There's a lot of people here discussing sources and methods. A lot of people commenting, a lot of people dooming. I just don't really understand. Yes, there aren't really any posts here that explicitly and super easily tell you how to access certain chemicals or medications. But there's enough that with some digging you can certainly find it. As well as how to do things, and info on more common methods as well (not substances). So many people here will post stuff talking about how to kill yourself for years.
Some people (I'm assuming you know who I'm talking about) comment on nearly every popular post about how terrible life is and how much suicide is the solution and death is relief (which I'm against the premise of but whatever. Keep in mind I'm quite suicidal and I completely understand why someone would attempt, but the idea of death as relief or something nebulous or beautiful is just false which I think is sad and also dangerous).
Why are we telling people how to kill themselves? Why are these people who are so pro-suicide, still living and on this website? I suspect for many it's the kind of passive bridging active suicidality I and many others have struggled with for years. It's comforting to be able to bask in suicidality. It provides relief on some level.
But I will not assist people in killing themselves. There's honestly a lot of really good arguments not to. The impact on loved ones, or really anyone that knows you, is absolutely insane. Which isn't enough, but should sure as hell be highly considered. Everyone will die anyways. That's where a lot of existential dread comes from. Whether you kill yourself, spend your dies on this site, or live completely 'normally', death comes for us all. Infinite nothingness, a blip of something, and then more infinite nothingness. To shorten that blip is interesting. But the end is the same either way. Which can be relief. Suicide attempts often fail, and ruin peoples lives. Luckily, life can do it for you. And life WILL do it for you, whether you want it to or not. You just have to wait.
Death isn't relief. Releif is a feeling. You feel the pressure in your head, or pain around your neck, or excruciating stomach pain, or dizziness, and then...
End of sentence. That's it.
Life has potential to improve, for you to want to live it. You won't know if you end it. It also has potential to get worse, which is a lot of why I want to die. And it's exhausting. But logically, it's usually the wrong choice. Because the potential to improve or bring joy or be glad you lived outweighs the other options, since you'll get both eventually. Even if life gets worse, it'll end one day. Either option will take your life. Only one option leaves the door open for a blip of happiness.
I also don't want to encourage others to die, because selfish or not, it would weigh on me. If I feel like someone died because of me, that's haunting as fuck.
Now. I'm still suicidal. There's a good chance this is how I'll die. But I thought I'd mention why I think it's still the illogical decision in many cases, even if I give myself permission to be illogical to escape this pain and fatigue and uncertainty. Don't make a permanent decision you don't fully understand. And more of us then we'd like to think don't truly understand death.
That was a long tangent. My original question is why there are so many 'regulars' here. You'd assume by nature of the site they'd ether recover and leave or... something else. Doesn't take away from any pain or seriousness of this that they haven't yet. And again, for many, it makes sense. Though this isn't the healthiest nor safest place to vent. It's just weird to me.
If you want to improve, try to limit your time on this site. It has it's merits, notably being able to talk about being suicidal without people freaking so much. But it's not really good for you. Get what you need out of it, then limit your time. Bad actors are a concern too. That's my advice.
Some people (I'm assuming you know who I'm talking about) comment on nearly every popular post about how terrible life is and how much suicide is the solution and death is relief (which I'm against the premise of but whatever. Keep in mind I'm quite suicidal and I completely understand why someone would attempt, but the idea of death as relief or something nebulous or beautiful is just false which I think is sad and also dangerous).
Why are we telling people how to kill themselves? Why are these people who are so pro-suicide, still living and on this website? I suspect for many it's the kind of passive bridging active suicidality I and many others have struggled with for years. It's comforting to be able to bask in suicidality. It provides relief on some level.
But I will not assist people in killing themselves. There's honestly a lot of really good arguments not to. The impact on loved ones, or really anyone that knows you, is absolutely insane. Which isn't enough, but should sure as hell be highly considered. Everyone will die anyways. That's where a lot of existential dread comes from. Whether you kill yourself, spend your dies on this site, or live completely 'normally', death comes for us all. Infinite nothingness, a blip of something, and then more infinite nothingness. To shorten that blip is interesting. But the end is the same either way. Which can be relief. Suicide attempts often fail, and ruin peoples lives. Luckily, life can do it for you. And life WILL do it for you, whether you want it to or not. You just have to wait.
Death isn't relief. Releif is a feeling. You feel the pressure in your head, or pain around your neck, or excruciating stomach pain, or dizziness, and then...
End of sentence. That's it.
Life has potential to improve, for you to want to live it. You won't know if you end it. It also has potential to get worse, which is a lot of why I want to die. And it's exhausting. But logically, it's usually the wrong choice. Because the potential to improve or bring joy or be glad you lived outweighs the other options, since you'll get both eventually. Even if life gets worse, it'll end one day. Either option will take your life. Only one option leaves the door open for a blip of happiness.
I also don't want to encourage others to die, because selfish or not, it would weigh on me. If I feel like someone died because of me, that's haunting as fuck.
Now. I'm still suicidal. There's a good chance this is how I'll die. But I thought I'd mention why I think it's still the illogical decision in many cases, even if I give myself permission to be illogical to escape this pain and fatigue and uncertainty. Don't make a permanent decision you don't fully understand. And more of us then we'd like to think don't truly understand death.
That was a long tangent. My original question is why there are so many 'regulars' here. You'd assume by nature of the site they'd ether recover and leave or... something else. Doesn't take away from any pain or seriousness of this that they haven't yet. And again, for many, it makes sense. Though this isn't the healthiest nor safest place to vent. It's just weird to me.
If you want to improve, try to limit your time on this site. It has it's merits, notably being able to talk about being suicidal without people freaking so much. But it's not really good for you. Get what you need out of it, then limit your time. Bad actors are a concern too. That's my advice.
But maybe I didn't read it well enough, idk. I'm tired.
