Discussion Why CTB despite the uncertainty?

[dogemn]

If you decide to CTB you're stepping into something whose outcome you cannot know. You don't know whether you'll change your mind and regret it as soon as you carry out your plan and by then it will be too late to turn back. You don't know whether it will be painless, peaceful and quick or slow, painful, and terrifying because there is no way to know in advance how your body and mind will react. You don't know whether you'll succeed or fail and end up in an even worse situation than before because no method is 100% guaranteed. And even if you succeed you don't know what death actually brings. Peace is not necessarily the same thing as nonexistence and no one can tell you with certainty what waits on the other side, if anything.

So if the thing you're seeking is relief, why choose an option whose consequences are the most uncertain of all?

 

[3rdworldsadness]

That's the reason why I haven't done it. As I fear being a vegetable for life. But there's so many method that people do, and every 40 seconds I guess someone is ctb so I think it's about doing the thing rightly. If failed then that would be very horrible. And I don't fear afterlife now as hell heaven is just story people made to scare people and not doing ctb in the older times hah and it failed, as in the older times people thought the sun is god and look what it made of? Yes there's uncertainty afterlife but less or more we return to stardust like atoms and particles that's it. I wish we can actually control our body and consciousness, sigh.

 

[fullypneumatic]

It's a matter of the effort it takes to live in this world and age. CTB is bypassing all the inevitable suffering that life holds, and no one escapes death in the end.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Really? Ugh.

 

[dogemn]

It's a matter of the effort it takes to live in this world and age. CTB is bypassing all the inevitable suffering that life holds, and no one escapes death in the end.

So you're willing to face the uncertainty despite the things that could go wrong when you CTB?

 

[FuneralCry]

I'd never regret finding true permanent peace from this existence so torturous and dreadful that I just always saw as the most terrible, cruel mistake that just causes all this cruelty and suffering with no limit as to how much one can be tortured, for me non-existence is just all that's positive and desirable.

I'll just always prefer to not exist than be burdened with this existence of torturous suffering no matter what, it's just so terrible how humans impose this existence at all and what is so horrible to me is how a human can be tortured in this existence for decades longer just to face the terrible extreme agony of old age and cease existing anyway, existence to me will always be an abomination, all I want is to be permanently unconscious and finally at peace.

 

[Forveleth]

I am going to die at some point anyway. I have to face whatever happens eventually. Fuck it, do it now and at least I will not have to deal with life anymore. Also, I am certain as to what happens after I die so I am not worried about it.

 

[Intoxicated]

If you decide to CTB you're stepping into something whose outcome you cannot know. You don't know whether you'll change your mind and regret it as soon as you carry out your plan and by then it will be too late to turn back. You don't know whether it will be painless, peaceful and quick or slow, painful, and terrifying because there is no way to know in advance how your body and mind will react. You don't know whether you'll succeed or fail and end up in an even worse situation than before because no method is 100% guaranteed.

Isn't it similar to giving birth? What mother would want any of the complications mentioned here and here or even death for herself as a possible outcome of pregnancy or labor? If women didn't accept these risks, the humanity would extinct. Pregnancy & labor often cause significant discomfort which lasts for hours, days, weeks, months, or sometimes years. In most successful suicide attempts, loss of consciousness happens in a matter of seconds or minutes.

Sometimes people do risky and/or unpleasant things trying to achieve desirable goals, assuming that the desirability of the goal outweighs the potential risks and almost inevitable negative factors.

And even if you succeed you don't know what death actually brings. Peace is not necessarily the same thing as nonexistence and no one can tell you with certainty what waits on the other side, if anything.

All scientific knowledge suggests that death implies permanent loss of consciousness and is inevitable with nearly 100% certainty.

 

[Acidic_Fries]

Cause my family is insufferable and I love not one person in the whole universe.

 

[hurts2b]

People are simply choosing one form of suffering and ambiguity over another. We don't know much about death. But someone in a bad enough state will do anything to escape. No major life choice is ever 100% certain. The people who choose death are (generally) doing the best they can with the options they have.

 

[Passenger4224]

With a well planned method, the chance of death is almost certain.

I am not worried about what will happen after death because I feel certain nothing happens.

I don't mind physical pain, it is nothing compared to the pain of existing.

 

[peacebenow]

Life in itself is uncertain. When you train in living with uncertainty it helps set you up for this process.

 

[dogemn]

Cause my family is insufferable and I love not one person in the whole universe.

I feel you. My family is one of the main reasons I wanna die too.

 

[delinquentsandwich]

there is an uncertainty about what's after death
I firmly believe it is oblivion and the end of "me"

I acknowledge that life may get better but that's another uncertainty
I refuse to live on a maybe

I do believe I'll be terrified when the moment comes
but I want to believe that my last moments will be worth it to not suffer for a lifetime

 

[dogemn]

there is an uncertainty about what's after death
I firmly believe it is oblivion and the end of "me"

I acknowledge that life may get better but that's another uncertainty
I refuse to live on a maybe

I do believe I'll be terrified when the moment comes
but I want to believe that my last moments will be worth it to not suffer for a lifetime

So it can be worth the risk to stop the suffering?

 

[Bitter Almonds]

So it can be worth the risk to stop the suffering?

Of course. my life is already in shambles. there are so many possible outcomes for death, so it's all a gamble anyways. and it's one you have to take regardless of now or later.