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If the lethal dose of SN is 2g, and people are warned not to test small doses of SN because it's so lethal, why is 25g recommended for ctb? It seems like even 5g would be overkill, and it seems like the more you take the more likely it is you'll bring it all up.
 
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GoingAwayParty

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Total novice here, but I think it's simply a matter of 2gs being potentially lethal, while 25gs will absolutely kill you without outside intervention.
 
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Total novice here, but I think it's simply a matter of 2gs being potentially lethal, while 25gs will absolutely kill you without outside intervention.
I agree with GoingAwayParty, sounds reasonable enough.
Different tolerances and metabolisms would also be at play. 2g may be lethal for one person but not another person, and there's no way to know. But 25g would be lethal for everyone.
 
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What about 10 or 15g, especially for someone who doesn't have meto? It seems like there should be a compromise that is less likely to cause vomiting.
 
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It also depends on your weight.
 
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Graytaichi

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And the main ingredients SN. The purity of the SN ,noone brought out SN purchase might be mixed with salt a purity test is highly recommended. Do a blood test instead of a aquarium test , if the blood turns brownish instantly most likely its pure to suicide. Number of people not returning doesnt mean they succeed there are many reasons but its a good indication its lethal.
 
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What about 10 or 15g, especially for someone who doesn't have meto? It seems like there should be a compromise that is less likely to cause vomiting.
I have thought about this too and i agree with you. If 2g could potentially kill you, 10-15g should be almost guaranteed death if you just keep it in your body and not throw it all up. SN is my second method after hanging, and i don't have access AE so it sounds more reasonable to take 10-15g instead of 20-25g.
 
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I have thought about this too and i agree with you. If 2g could potentially kill you, 10-15g should be almost guaranteed death if you just keep it in your body and not throw it all up. SN is my second method after hanging, and i don't have access AE so it sounds more reasonable to take 10-15g instead of 20-25g.
Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking about this. It seems like the more you ingest the more likely it is you will vomit. But I don't know if SN is so foul that 10g is just as bad as 25g in terms of how it hits your stomach.
 
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sunny/omori

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I was wondering the same. Als, the more you ingest will make the side effects worse.
 
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If the lethal dose of SN is 2g, and people are warned not to test small doses of SN because it's so lethal, why is 25g recommended for ctb? It seems like even 5g would be overkill, and it seems like the more you take the more likely it is you'll bring it all up.
2g of SN could be potentially lethal, but would not necessarily be be enough to kill everyone. I think that 2g of SN is the lowest known lethal dose. 20-25 g of SN is recommended, because it is overkill and will be enough to kill anyone without medical intervention. Also it is recommended to take the higher dose, because it will kill you faster and be more peaceful vs taking a smaller dose which will take longer to work and cause you draw out your death and suffer more.

You need to take an antiemetic before taking the SN or you will vomit it up. There are a lot of SN threads you can read if you use the search bar. It seems that many people who took SN vomited some whether they took an antiemetic or not. Even if you take a lower dose like 10-15g you could still vomit without an antiemetic. If you add table salt to a cup of water, it will make you throw up.
 
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Aug 21, 2021
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If the lethal dose of SN is 2g, and people are warned not to test small doses of SN because it's so lethal, why is 25g recommended for ctb? It seems like even 5g would be overkill, and it seems like the more you take the more likely it is you'll bring it all up.
The speed and quantity of SN absorbed and transfused into the blood is directly proportional to the peacefulness and efficiency of SN.
So consuming more SN would be essential even if the person vomits because the probability of absorbing a lethal amount of SN is higher.

It's just my opinion you can try consuming less if you think you'll get the desired result.

I have thought about consuming small amounts of SN periodically leading up to unconsciousness but there's no thread of information about that online
 
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Apr 3, 2022
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If you take too much SN it will convert to NO and dilate your vessels leading to headhache, palpitations, dizzyness besides nausea and stomach pain. I think that is the reason some reports no syntoms and others suffer a lot. You dont have so much hemoglobin in the blood to need so much SN in the first place. There is no way to know the ideal SN dose though.
 
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DPJ187

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Apr 14, 2022
128
It's the only relatively simple and painless methidnwe have left. Our caring governments force us to become criminals to have a peaceful death, the fact that someone who paid taxes his whole life, never had so much as a speeding ticket, is forced to do this is criminal, i demand the right to a peaceful death wheever I choose. I will not however let you stop me, if I am forced to stop my peaceful CTB, then I shall no longer go out peacefully, I will fight to the death to stop these idiotic jailers from forcing me into servitude. I will be free
 
Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
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If you take too much SN it will convert to NO and dilate your vessels leading to headhache, palpitations, dizzyness besides nausea and stomach pain. I think that is the reason some reports no syntoms and others suffer a lot. You dont have so much hemoglobin in the blood to need so much SN in the first place. There is no way to know the ideal SN dose though.
This is why you are supposed to neutralize the stomach acid with an antacid or take something to stop the production of or lower it
BTW I could be mistaken but i.coretty sure the original recommended dose in one of the older PPeH was 5-7 grams right? Or was it higher?
 
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WorthlessTrash

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Apr 19, 2022
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This is why you are supposed to neutralize the stomach acid with an antacid or take something to stop the production of or lower it
BTW I could be mistaken but i.coretty sure the original recommended dose in one of the older PPeH was 5-7 grams right? Or was it higher?
I believe it's 25-30 depending on weight.
 
Shu

Shu

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Jan 21, 2022
2,487
I believe it's 25-30 depending on weight.
This is from the recent PPeH I am talking about the older one as I said above. The dose was originally way lower than what it is today.
 
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WorthlessTrash

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Apr 19, 2022
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This is from the recent PPeH I am talking about the older one as I said above. The dose was originally way lower than what it is today.
Wonder why the dose changed.
 
Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,487
No idea I feel that taking a smaller dose may take longer but it could also be more peaceful as the symptoms may not be as strong but I don't know. Im going with the 25 grams regardless. Don't listen to me. I'm a degenerate fool.
 
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WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,431
No idea I know that taking a smaller dose may take longer but it could also be more peaceful as the symptoms may not be as strong but I don't know. Im going with the 25 grams regardless.
30 for me since im around the 300 LBS mark.
 
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