Discussion Why are there so few suicides?

[UtopianElephant]

I only know 5 or 6 people who actually killed themselves

Holy crap. Are you very social, with a lot of friends ?

 

[stermc]

Holy crap. Are you very social, with a lot of friends ?

I have had a lot of friends, but I guess nowadays most of them are colleagues. But yes, I am very social when I want to be. And I also have a big family (3 of the 6 people I know that killed themselves were my family members).

 

[Unending]

I think there are around 25 failed attempts for every successful one but don't quote me since I don't have a source on hand.

Keep in mind that this doesn't account for all the people going through life wanting out every single day but are too scared or guilty to act on it and of course the lack of peaceful methods factors in as well.

 

[Gotstobegoodstuff]

SI and they removed all the easy way to do it , marylin Monroe and jimi hendrix overdosed and died with barbiturates, they were easy to obtain back then , they have been replaced by benzos which are safer.

They are building anti barrier suicide in a lot of famous place to jump , when you when to die , you want to do it in a famous place like the golden gate bridge, not alone in a remote mountain.

I heard it used to be easy to buy 100% pure helium tank, but now it's diluted with some other gas and it might not work.

The list goes on and on.....one day , you will have a chipset in your body and they will know if you are thinking about suicide, and they will put you in a psych ward to rehabilitate you.

This is in our DNA , we are like rats , the more we are the better and spreading everywhere. Why do you think they experiment on rats , because their anatomical, physiological and genetic similarity to humans.

Hey there Gonnerr, your comment is very interesting - thanks for sharing this. I'm not that smart when it comes to math and biology, but you seem knowledgeable.
My method will be N2 and this what your saying that these tanks are now diluted with other gasses n such has caused me concern for failure, from my google searches oxygen < 50ppm can be fatal.
Here is the information on the cylinder I'm getting

• Gas Grade: Industrial and Food Grade
• Gas Composition: Nitrogen greater than 99.99%
• Gas Mixture Impurities: Water Vapour ≤25ppm. Oxygen ≤10ppm

Do I have to worry? or will this be good enough?
Thank you so much for your time.

Kind regards
Est

 

[OutOfTheVoid]

statistics on suicide have a lot of challenges and errors. for one, that statistic is only people who die from suicide (thus does not include non-lethal attempts), and two its only deaths that were deemed suicide as opposed to other causes of death. plenty of deaths ruled as 'accidental' or 'natural causes' are actually suicides, such as someone intentionally getting in a car accident. there are also smaller suicide attempts, like taking a risky drug combo. and prolonged subtle suicide, like smoking knowing and hoping you'll slowly die from it.
worth noting also that ruling a death as a suicide has a much higher burden of proof than other causes, and theres a lot of hesitancy to ruling a death a suicide unless its almost absolutely certain. most suicides get filed under 'accidents' or 'natural causes'

 

[WorthlessCoward]

Maybe they're not reported or rather they are misreported as "accidents" it's taboo subject after all

 

[Viranamari]

Methods aren't accessible. I'm sure if Nembutal was easily accessible the rate would increase. Next is the stigma around suicide and pro-lifers. A more common one would be that their not dying for their loved ones. Also, suicide at least in my country isn't even reported in the news to prevent encouraging others to follow their path. Most of the time suicide is filed under natural causes or accidents as there might not be enough evidence. But, after all, suicide is a personal opinion. There are many people whose life is cruel yet they still wish to live. And lastly, one of the reasons I'm still alive: survival instinct. Survival instinct is pain and prevents me from acquiring what I desire. I hope this helps.

 

[soontobedone]

Hey there Gonnerr, your comment is very interesting - thanks for sharing this. I'm not that smart when it comes to math and biology, but you seem knowledgeable.
My method will be N2 and this what your saying that these tanks are now diluted with other gasses n such has caused me concern for failure, from my google searches oxygen < 50ppm can be fatal.
Here is the information on the cylinder I'm getting

• Gas Grade: Industrial and Food Grade
• Gas Composition: Nitrogen greater than 99.99%
• Gas Mixture Impurities: Water Vapour ≤25ppm. Oxygen ≤10ppm

Do I have to worry? or will this be good enough?
Thank you so much for your time.

Kind regards
Est

Try talking to @GasMonkey

 

[wait-bus-stop]

Are there so few. The stats I have seen is that worldwide there are about 2,200 a day. And there a lots of countries that under report,

 

[Homo erectus]

In many countries there is no need for suicide. Many suicidal people would have been dead by accident or disease, or abandoned by their families and societies before they become suicidal. The use of medicine and super protective environment in advanced countries allow unsuitable people to survive and suffer. .

 

[GasMonkey]

will this be good enough?

Yep that cylinder is perfectly fine.

 

[Himalayan]

Because it's hard.

 

[lastwords.com]

Many different people Have many different reasons… most of the reasons aren't strong enough and hang on a very variable amount of length of thread, depending on the person and their situations for them to want to CTB.

I guess the majority is just simply depression that can be fixed with the right directions, but the other few have genuinely legitimate reasons to want to CTB and I hope and wish the best outcome for all but with as less suffering as possible and that sometimes comes down to having to CTB to end suffering faster, which is probably the few 0.01% that actually do CTB.

 

[Himalayan]

In many countries there is no need for suicide. Many suicidal people would have been dead by accident or disease, or abandoned by their families and societies before they become suicidal. The use of medicine and super protective environment in advanced countries allow unsuitable people to survive and suffer. .

What made you into such a cuck, btw? Really curious.

 

[GasMonkey]

The use of medicine and super protective environment in advanced countries allow unsuitable people to survive

And they pass their unsuitable genes to the next generation. :-(

 

[Darkover]

8 billion human on the planet within 80 years the average lifespan 1.6 billion humans would of attempted suicide and 80 million would of succeed only 1 in every 20 suicided attempts is successful around 1 million humans die of suicide each year nearly 1 in 4 of the total world population would of attempted sucide within their lifetime

 

[Gonnerr]

Hey there Gonnerr, your comment is very interesting - thanks for sharing this. I'm not that smart when it comes to math and biology, but you seem knowledgeable.
My method will be N2 and this what your saying that these tanks are now diluted with other gasses n such has caused me concern for failure, from my google searches oxygen < 50ppm can be fatal.
Here is the information on the cylinder I'm getting

• Gas Grade: Industrial and Food Grade
• Gas Composition: Nitrogen greater than 99.99%
• Gas Mixture Impurities: Water Vapour ≤25ppm. Oxygen ≤10ppm

Do I have to worry? or will this be good enough?
Thank you so much for your time.

Kind regards
Est

Thanks, I was talking about the helium tank they sell at wal mart, i think they are diluted and not gonna work for exit bag. But if you got 99.99% nitrogen , this should do the job. But we never know until we do it. No way to be 100% sure. Just make sure , not to be interrupted while doing it.

 

[Gotstobegoodstuff]

Thanks, I was talking about the helium tank they sell at wal mart, i think they are diluted and not gonna work for exit bag. But if you got 99.99% nitrogen , this should do the job. But we never know until we do it. No way to be 100% sure. Just make sure , not to be interrupted while doing it.

awesome sauce

 

[GasMonkey]

I only know 5 or 6 people who actually killed themselves.

What method did they use?

 

[Sparx]

jimi hendrix overdosed and died with barbiturates

There is considerable evidence that Jimi actually died from his manager pouring a bottle of red wine down his throat when unconscious from the barbiturates. Maybe the OD would've killed him anyway but his lungs were apparently found to be full of wine during the autopsy.

 

[stermc]

What method did they use?

my cousin shot himself in the head, my uncle did partial hanging, my aunt took rat poison, a friend of mine jumped from a building, the other one overdosed on meds (not sure which ones), my friend's dad did full suspension… I don't think they knew much about the methods though, because most of them died at the hospital.

 

[System28]

i read an study someday that says around 3-4% of all acidents that happens is very likely to be intentionaly so its a some big number that its not counted

 

[Sparx]

prolly some % of all accidents that happens is actualy suicide i read some article about that one time, like 3-4% something like that

Yes where I live every year there are a few 'one vehicle' accidents that occur at night in rural areas, usually with a young male driving. Apparently a lot of these are suicides.

Someone I know had a motorbike accident, he drove into a motorway bridge. I suspect it was a suicide attempt but all that happened was he shattered both his legs.

 

[System28]

Yes where I live every year there are a few 'one vehicle' accidents that occur at night in rural areas, usually with a young male driving. Apparently a lot of these are suicides.

Someone I know had a motorbike accident, he drove into a motorway bridge. I suspect it was a suicide attempt but all that happened was he shattered both his legs.

yeh pretty normal, strange accidents happens every day most of all know what doing, taboo of suicide is so strong in society

 

[NeverReallyHere]

Forget the prolifers "one suicide is one too many blah blah"

I just googled and there are only about 800000 suicides every year worldwide. Out of 8 billion people that's only 0.01%

If life is so shitty (and it is) I would expect a lot more than that.

As already pointed out elsewhere 95% of suicide attempts fail, so that's at least 16,000,000 annual suicide attempts.

That number is bound to be a significant underestimate too since in many - perhaps most - parts of the world instances of suicide are under-recorded due to the taboos associated with it.

But also it's not enough to measure the number over a single year: in order to get some idea of a person's likelihood of dying by suicide we ought to to multiply that 800,000 over the course of an average human lifespan - say 75 years. That comes out at 60,000,000 which is 0.75% of the current human population.

 

[6MillionWaystoDie]

I think that the majority of the world suffers from groupthink. Its the reason most people spew the same rehearsed toxic platitudes.

Suicidal people are not just vilified for the idea of it. They are vilified just for having and sharing the thought. Most people even if they thought of it one time in their life will deny it when asked.

I remember being vilified by family members for not being afraid of death. I see death as merely another state of existence. In fact there isn't much I fear that I can think of right now except ongoing excruciating pain for which there is no cure. Why would lack of fear of something in general make one such a horrible person that they must be labeled and treated in a nasty way?


The feeling that made my family vilify me is probably the same feeling that is drummed up in people when the topic of suicide comes up. No-one wants to be affiliated with that sh*t. Thats why we're considered and treated like a forum of freaks.

 

[violetchiwawa]

Forget the prolifers "one suicide is one too many blah blah"

I just googled and there are only about 800000 suicides every year worldwide. Out of 8 billion people that's only 0.01%

If life is so shitty (and it is) I would expect a lot more than that.

Fear of death for sure. It's human nature to not want to die, plus there are other internal biases we have that tend to keep us alive

 

[CentreMid]

For every successful, reported suicide, there are multiple failed attemps and unreported suicides. We may not have the full picture

 

[all_is_vanity]

I don't know. But I don't care. I just want to be part of the number. Wish I had a gun, then I could be Gone and put this awfully flawed brain out of its misery

 

[UtopianElephant]

I have had a lot of friends, but I guess nowadays most of them are colleagues. But yes, I am very social when I want to be. And I also have a big family (3 of the 6 people I know that killed themselves were my family members).

Wow, I'm sorry for your losses. That shows to me that suicide is pretty common, and that many people in general tend to be suicidal at one point or another.