Discussion Why does Vizzy's guide recommend such high benzo dosage and mixing it with water even though it is not water soluble and why after taking sn?

[HopefulSleep]

Vizzy's guide recommends blackout doses for benzos and consuming it after the sn, but why if the sn makes you unconscious faster before the benzo effects start?
And even if the benzos act before the sn it wouldn't be good to pass out from that cause you can't drink a second glass then.
And why mixing it with water even though the benzos he listed aren't water soluble?
For me it is more logical to take a medium benzo dose and wait until it kicks in and then take the sn.

 

[Kerrtu]

I think Vizzy may have been under the assumption many of us have either easy-ish access to benzos from a connect, or have legit scripts, therefore "go all out" so to speak. Vizzy and I didn't agree on all points of the SN method though I respected all of the effort he put out in guide form - he was hoping his efforts would be pinned at least. I don't know exactly what happened, but I assume Vizzy tasted the SN mixture and vomited.

Instead of a second glass, which he had prepared, he went with the nitrogen method after all. He was very well versed with the nitrogen method - more so than SN, though he knew quite a bit about SN as well.

Anyhow, I'm prescribed 3mg Klonopin per day but when I CTB with SN, I'll be benzo'ing it up and letting it all sink in before I start swigging.

Thinking of you, Vizzy

(We used to talk about what we'd do if we had one day to spend together and I told him I'd just like to sit by the water and eat mango, talk if we wanted, or just watch the ocean and the sunset. He was always so respectful with me and kind, and funny)

 

[HopefulSleep]

I think Vizzy may have been under the assumption many of us have either easy-ish access to benzos from a connect, or have legit scripts, therefore "go all out" so to speak. Vizzy and I didn't agree on all points of the SN method though I respected all of the effort he put out in guide form - he was hoping his efforts would be pinned at least. I don't know exactly what happened, but I assume Vizzy tasted the SN mixture and vomited.

It is easy to get many benzos if you have enough money.
I don't understand, why didn't he just use nitrogen on itself instead of trying sn before?

Anyhow, I'm prescribed 3mg Klonopin per day but when I CTB with SN, I'll be benzo'ing it up and letting it all sink in before I start swigging.

How much will you take for sn regimen?

(We used to talk about what we'd do if we had one day to spend together and I told him I'd just like to sit by the water and eat mango, talk if we wanted, or just watch the ocean and the sunset. He was always so respectful with me and kind, and funny)

Yea Vizzy is kind I know him since he joined, good person, I miss hm but maybe I will know him again soon.

 

[Kerrtu]

It is easy to get many benzos if you have enough money.
I don't understand, why didn't he just use nitrogen on itself instead of trying sn before?

How much will you take for sn regimen?

Yea Vizzy is kind I know him since he joined, good person, I miss hm but maybe I will know him again soon.

Where I am, it's not easy to get benzos by prescription, and the street gets expensive.

As far as Vizzy's final method - he had 3 choices. Jumping would've been his least desirable choice. I believe he wanted to try the SN method and see, or rather taste it for himself. The SN he had was a lower purity than mine - I remember him getting a kick out of that.

I don't know for certain if he vomited - it makes sense to me, as many people do vomit despite their best efforts to avoid. Vizzy even had meto. But, something went wrong during his SN attempt. What, I can't say for sure. SN has an allure of being almost too good to be true though the reality of consuming it is a different story. Maybe Vizzy had a similar realization after trying the SN and thought no, he'd rather go by nitrogen.

Thankfully he had his nitrogen set up and was much better prepared to CTB that way, and painless.

No more pain for Vizzy.

No more suffering

When I CTB, I'm going to benzo out that day. Unsure of how many Klonopin I'll end up taking but I'm relieved to have built up a nice stock pile.

 

[HopefulSleep]

Where I am, it's not easy to get benzos by prescription, and the street gets expensive.

What about rc's?

When I CTB, I'm going to benzo out that day. Unsure of how many Klonopin I'll end up taking but I'm relieved to have built up a nice stock pile.

How would you time it to black out after taking sn?

 

[Kerrtu]

What about rc's?

How would you time it to black out after taking sn?

I haven't looked into procuring any specific rc's - we're talking recreational drugs, no? I do smoke weed regularly and occasionally take shrooms. There's a place in Maine that sells Banana Cream hash bars and they are

Regarding timing, I'm not too concerned with it as I'm pretty used to Klonopin by now and can take large doses without sleep. Maybe start the day with 2-3 mgs, afternoon 2-3mgs and grand finale 2-3mgs. That'd be a max of 9mgs throughout the day, I'd be feeling pretty good. I have bubble packs of 10 pills each, maybe I end up just taking the 10.

TBD.

 

[Bluebunnysky]

Where I am, it's not easy to get benzos by prescription, and the street gets expensive.

As far as Vizzy's final method - he had 3 choices. Jumping would've been his least desirable choice. I believe he wanted to try the SN method and see, or rather taste it for himself. The SN he had was a lower purity than mine - I remember him getting a kick out of that.

I don't know for certain if he vomited - it makes sense to me, as many people do vomit despite their best efforts to avoid. Vizzy even had meto. But, something went wrong during his SN attempt. What, I can't say for sure. SN has an allure of being almost too good to be true though the reality of consuming it is a different story. Maybe Vizzy had a similar realization after trying the SN and thought no, he'd rather go by nitrogen.

Thankfully he had his nitrogen set up and was much better prepared to CTB that way, and painless.

No more pain for Vizzy.

No more suffering

When I CTB, I'm going to benzo out that day. Unsure of how many Klonopin I'll end up taking but I'm relieved to have built up a nice stock pile.

How do you know he ended up using nitrogen instead of sn? His goodbye thread only mentioned he took sn and it seemingly worked

 

[HopefulSleep]

How do you know he ended up using nitrogen instead of sn? His goodbye thread only mentioned he took sn and it seemingly worked

There are news reports about his death

 

[Kerrtu]

How do you know he ended up using nitrogen instead of sn? His goodbye thread only mentioned he took sn and it seemingly worked

From what I knew of him, I located the place where he had been staying. He had shared photos and I recalled the bedspread and floor, the tank, the chair he used, the restraints. In some reports, his body is blurred. In the un-blurred pictures he can't really be seen as he's got the hood on but yeah. It's not a grisly scene, not gory, not bloody, nothing broken.

I won't link to the news stories; at last check there were 3 outlets reporting on it.

 

[HopefulSleep]

From what I knew of him, I located the place where he had been staying. He had shared photos and I recalled the bedspread and floor, the tank, the chair he used, the restraints. In some reports, his body is blurred. In the un-blurred pictures he can't really be seen as he's got the hood on but yeah. It's not a grisly scene, not gory, not bloody, nothing broken.

I won't link to the news stories; at last check there were 3 outlets reporting on it.

Why do you think there were so many reports on his death but not so much about most suicides hear

 

[Kerrtu]

Why do you think there were so many reports on his death but not so much about most suicides hear

His method was unusual to investigators and likely the locals. All of the materials he had - it was meticulous. I'm in the US and haven't found him in any US news. The reporting of Vizzy could technically count as 2 news pieces - 1 seemed to be a repeat.

Every now and then I google 'suicide' and search the news. Many stories.

 

[UKscotty]

Because SN is so slow and unreliable.

Now people aren't profiting from it, it's not promoted so much as a sensible method.

His actual nitrogen method doesn't look that difficult to setup. A oxygen mask attached to a nitrogen cylinder would probably be even easier. I'd hazard a guess you could even get that from ebay etc

 

[rotciv]

He got impatient and used the N2 as a guarantee and to speed up the process, it seems to me

 

[HerculePoirot]

He got impatient and used the N2 as a guarantee and to speed up the process, it seems to me

Can you imagine he'd be able to use N2 AFTER his final post saying
"Love y'all guys
Peace, I fell little vomiting I am gonna close my eyessss
I can't typprrr"?

 

[rotciv]

Can you imagine he'd be able to use N2 AFTER his final post saying
"Love y'all guys
Peace, I fell little vomiting I am gonna close my eyessss
I can't typprrr"?

I'm just saying some details he may have omitted from us, nothing serious about it though.

 

[toofargone6969]

The pph guide to consume a bunch of powdery ass benzos floating in water, AFTER consuming sn just seems crazy to me. Definitely take a moderate to heavy dose before SN. Depending on the kind of benzo and how much you have to know your tolerance and when it hits you. Personally I would start the evening with 1 to 2mg lorazepam just to mildly calm me a few hours before. Maybe tylenol an hour before but i don't see the need. take the AE 40 mins before as directed. Then a large dose of lorazepam or xanax maybe 20 mins before sn so I'm feeling very very sleep relaxed and calm and the benzos are absorbed and cannot be vomited out with the nasty sn.

 

[HopefulSleep]

Then a large dose of lorazepam or xanax maybe 20 mins before sn

If it is too high you could be too numb to take the sn, I will stick with 3mg Bromazolan

 

[ookletsgoctb]

I'm just saying some details he may have omitted from us, nothing serious about it though.

I saw the news. Couldn't tell if he was wearing the mask. Maybe he had it near him in case the SN didn't work? Police ruled he used nitrogen, but an autopsy was yet to take place. So maybe he was successful with the SN?

 

[Deleted member 65988]

The pph guide to consume a bunch of powdery ass benzos floating in water, AFTER consuming sn just seems crazy to me. Definitely take a moderate to heavy dose before SN. Depending on the kind of benzo and how much you have to know your tolerance and when it hits you. Personally I would start the evening with 1 to 2mg lorazepam just to mildly calm me a few hours before. Maybe tylenol an hour before but i don't see the need. take the AE 40 mins before as directed. Then a large dose of lorazepam or xanax maybe 20 mins before sn so I'm feeling very very sleep relaxed and calm and the benzos are absorbed and cannot be vomited out with the nasty sn.

That's what I'm going for. 3mg of Alprazolam 15-20 min before SN but 0.5mg at the start of the hour along with painkillers. I've never taken that much before but so far, I've taken 1mg and that took me absolutely out and I felt the effects within 20 mins but not drowsy or unfocused.

 

[soontobedone]

In the news picture of his room he is leaning over in chair with his hood on.