Help Why does hanging seem so complicated? Where to start?

[Terry Car Attoid]

My very old plan...
location: the edge of nearby woods
time: 4am or 1am
equipment: my skipping rope
I have absolutely no idea how to tie knots, I get very confused with imagining how I could physically hang from a tree... I've also not found any suitable tree yet.
Where can I learn this? I don't think written manuals are any help for me...

 

[jimmyinnout]

The "conventional" hanging knot makes more sense to me upon considering - its purpose is to allow the "loop" which you place your neck into, to shrink over time (with this "shrinking" originating from the much longer length of rope being brought from said loop to the larger length of rope you are suspended from. But it would be easier to draw this than to explan trough text).

Everything else I don't understand.

 

[Terry Car Attoid]

The "conventional" hanging knot makes more sense to me upon considering - its purpose is to allow the "loop" which you place your neck into, to shrink over time (with this "shrinking" originating from the much longer length of rope being brought from said loop to the larger length of rope you are suspended from. But it would be easier to draw this than to explan trough text).

Everything else I don't understand.

I've found some videos at least for the knots...
1. neck (anchor point knot): hangman noose + stopper


2. tree (ligature): bowline + overhand knot



Though I'm still not sure about the whole setup...

 

[outnout]

I'm still researching and reading through the mega threads. So far my understanding is that for FSH you need a sturdy anchor point at least 1 foot above your head. 12 mm interior braided polypropylene rope

Gold standard (ligature knot)
Noose knot + stopper knot

Gold standard (anchor point knot)
Double bowline knot + overhand backup knot pulled tight against the bowline + stopper knot

If someone like JesiBel with extensive knowledge in this area could give some input on this and correct my mistakes it would be helpful

Edit: Not sure after looking more at videos maybe the arbor knot is safer than the noose knot for the ligature

 

[JesiBel]

Maybe reading these threads can help you.

There are photos with examples of trees and where to place the rope (safe and strong spots)

Thread 'Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert'

And in this other thread there are videos of the knots.

Brief summary of some points in the Hanging method.

I think you may not have much rope if you're using a skipping rope. Tying knots takes a lot of rope, and tree branches are usually wide.

Warning! Explicit content:

Hanging from a tree: aftermath videos

Edit: Not sure after looking more at videos maybe the arbor knot is safer than the noose knot for the ligature

Yes. The 'Noose Knot with stopper knot' is the same knot as the 'Arbor Knot'.
(You can make all knots more secure by adding a stopper knot to the free end)

 

[Terry Car Attoid]

Maybe reading these threads can help you.

There are photos with examples of trees and where to place the rope (safe and strong spots)

Thread 'Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert'

And in this other thread there are videos of the knots.

Brief summary of some points in the Hanging method.

I think you may not have much rope if you're using a skipping rope. Tying knots takes a lot of rope, and tree branches are usually wide.

Warning! Explicit content:

Hanging from a tree: aftermath videos


Yes. The 'Noose Knot with stopper knot' is the same knot as the 'Arbor Knot'.
(You can make all knots more secure by adding a stopper knot to the free end)

Thanks a lot, I definitely need a lot longer rope, I could probably get a climbing rope.

 

[WPack]

I'm still researching and reading through the mega threads. So far my understanding is that for FSH you need a sturdy anchor point at least 1 foot above your head. 12 mm interior braided polypropylene rope

Gold standard (ligature knot)
Noose knot + stopper knot

Gold standard (anchor point knot)
Double bowline knot + overhand backup knot pulled tight against the bowline + stopper knot

If someone like JesiBel with extensive knowledge in this area could give some input on this and correct my mistakes it would be helpful

Edit: Not sure after looking more at videos maybe the arbor knot is safer than the noose knot for the ligature

My interior braided you mean solid braid?

Thats the closest thing I found on Google since it didn't yield results at first.