interactions that can be cruel, I can understand that position.
People have the capacity for both cruelty and kindness.

Sometimes the people who you trust, care for, love....can bring you sadness.....and we can see them as being cruel.
I guess having this as a possibility can be seen as a cruel, in a world of indifference.
 
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hdead

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Jun 2, 2026
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I think the physical world is neutral. Human psychology sees it though as being cruel.
If its about others and our interactions that can be cruel, I can understand that position.
People have the capacity for both cruelty and kindness.

Sometimes the people who you trust, care for, love....can bring you sadness.....and we can see them as being cruel.
I guess having this as a possibility can be seen as a cruel, in a world of indifference.
Neutral? I don't think so. Indifferent is a more fitting term I'd say. Maybe balanced, you could make an argument for that. But this crap is not neutral at all.
 
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devils~advocate

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Neutral? I don't think so. Indifferent is a more fitting term I'd say. Maybe balanced, you could make an argument for that. But this crap is not neutral at all.
The physical world has no malice or intention. I see indifferent as the same as neutral.
Other people, I can see where this is not the case. People can be cruel and everything that goes along with it.
But I get where one can see the world as indifferent or neutral to the point that it can be a nightmare and a horrible existence.
i guess its also based on what specifically about the world you are referring to as well.
 
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hdead

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The physical world has no malice or intention. I see indifferent as the same as neutral.
Other people, I can see where this is not the case. People can be cruel and everything that goes along with it.
But I get where one can see the world as indifferent or neutral to the point that it can be a nightmare and a horrible existence.
i guess its also based on what specifically about the world you are referring to as well.
Ah therein lies the difference. Indifference and neutrality do not mean the same thing to me. The world can be cruel and indifferent, or loving and indifferent. Both are not necessarily neutral in my eyes.
 
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FuneralCry

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Sep 24, 2020
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It truly is the most terrible, cruel place with all this endless suffering and torture with no limit as to how much agony one can feel and I'll just always see this existence as a mistake, all I want is to be permanently free from the abomination of existence that only ever tortures existing beings all for the sake of it. For me non-existence is just all that's positive, only in non-existence will I finally be at peace from this existence so futile and torturous but of course this existence never should had been imposed at all.
 
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gonnadiehopefully

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It truly is the most terrible, cruel place with all this endless suffering and torture with no limit as to how much agony one can feel and I'll just always see this existence as a mistake, all I want is to be permanently free from the abomination of existence that only ever tortures existing beings all for the sake of it. For me non-existence is just all that's positive, only in non-existence will I finally be at peace from this existence so futile and torturous but of course this existence never should had been imposed at all.
Hugs. I agree to some extent.
I hope you find peace. I don't know if it is in non existence or not.
 
Lost in a Dream

Lost in a Dream

He/him - Metal head
Feb 22, 2020
2,409
I really wish I had the answer but I don't know if I do. Some people believe in God, and I say if he exists then all the evil and cruelty is his fault. Why else would animals be eating each other alive and getting tortured in nature because of it? Why else would they be tortured and murdered by the billions in factory farms? Why else would people be suffering so badly that they are on a suicide forum?

You can blame most of the cruelty on people sure, because they do commit terrible acts of evil all the time, whether they are in positions of power or not, but people can't be blamed for natural disasters existing, or for animals eating each other alive. Those things had to have been caused by something else. Nature itself is just plain horrid. Our world feels like something out of a horror novel that was written by the most creative, yet sadistic mind that ever could've existed.
 
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