Venting Why does Sodium Nitrite look so damn painfull

[SuperioS]

I've seen a few videos about it because this might be the method i'm using and it kinda freaked me out because this doesn't look as painless as some of you are saying

it looked like they're still awake in some of the clips i've seen

why is that?

 

[Carrot]

Yeah, I have mixed feelings, especially without AE or Benzos. Why is peaceful dying so difficult...

The good thing is that once I have the courage to take it, no matter the pain, and it doesn't seem too bad, it will be over.

People can be in pain while in a drunk, sedated, unconcious state (meaning they won't remember anything and that pain "doesn't matter" in such state), but it's impossible to tell if people are in such state.

 

[RadiantNumber]

I've got same thinking: choking, seizures that's pretty scary

 

[LastLoveSong]

I don't think it's painful unless you vomit but it definitely looks terrifying to experience psychologically. I wonder if people who do it actually feel terrified while dying or if it's just more of an exhilarating feeling?

 

[kilowatt]

it looked like they're still awake in some of the clips i've seen

Very unlikely they're actually awake. You're looking at a person lacking consciousness, body just goes into shock when it's at its limit. The movements you see right before death and muscles spasms and twitching, the human body is made to fight for its life even when cornered. If the person was conscious you'd see them overwhelmed by panic and trying to fight it off (regardless of how much they wish to pass, the body will not cooperate), also probably coughing up the vomit instead of choking on it.

I believe the real distress occurs psychologically, yet again due to SI, especially if the method doesn't succeed or the procedure is done inadequately. SN is as of right now amongst the most painless and ethical ways to go, but different people will prefer different methods given their situation. There is no ''perfect'' method but you're certainly being unrealistic if you consider SN on the painful, gruesome side of ways to CTB.

 

[DeadSouls]

I don't think it does. People seem to lose consciousness within minutes, maybe vomiting before. I mean, it's killing the body,so it can't be COMPLETELY non-disturbing,but still seems relatively peaceful and best of all,non-violent.

 

[Droso]

In general, non instant deaths are going to look uncomfortable and painful to observers. You're literally watching somebody die. Unless you've been desensitized, you're gonna feel a sort of sympathy that chalks up to "oh no this person is in pain." Even people who are at their end of their natural life can look/sound/behave as if they are suffering despite being barely conscious for it. It's reasonable to feel this way when you're watching someone die. I would recommend you read studies on how SN kills a person to get an accurate estimate of how peaceful it is.

 

[Intoxicated]

If the person was conscious you'd see them overwhelmed by panic and trying to fight it off (regardless of how much they wish to pass, the body will not cooperate), also probably coughing up the vomit instead of choking on it.

That's a false conjecture. It's possible to feel pain while being paralyzed. For example, sometimes people experience pain during surgery operations without being able to indicate the presence of consciousness and suffering to the medical staff.

Consciousness is subjective experience, be it pure darkness, an engrossing movie, or intraoperative pain. Environmental connectedness describes the connection of consciousness to the external world allowing experience of external stimuli. Consciousness can be disconnected (e.g. , dreaming, where we are not conscious of our environment) or connected (e.g. , wakeful, where experiences can be triggered by environmental stimuli). The state of "anesthesia awareness" is therefore a state of environmentally connected consciousness. We shift to this terminology to help unbundle "anesthesia awareness" into its component parts ("connectedness" to the environment and "consciousness"). Although "anesthesia awareness" is often used interchangeably with "anesthesia awareness with explicit recall," here we use the term to mean experiencing the event of surgery and do not specify that the events are remembered. The concepts of consciousness or connectedness should not be confused with words describing the complexity of our behavioral interactions with the outside world, which we term responsiveness. Responsiveness can be further divided between behavior that is spontaneous or goal-directed (such as following a command).

While in sleep connectedness and responsiveness are tightly coupled so connection to the environment rapidly leads to responsiveness, studies of the isolated forearm technique demonstrate that coupling between responsiveness and connectedness is sometimes lost during anesthesia, hence unresponsiveness provides inconsistent and sometimes unreliable information about the probability of unconsciousness or of connected consciousness.

Full article:

Unresponsiveness ≠ Unconsciousness : Anesthesiology

anesthesia is to prevent the experience of surgery (connected consciousness), by inducing either unconsciousness or disconnection of consciousness from the environment. Review of the isolated forearm technique demonstrates that consciousness, connectedness, and responsiveness uncouple during...

journals.lww.com

 

[Roadrunner]

I was with my 102 year old grandmother in hospital in palliative care when she died. Although she was knocked out on morphine, the body really faught to stay alive. I suspect mine will do the same when I proceed with SN. Hopefully her mind or consciousness didn't suffer, and hopefully mine won't either. Or at least no worse than the daily suffering of depression and anxiety I live with all day everyday. Just look at it as a short bumpy ride to finally being at peace.

 

[conflagration]

I think your best shot to make it painless is to take shitload of benzos and hope you won't puke it out.
Otherwise people were rating it 7/10 in pain scale.

 

[unluckysadness]

last night i've had a strong stomach pain with huge diarrhea and in my mind i said to me "SN will not be good for me at all". I have often stomach issues and i can vomit easily. and fasting is not good for me. i need to find another method. damn !!

 

[kopebaldy]

I think most easily accessible suicide methods will contain some small amount of suffering.

They're easily accessible for a reason.

That's why I ain't watching any videos, I'm already a coward, let's not give my SI more fighting chance lol.

 

[Unknown21]

Everything is painful in this existence, choose your pain.

 

[noheart]

Some of these new videos could very well be government propeganda and acting to scare and discourage taking SN.

 

[kilowatt]

That's a false conjecture. It's possible to feel pain while being paralyzed. For example, sometimes people experience pain during surgery operations without being able to indicate the presence of consciousness and suffering to the medical staff.

That's interesting information, however paralysis is not typically a direct symptom of SN.
My point was that attempting via SN is generally very mild in terms of pain if done correctly. But sure, exceptions and miscalculations exist.

 

[Linda]

I think it looks worse to an onlooker than to the person experiencing it. They are probably unconscious by that stage.