Why is F not the go to?

[Whynot32]

I can't seem to grasp why more people are choosing SN, or anything, over F. It seems SN takes a long time and your just sitting there knowing what you did is going to kill you and from some first hand experiences on here it seems unpleasant.

Maybe it's just a personal thing but knowing that I'm dying and a painful death just seem abhorrent to me. I get that there is a risk of failure with OD but I just can't imagine anyone surviving a couple grams of F.

I've talked about it a couple times on here and I must be missing something. I really think a gravity fed IV bag filled with two grams of F just seems like it would be easy to obtain (dark markets for F, online for IV equipment) less than $300, extremely painless and you wouldn't even realize you were going except for the initial few seconds. I've thought about being discovered, but that's not an issue for me. I'm not quite sure what the issue is with being discovered for most, unless you want to be found. There's plenty of woods out there.

what am I missing here?

 

[WhyIsLife56]

The cost? And plus there are people that don't mind a little bit of pain as long as it does its job

 

[cosmicpixiedust]

I think a lot of people don't want to bother with the dark net or dealers either.

 

[Grandexit]

For me, I ordered SN and meto on popular shopping sites. No more trouble than ordering a book or clothing.

F... that's onion patch stuff...making sure I don't get scammed, that I get opsec right, getting monero, learning how to inject drugs, avoiding love letters from postal inspectors... So it's a job in progress.

 

[Whynot32]

For me, I ordered SN and meto on popular shopping sites. No more trouble than ordering a book or clothing.

F... that's onion patch stuff...making sure I don't get scammed, that I get opsec right, getting monero, learning how to inject drugs, avoiding love letters from postal inspectors... So it's a job in progress.

That all seems worthwhile to me to insure a pain free and quick death. To each their own I guess.

 

[MysticPerception]

Everyone before me makes great points so I'll just add that yeah until the method becomes infinitely easier to obtain for the average person it's not going to be popular. SN is extremely easy to get depending on where you live and it requires little to no effort in those cases. F requires not only effort but going out of your way to do something you've probably never done before to get some. That can be scary for people especially for some who find themselves here at the end of their rope wanting to just end things without having to take any more big risks or do something completely new and unfamiliar. SN is an easy grab that almost guarantees a peaceful end if not found. So it's just going to win out for now and probably for the foreseeable future.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

You seem to not have done your research well to be asking this kind of question.

 

[OvertheRainbeaux]

Well for me I wouldn't be able to do F just because it's extremely hard to find that around where I am. Plus I don't want to mess with the dark web like someone else mentioned up there ^ if it was easily accessible tho I would most likely prefer that method because I've seen some posts about SN on here and it really doesn't seem like the best way to go, but it is easy to get and has a high success rate.

 

[Whitewash11235814]

SN lost its reliability to me long time ago. I don't trust that stuff for various reasons. I may give a massive dose of F a try. It'd have to be a huge dose or otherwise I wouldn't even touch it. It'd suck to fail an attempt and be hospitalized a fucking 10th time. You know, there comes a time when enough is enough.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

SN lost its reliability to me long time ago. I don't trust that stuff for various reasons. I may give a massive dose of F a try. It'd have to be a huge dose or otherwise I wouldn't even touch it. It'd suck to fail an attempt and be hospitalized a fucking 10th time. You know, there comes a time when enough is enough.

Why did it lose its reliability?

 

[Whitewash11235814]

my preferred method: a bullet in my head. lol

Why did it lose its reliability?

personal reasons that I rather not mention here.

 

[mathieu]

Where I live the only F available you must buy a huge quantity worth AU$13,000. Certainly out of my price range.

 

[Zoltiel]

I can't seem to grasp why more people are choosing SN, or anything, over F. It seems SN takes a long time and your just sitting there knowing what you did is going to kill you and from some first hand experiences on here it seems unpleasant.

Maybe it's just a personal thing but knowing that I'm dying and a painful death just seem abhorrent to me. I get that there is a risk of failure with OD but I just can't imagine anyone surviving a couple grams of F.

I've talked about it a couple times on here and I must be missing something. I really think a gravity fed IV bag filled with two grams of F just seems like it would be easy to obtain (dark markets for F, online for IV equipment) less than $300, extremely painless and you wouldn't even realize you were going except for the initial few seconds. I've thought about being discovered, but that's not an issue for me. I'm not quite sure what the issue is with being discovered for most, unless you want to be found. There's plenty of woods out there.

what am I missing here?

I've chosen F and am wondering the same thing. I had no problem putting in a little bit of extra work to make sure I get the most peaceful death possible. Not gonna lie though, it wasn't easy and I can see how it can put off a lot of people. You've gotta remember too, a lot of people here are brain damaged, and the last thing they want to do is figure out computer stuff.

Do you have experience with needles for the IV? I think I'm just gonna snort it

 

[cosmicpixiedust]

Also in a lot of places there's an Fentanyl epidemic going around because they're in an opioid crisis. While this would obviously make it easier to get, it would probably make the laws be more strict on it and that could be another reason people might not want to mess with it. SN is legal in most places as well as easy to get.

 

[Reallyreallyreally]

I can't seem to grasp why more people are choosing SN, or anything, over F. It seems SN takes a long time and your just sitting there knowing what you did is going to kill you and from some first hand experiences on here it seems unpleasant.

Maybe it's just a personal thing but knowing that I'm dying and a painful death just seem abhorrent to me. I get that there is a risk of failure with OD but I just can't imagine anyone surviving a couple grams of F.

I've talked about it a couple times on here and I must be missing something. I really think a gravity fed IV bag filled with two grams of F just seems like it would be easy to obtain (dark markets for F, online for IV equipment) less than $300, extremely painless and you wouldn't even realize you were going except for the initial few seconds. I've thought about being discovered, but that's not an issue for me. I'm not quite sure what the issue is with being discovered for most, unless you want to be found. There's plenty of woods out there.

what am I missing here?

I assume you live in an urban area. It's only easy to get if you live in a city and are friends with addicts, plus you have to have some idea how to hit a vein, which most people don't. I've never done it but I've watched plenty of other people do it, so I could, but I like the technicality of setting up the exit bag. Arms are so fleshy.

 

[TheEndof]

It all comes down to ease of access. SN is infinitely easier to obtain than F. It only makes sense that it would be more popular. Not much else to it.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Someone actually said something similar but from the N perspective. I told them that if it were that easy, everybody would be using it by now.

 

[Whynot32]

I've chosen F and am wondering the same thing. I had no problem putting in a little bit of extra work to make sure I get the most peaceful death possible. Not gonna lie though, it wasn't easy and I can see how it can put off a lot of people. You've gotta remember too, a lot of people here are brain damaged, and the last thing they want to do is figure out computer stuff.

Do you have experience with needles for the IV? I think I'm just gonna snort it

No I do not, I was planning on going to hospital and getting and iv in place and just unplugging bag and leaving. Ridiculous but, it will work just fine.

 

[MsMaudlin]

As an average British woman I would have no clue where to obtain F, never mind setting up an IV.
It was so easy ordering SN and Primperan, straight to my front door for very little financial outlay.
Peace and love ❤

 

[Whynot32]

I assume you live in an urban area. It's only easy to get if you live in a city and are friends with addicts, plus you have to have some idea how to hit a vein, which most people don't. I've never done it but I've watched plenty of other people do it, so I could, but I like the technicality of setting up the exit bag. Arms are so fleshy.

No I am not urban, quite the opposite. 2,000 people in my home town and I don't have any connects but I do know how to use the dark market.
I'm considering doing a post on how to. Seems people think it is much harder than it actually is.

Someone actually said something similar but from the N perspective. I told them that if it were that easy, everybody would be using it by now.

It is that easy. Dark markets are not as hard to use than people think.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

It is that easy. Dark markets are not as hard to use than people think.

People don't want to take risks like that. Like trying to commit suicide without being found is a big risk as it is for some people.
Have you not done your research or something?

 

[Whynot32]

You seem to not have done your research well to be asking this kind of question.

I think I've done enough to know it's not for me. Fasting, taking medications for days beforehand and not to mention the recent first hand experience of one user video chatting with another who used this method and it sounding really unpleasant. Yes, it's affordable and easy access, so is a rope. Sounds unpleasant and I don't really want my throat burning while I pass.

People don't want to take risks like that. Like trying to commit suicide without being found is a big risk as it is for some people.
Have you not done your research or something?

Second time you've mentioned not doing my research. I am asking for opinion not criticism.

 

[goomsoom]

I think a lot of people don't want to bother with the dark net or dealers either.

This I am worried about getting scammed and if it gets stuck at customs.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I think I've done enough to know it's not for me. Fasting, taking medications for days beforehand and not to mention the recent first hand experience of one user video chatting with another who used this method and it sounding really unpleasant. Yes, it's affordable and easy access, so is a rope. Sounds unpleasant and I don't really want my throat burning while I pass.

Looks like you have a big intolerance to pain and discomfort and you use your emotions before logic on how the body and Methomoglobinemia works.

 

[Whynot32]

I think I've done enough to know it's not for me. Fasting, taking medications for days beforehand and not to mention the recent first hand experience of one user video chatting with another who used this method and it sounding really unpleasant. Yes, it's affordable and easy access, so is a rope. Sounds unpleasant and I don't really want my throat burning while I pass.

Second time you've mentioned not doing my research. I am asking for opinion not criticism. Done plenty of research, seems to me that I could say the dame

Looks like you have a big intolerance to pain and discomfort and you use your emotions before logic on how the body and Methomoglobinemia works.

Taking ones life is fucking emotional, what the fuck do you expect? Doesn't everyone on here have an intolerance to pain and discomfort? Is that not why most of us are here? I don't need your snarky bullshit, please move on.

This I am worried about getting scammed and if it gets stuck at customs.

I can understand that. One thing though is if you use a proper market and purchase from your country you won't need to worry about customs. Seller ratings are a just as reliable as eBay ratings.

 

[Reallyreallyreally]

No I am not urban, quite the opposite. 2,000 people in my home town and I don't have any connects but I do know how to use the dark market.
I'm considering doing a post on how to. Seems people think it is much harder than it actually is.

It is that easy. Dark markets are not as hard to use than people think.

OK, so how do you do it? Like everything else, it's easy if you know how. I don't know how.

 

[Whynot32]

OK, so how do you do it?

I believe I'm going to do a thread on it. It took me maybe 15 minutes total to download everything and get on a good market, find a good vendor. I would say the entire process for someone who hasn't done it before may take 2 hours.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

If one is willing to die, one should be able to go through a little bit of pain to do it. It's all about the dedication and determination.

 

[Backwood_tilt]

You guys are turning me around to it as a potential backup.

 

[MysticPerception]

If one is willing to die, one should be able to go through a little bit of pain to do it. It's all about the dedication and determination.

Pretty much this. Oh no my throat and stomach will hurt for 20 minutes. Big deal I deal with that all the time in my daily life that is pure suffering. I've said it multiple times before and I'll say it again. A few minutes of pain is all it takes to end your suffering forever.

Mind you I'm not downplaying OP's method of using the dark net to get F. If he makes a guide and it helps people I'm all for that I just wanted to point out that @WhyIsLife56 is right and some people are willing to put up with the pain.