Why does nobody want to suicide with opioids?

[Depressive1995]

When I read the partners thread I always wonder why almost nobody wants to use opioid overdose for suicide.. I mean this seems to be the most peaceful way and probably without severe damage if you wake up again.
In contrast to SN which most people here seem to prefer. But it has some really negative reports by people who failed with it. Like pain, nausea, I would get panic waiting like 15-30 minutes until it kicks in. And if you survive I could imagine this will last for days or weeks or you might even get irreversible damage...

 

[Meretlein]

Well for one, opioids have a readily available antidote.

SN is more lethal and reliable than most opioids.

Reliable opioids like fentanyl are harder to get than SN and when going through the effort to get illicit substances, most people just go for N.

 

[softfuzzyman]

I sometimes wonder the same thing, it certainly seems like the way a lot of celebrities go (whether on purpose or not...) with alcohol and opioids... I'm guessing reliability and availability... plus I don't think any kind of overdose/poisoning/etc is sure to be free of discomfort, side effects, or long term risk if you fail.

 

[Spitfire]

Not totally sure?

It is likely possible some of it could be the resulting legal issues which could arise is one of the reasons. If needing to use street dealers or other means, and the risk of police involvement?

I worked in emergency as a nurse for many years. Plenty of times I have helped to take care of people who had overdosed.

This is what sticks out to me about opioid overdose. The people look absolutely peaceful as they start slipping away.

Seen morphine alone administered to a person with terminal cancer slip away in a matter of minutes.

Very peacful.

 

[Bauhaus]

I assume this is intravenously since orally it will make you vomit.
Is it possible to use and OD rectally ?

 

[noname223]

I thought SN would often not do irreversible damage?

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

Because they are difficult to get and you need potent H or F.
Pills won't work

 

[RitaM]

I have a huge amount of pure (no acetaminophen) codeine for a long term health condition that I never bother to take them for. If I crushed them up and dissolved into a small amount of liquid, would it work? I have tried this previously but woke up two days later, but I had fewer pills then. Being found is not an issue.

 

[fastFWD]

that's how I'm going; and yes you can OD boofing.

 

[Grandexit]

Amazon won't deliver h or f to my doorstep like they did with sn.

 

[Spitfire]

IV opiate + oral benzos + maybe a bit of alcohol

Time it right with the opiate to benzo interaction. Don't get drunk.

Sounds good to me!

 

[Meditation guide]

My friend only took a couple of opioids and almost went unconscious. He had been drinking.

 

[paramhansyogi]

Great method

 

[emptymind94]

I'd LOVE to OD on fentanyl/morphium/something of the sort. I wouldn't have any trouble injecting myself, but the big problem is obtaining the stuff.
It's illegal, and while it's probably relatively easy to get for someone who knows how, I'm a very boring person who never even bought any weed before it was legalized.
Bottom line: I'm super scared of getting caught, getting shitty/fake stuff because I look as naive as I am, etc. Also don't want any trouble with the police.

 

[TAW122]

Well for one, opioids have a readily available antidote.

SN is more lethal and reliable than most opioids.

Reliable opioids like fentanyl are harder to get than SN and when going through the effort to get illicit substances, most people just go for N.

This sums it up pretty well, obtaining such substances are rather difficult, especially trying to filter through which ones are scams and which ones are legit (I certainly don't have the street smarts nor know where to start), plus due to illegality, there is an added risk of legal consequences if caught. Therefore, other people oftenly go for legal and reliable methods, even if the result is messy, gruesome (firearms).

 

[Fragile]

Aside from availability, there's also the issue of purity.

This is an amazing method if you have access to the specific strong opioids that can kill you, I'd go as far as to say that a lethal dose of F is just as effective and almost as peaceful as N. But unless you really trust your dealer, there's always the chance that the substance was cut with something, or simply the batch wasn't as potent. After all, H and F are street drugs, so you can't really be certain about what you are getting unlike with SN or N from a trusted source.

 

[snowman626]

why you talking like i can just go up to any pharmacy and buy this stuff

already hard to get SN. how would i even get opiod

 

[Aap]

No

 

[Tigeress Lost]

Hi Friend
I Have Tried Several Overdoses With Opioids Paracetamol & Codeine Codeine Alone And Tramadol I Failed Every Single One No Where Near Close I Took Antiemetics But Still Puked
I Took 60 Paracetamol & Codeine But Still Puked Ended Up On A Drip For 5 Days Than Mental Ward
I Took 50 Tramadol Capsules And Ended Up Asleep For 2 Days After Vomiting
Now These Overdoses Have Caused Me Severe Inflammation Of My Stomach

Now I Can't Even Take One Opioid Medicine For Normal Pain Relief I Now Get Itchy All Over My Whole Body
I Never Had This Reaction To Opioids Or Codeine Before My Overdoses

So Really Not Worth The Troubles I've Chosen SN As My Method To CTB It's A Poison And Very Toxic So If My Body Can Absorb Enough Of It Than I'm Gone

Wish You Luck & Peace & Hugs

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I have a huge amount of pure (no acetaminophen) codeine for a long term health condition that I never bother to take them for. If I crushed them up and dissolved into a small amount of liquid, would it work? I have tried this previously but woke up two days later, but I had fewer pills then. Being found is not an issue.

Sorry but no, you need H or F. And I mean pure H. Which cannot be found on the street, so like another poster said you have to go to the darknet, and if you're going there, why not go for N?

why you talking like i can just go up to any pharmacy and buy this stuff

already hard to get SN. how would i even get opiod

Coz you can actually buy it without as much questions from the pharmacy, darknet, but again, if your going there, why not N

 

[Shades of Grey]

For me, having legal access to my method was a primary concern. This effectively nixed a number of options that might have been a bit quicker, simpler, and more humane.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I'd LOVE to OD on fentanyl/morphium/something of the sort. I wouldn't have any trouble injecting myself, but the big problem is obtaining the stuff.
It's illegal, and while it's probably relatively easy to get for someone who knows how, I'm a very boring person who never even bought any weed before it was legalized.
Bottom line: I'm super scared of getting caught, getting shitty/fake stuff because I look as naive as I am, etc. Also don't want any trouble with the police.

Also not only is F illegal, but the sale of it has been banned on many darknetmarkets due to the heat it can bring. Mushroom and weed sites hardly ever get shut down, the big-ones are all taken down via fake hitman contracts/guns or high heat drugs. All the major markets I've ever been on have restricted these 'services' in the rules for this reason.

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

I assume this is intravenously since orally it will make you vomit.
Is it possible to use and OD rectally ?

Yes, you can take opioids rectally and ctb almost as effectively as via Intravenous method.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

No it isn't, IV is close to 99% bioavailabilty, rectal is roughly 60%

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

No it isn't, IV is close to 99% bioavailabilty, rectal is roughly 60%

It will still kill you though, if the opioid is sufficient and pure enough.

 

[Tigeress Lost]

Ohhh IV In Your Arm & You Drift Off Forever My Idea Of The Perfect CTB Why This Cannot Be Legal For Anyone Suffering Physical Or Mental Pain I Don't Know Mental Pain Is Not Easy To Live With Add Physical Pain Life Can Be Very Hard To Carry On Living With

I Completely Understand Why People CTB Because There Is Not A Legal Way Out
It's A Big Shame:(
We Don't Ask To Be Born We Should Have A Say If We Want To Die

 

[Deleted member 14386]

It will still kill you though, if the opioid is sufficient and pure enough.

edit: alright fair that's kinda true
I was disagreeing with this statement:
"Yes, you can take opioids rectally and ctb almost as effectively as via Intravenous method."
No, no, you can't, almost 40% less effective as IV.
.....
I'm sorry I haven't had a great day, I didn't mean to go all pedantic lol, but c'mon, that's just not true

 

[SunnyPotato]

And if you survive I could imagine this will last for days or weeks or you might even get irreversible damage...

My understanding is SN can be easily and nearly totally reversed with methylene blue, so permanent damage is very unlikely if you're discovered and they know to administer that. If it could figure out how to get F patches or learn to inject H, that would definitely be my preferred method- with some benzos and a nice final whiskey nightcap- sounds like bliss.

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

I'm sorry I haven't had a great day, I didn't mean to go all pedantic lol, but c'mon, that's just not true

I had a great day and I get your point. Maybe my wording was off, I should have quoted percentages. However the point remains, it will still kill you. That's what the original question was about.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Maybe add a caveat; if you take twice as much?
edit: meet me halfway at least