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It's seen as not as peaceful as the other methods in the PPeH
 
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hdead

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It´s straight up poison that makes you go hypoxic. It makes you nauseas, gives you tachycardia and a headache. Supposedly you'll feel symptoms for 20-40 minutes before you lose consciousness. You can manage some of the symptoms with some medication, but if you read all the reports you can definitely understand why the peacefulness only gets a 6.

I'm not too sure why the reliability isn't higher, since if you follow the protocol is pretty much a guaranteed CTB.
 
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Other cannot be get. Try to get all the rest, it is so complicated to have that many drugs for the 5DDMaPH
 
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I was wondering, is the benzo's to knock you out or to make it more doable and stay calm. Because 12 to 20 minutes of heart racing and dizzy poisoned feeling is a lot. I can imgaine 10 times 50mg oxazepam can make you fall asleep before you have the sensation of basically dying or body shutting off.
 
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hdead

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I was wondering, is the benzo's to knock you out or to make it more doable and stay calm. Because 12 to 20 minutes of heart racing and dizzy poisoned feeling is a lot. I can imgaine 10 times 50mg oxazepam can make you fall asleep before you have the sensation of basically dying or body shutting off.
I think a combination of both. I never took that amount of benzos at once, but I would also imagine a longer acting benzo like diazepam would be a better bet. It should knock you out within 15 minutes, but that would also be enough time to experience symptoms. A dose of propanolol could help with that - and maybe trying to time the benzos a few minutes ahead of actually drinking the SN. It can get quite complicated.
 
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I think a combination of both. I never took that amount of benzos at once, but I would also imagine a longer acting benzo like diazepam would be a better bet. It should knock you out within 15 minutes, but that would also be enough time to experience symptoms. A dose of propanolol could help with that - and maybe trying to time the benzos a few minutes ahead of actually drinking the SN. It can get quite complicated.
Thanks for the advice. I did take 10 50mg oxazepam once, it knocked me out and was rushed tot the hospital years ago. Like you say timing is important. It feels impossible to get propanol though. Any advice is welcome.
 
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hdead

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Thanks for the advice. I did take 10 50mg oxazepam once, it knocked me out and was rushed tot the hospital years ago. Like you say timing is important. It feels impossible to get propanol though. Any advice is welcome.
I got my propanolol from DH. Annoying to set up, but once you get it going it's like ordering from amazon. Make sure you check out vendor reviews before spending a bunch of Monero though.

Also, good to know that 10x50mg oxa knocks you out. I have all the benzos I need in that case. Do you remember how long it took for them to make you pass out?
 
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No I cant remember, but it would be the normal effect times 10. You could look it up how fast acting a oxazepam is. Myself I am thinking of taking the benzos first en then the SN. Still have to sit up a bit in bed.
 
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I got my propanolol from DH. Annoying to set up, but once you get it going it's like ordering from amazon. Make sure you check out vendor reviews before spending a bunch of Monero though.

Also, good to know that 10x50mg oxa knocks you out. I have all the benzos I need in that case. Do you remember how long it took for them to make you pass out?
I couldnt figure out what DH is lol
 
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In the new online edition of PPHE, there is a 17-page attachment on SN that updates the table as follows. RP Test Annex PPHE 26
 
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Does anyone know if the nausea we get from Sn it's similar to the one we get from intravenous contrast like when we do a CT test?
 
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Leave_quietly_71

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Where are those pages?
Where are those pages?
I think it's visible only in the online edition; at the end of the book there are several appendices, and one of them concerns SN. In the book, the ranking remains unchanged as in the previous editions.
Thanks, really nice info. Any more updates on SN and use of beta blockers?
In the first photo (2 pages), what is reported in PPHE_26. In the second and third photos, what is reported in the appendix of the same edition. 1 B Blockers PPHE26 2 B Blockesrs PPHE26 Annex1 3 B Blockesrs PPHE26 Annex2
 
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