why do people use SN or heroin/fent

[flkywch]

sry i usually only come to sasu when i'm drunk so i genuinely dnt have the mental capacity to look up threads on why thgis is the difference. but heroin/fent... u usually just feel pure bliss until you pass out and just die,...... so why do people choose SN???? u can get these items from dnm or simply street dealers....... surely u would choose heroin/fent over SN?? maybe i'm missing sometrhinght

 

[Jimmy.]

I've always had the same thought. The concerns is around the quality and the fact most is cut with god knows what, as well as you've a high chance of being saved if found.

 

[flkywch]

I've always had the same thought. The concerns is around the quality and the fact most is cut with god knows what, as well as you've a high chance of being saved if found.

thanks for replying, yeah i dont' understand the saved concept if you simply are alone in the night for a couple hrs, if u stop breathing for a couple hrs ur a goner really. i understand the aspects of it being cut with something but ehre are legal routes to testing drugs as well

 

[TheHolySword]

Less risk across multiple categories. Generally more accessible. You can feel pure bliss or you can feel agony with an OD, there's not a real guarantee. Personal preference. I honestly don't understand questions like these. You can ask it about any two methods.

 

[flkywch]

Less risk across multiple categories. Generally more accessible. You can feel pure bliss or you can feel agony, there's not a real guarantee. Personal preference. I honestly don't understand questions like these. You can ask it about any two methods.

well keep in mind i am a bit drunk rn, but i did research sober. SN seems like slowly losing consciiousness. meanwhile heroin/fent is slowly losign consciousness while feeling very good. not sure why i'd choose SN, feel free to let me know why SN is better im very open

 

[Higurashi415]

There are a lot of ways to die, thing is that almost all of them can fail, and if they fail they'll leave you crippled for life, which isn't that good.
I mean, if you wanted to die before being crippled for life, imagine after that... not good. Other than that, most people want a painless death, or the closest thing to painless, anyway.
So people usually want to minimize the risk of permanent damage and maximize the likelihood of dying. SN fits the bill, opioids not so much.

 

[flkywch]

There are a lot of ways to die, thing is that almost all of them can fail, and if they fail they'll leave you crippled for life, which isn't that good.
I mean, if you wanted to die before being crippled for life, imagine after that... not good. Other than that, most people want a painless death, or the closest thing to painless, anyway.
So people usually want to minimize the risk of permanent damage and maximize the likelihood of dying. SN fits the bill, opioids not so much.

why do opioids not work though? surely the right dose is guaranteed death while feeling good ?

 

[Higurashi415]

It seems to be a bit more complicated than that. I mean you're technically, but it's usually laced with all sorts of things so getting the "dosage" isn't as easy as it may sound. IV may increase the likelihood of you eventually dying but it's extremely likely you'll pass out before fully injecting, or so I've heard, especially if your tolerance isn't that high. Which btw, this is another point of contention: people who have never tried opioids would have a very high chance of dying by OD but they usually have no idea how to get them, whereas people who know how to get them usually have a high tolerance so it would be very hard to die by OD

 

[maniac116]

The short answer is that most people don't die from opiates.
SN is incredibly toxic & pretty effective

 

[flkywch]

The short answer is that most people don't die from opiates.
SN is incredibly toxic & pretty effective

why do most ppl not die from it ? i see the "opiod crisis" is a verig big thing rn, surely if i js inject enough i die? it cant be that complicated ? esp for first time user

It seems to be a bit more complicated than that. I mean you're technically, but it's usually laced with all sorts of things so getting the "dosage" isn't as easy as it may sound. IV may increase the likelihood of you eventually dying but it's extremely likely you'll pass out before fully injecting, or so I've heard, especially if your tolerance isn't that high. Which btw, this is another point of contention: people who have never tried opioids would have a very high chance of dying by OD but they usually have no idea how to get them, whereas people who know how to get them usually have a high tolerance so it would be very hard to die by OD

ty for replying however i would 100% test it before injecting andi am an extreme alcoholic i am experienced with surviving drowsiness lol if i wna injuect the lethal dose i will manage to trust me

 

[Higurashi415]

ty for replying however i would 100% test it before injecting andi am an extreme alcoholic i am experienced with surviving drowsiness lol if i wna injuect the lethal dose i will manage to trust me

You'd pass out before injecting, it's not about being drowsy. Doing opioids any other way would lower the risk of ODing substantially, as far as I know. Anyhow it's not like it can't work, it's more that it's not as reliable as SN or N and other methods

 

[flkywch]

You'd pass out before injecting, it's not about being drowsy. Doing opioids any other way would lower the risk of ODing substantially, as far as I know. Anyhow it's not like it can't work, it's more that it's not as reliable as SN or N and other methods

thank u, i still thank it's the best method for me. however i will think abt it more bfore inectjgint fent/heroin and think abt sodi, niritite t han you for ur controbution brother

 

[KillingPain267]

why do most ppl not die from it ? i see the "opiod crisis" is a verig big thing rn, surely if i js inject enough i die? it cant be that complicated ? esp for first time user

The opioid crisis is overblown. Most of those deaths are also due to the stuff being laced with weird shit or with stimulants. The combination of depressants and stimulants does a number on the heart but it's very unpredictable.

 

[Jimmy.]

We think quite similar. The idea of slipping away whilst feeling warm and euphoric sounds ideal to me.

The quality issue could be mitigated by taking a lot more.

I guess the other issue would be you'd possibly want to test the method to be comfortable with it which could just end up with another addiction.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

well keep in mind i am a bit drunk rn, but i did research sober. SN seems like slowly losing consciiousness. meanwhile heroin/fent is slowly losign consciousness while feeling very good. not sure why i'd choose SN, feel free to let me know why SN is better im very open

dnm is a tough concept for some. street shit is, esp right now, stepped on aka cut to absolute shit barring a few exceptions. the bottom line is sn is currently viewed as reliable and a clear protocol has been given where there are many variables with fent or h and regular people can't easily find out the true purity of their product despite what any seller says. paperwork etc is extremely easy to fake. this is not the same as the easily found 9 panel tests, which only test for what's in xyz but not how much. no disrespect meant op. I've tried to die with fent multiple times, granted I had a tolerance but still. seen many die. don't understand why I didn't. i've never been narcanned. I used alone and always eventually woke up. this was on the same batch that had killed others I knew of, and was purposeful.

sorry to ramble xx

 

[flkywch]

We think quite similar. The idea of slipping away whilst feeling warm and euphoric sounds ideal to me.

The quality issue could be mitigated by taking a lot more.

I guess the other issue would be you'd possibly want to test the method to be comfortable with it which could just end up with another addiction.

Sober now, but yes the quality issue seems to become a moot point when you use a DNM vendor with decent reviews. Mentioned street sellers above but honestly I would never actually do the method with street drugs. I 100% get you on testing it as well as I'd like to test it too.

dnm is a tough concept for some. street shit is, esp right now, stepped on aka cut to absolute shit barring a few exceptions. the bottom line is sn is currently viewed as reliable and a clear protocol has been given where there are many variables with fent or h and regular people can't easily find out the true purity of their product despite what any seller says. paperwork etc is extremely easy to fake. this is not the same as the easily found 9 panel tests, which only test for what's in xyz but not how much. no disrespect meant op. I've tried to die with fent multiple times, granted I had a tolerance but still. seen many die. don't understand why I didn't. i've never been narcanned. I used alone and always eventually woke up. this was on the same batch that had killed others I knew of, and was purposeful.

sorry to ramble xx

You didn't ramble or disrespect me don't worry, you have personal experiences with it which was interesting to read, thank you. As above comment street drugs would be a no go and I am very computer literate and have no issues with DNM and researching which vendor has very pure product. But the fact you had many purposeful attempts and didn't pass... does make me think.

 

[heyismeman]

Sober now, but yes the quality issue seems to become a moot point when you use a DNM vendor with decent reviews. Mentioned street sellers above but honestly I would never actually do the method with street drugs. I 100% get you on testing it as well as I'd like to test it too.

You didn't ramble or disrespect me don't worry, you have personal experiences with it which was interesting to read, thank you. As above comment street drugs would be a no go and I am very computer literate and have no issues with DNM and researching which vendor has very pure product. But the fact you had many purposeful attempts and didn't pass... does make me think.

It's my plan also 5g from dnm vendor with high trust score. 3 boofed 1 gram oral and finally 1 snorted. But do you really think it's a sure thing man? With no tolerance at all of course

 

[Peter Skellern]

why do opioids not work though? surely the right dose is guaranteed death while feeling good ?

Basically because as others have said in your Heroin you are probably only getting 10% actually heroin (maybe less) so you'd need a vast dose to ensure success. Administration can be a pain too (as you'd probably need a 10ml syringe) although you can go IM.

 

[heyismeman]

Basically because as others have said in your Heroin you are probably only getting 10% actually heroin (maybe less) so you'd need a vast dose to ensure success. Administration can be a pain too (as you'd probably need a 10ml syringe) although you can go IM.

Fentanyl is a whole different ball game, I think 5g is safe boofed even if it's less then 10% which it isn't

 

[letsmakeitagoodworl]

This is my main way to want to die, it's just really hard to get, im real not keen to go out and ask the addicts on pir street for some, prob would be 5% heroin 95% godknowswhat.

I imagine it takes alot too, I never use it but had a surgery in Jan and it was doing shite all to help the pain (unsire of dose, but even multiple doses). I got given 30 tramadol after dental work which felt like Christmas came early but I know alone it won't do anything & dont feel confident in how to make it work.
If I had no morals I could have many times taken tonnes of morphine etc when I worked at a Healthcare facility as relatives would return huge amount ms of meds, but I never took a single thing *regrets