• UK users: Due to a formal investigation into this site by Ofcom under the UK Online Safety Act 2023, we strongly recommend using a trusted, no-logs VPN. This will help protect your privacy, bypass censorship, and maintain secure access to the site. Read the full VPN guide here.

  • Hey Guest,

    Today, OFCOM launched an official investigation into Sanctioned Suicide under the UK’s Online Safety Act. This has already made headlines across the UK.

    This is a clear and unprecedented overreach by a foreign regulator against a U.S.-based platform. We reject this interference and will be defending the site’s existence and mission.

    In addition to our public response, we are currently seeking legal representation to ensure the best possible defense in this matter. If you are a lawyer or know of one who may be able to assist, please contact us at [email protected].

    Read our statement here:

    Donate via cryptocurrency:

    Bitcoin (BTC): 34HyDHTvEhXfPfb716EeEkEHXzqhwtow1L
    Ethereum (ETH): 0xd799aF8E2e5cEd14cdb344e6D6A9f18011B79BE9
    Monero (XMR): 49tuJbzxwVPUhhDjzz6H222Kh8baKe6rDEsXgE617DVSDD8UKNaXvKNU8dEVRTAFH9Av8gKkn4jDzVGF25snJgNfUfKKNC8
Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
1,683
This world is hell, especially when you're on your own as an adult. Why are those stupid fucks so blind? How are people ok with high gas prices, inflation, jobs that don't pay a living wage or even fucking hire at all, pandemic after pandemic, useless politicians, idiotic celebs and idiotic rich people like Elon musk sparing some trite occasional bit of "wisdom" to the masses like the pope? Entertainment is woke bs and isn't even fun nor creative like it was even a decade ago. I'm surprised every bridge isn't sitting on top of a dam made of human corpses at this point.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Eternal🌈Rainbow, VerbalWinter, QuietLake and 7 others
veryhappyhuman

veryhappyhuman

Specialist
Aug 25, 2021
340
IMO these things would bother you only if you have no other attachments to the world and have time to reflect on the state of the world etc. If I have dozens of friends who I'm in regular contact with, have an active social life, a life partner, great career etc etc and in general lead a fulfilled life, then I wouldn't give a shit about woke bs or celebs or whatever. But that's just me.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eternal🌈Rainbow, NoLightRemains, Lost in a Dream and 6 others
peanuts

peanuts

Member
May 27, 2022
99
Most of the people I spend time with are very happy in their life. I was very surprised when I first knew someone who completed suicide. And she had significant MH struggles. I'd be mega shocked if a friend of mine did it with no prior warning.

Ignorance is bliss I guess, when you're financially stable, mentally and physically healthy and have lots of people around you - you don't think of all the crap stuff.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nightshade00, NoLightRemains, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and 3 others
Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
1,683
IMO these things would bother you only if you have no other attachments to the world and have time to reflect on the state of the world etc. If I have dozens of friends who I'm in regular contact with, have an active social life, a life partner, great career etc etc and in general lead a fulfilled life, then I wouldn't give a shit about woke bs or celebs or whatever. But that's just me.
You wouldn't care about inflation and sociopathic politicians who do affect your life? LOL
 
  • Like
Reactions: Finn_tasia, 𝔧𝔞𝔫𝔢 ⛧ and Alex6216
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,533
Because they have never considered suicide themselves and they do not understand what the person who ctb went through as they were not living that persons life. Many people keep their suffering to themselves and do not tell others how they are feeling.

To me suicide could never be shocking. We live in such a cruel and unfair world, where so much pain exists, so to me it is understandable why so many people want to leave. I see life as being so pointless as well and it is horrifying the thought of having to exist until old age.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nightshade00, Wisdom3_1-9, Nemeshisu and 4 others
Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
1,683
Because they have never considered suicide themselves and they do not understand what the person who ctb went through as they were not living that persons life. Many people keep their suffering to themselves and do not tell others how they are feeling.

To me suicide could never be shocking. We live in such a cruel and unfair world, where so much pain exists, so to me it is understandable why so many people want to leave. I see life as being so pointless as well and it is horrifying the thought of having to exist until old age.
The elderly are masochists.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Finn_tasia
veryhappyhuman

veryhappyhuman

Specialist
Aug 25, 2021
340
You wouldn't care about inflation and sociopathic politicians who do affect your life? LOL
I wouldn't obsess or think deeply over it. Maybe it'd come up in one of the myriad discussions I have with my pals over drinks or whatever. Just objectively looking at it, politicians have always been shit, inflation goes up and down, there have been recessions, culture wars etc etc. There's nothing catastrophically bad happening in the world rn. Certainly not compared to other periods of recent human history where the world could end any minute from nukes or whatever. So to a normal person, the world situation by itself shouldn't seem ctb worthy.

BUT that said, if you're already depressed, and read about these things, the depression acts as an enhancer and make these things seem 10x worse and ctb worthy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NoLightRemains, Journeytoletgo, hopelessdreams and 1 other person
J

Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
IMO these things would bother you only if you have no other attachments to the world and have time to reflect on the state of the world etc. If I have dozens of friends who I'm in regular contact with, have an active social life, a life partner, great career etc etc and in general lead a fulfilled life, then I wouldn't give a shit about woke bs or celebs or whatever. But that's just me.
Exactly those with a huge social circle, career, and life partner don't care about any of this
 
  • Like
Reactions: veryhappyhuman, NoLightRemains, Lost in a Dream and 2 others
Fadeawaaaay

Fadeawaaaay

Visionary
Nov 12, 2021
2,160
I know few people who are taking their own lives… Most people I know seem pretty happy… I'm an outlier
 
Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
1,683
I know few people who are taking their own lives… Most people I know seem pretty happy… I'm an outlier
No we are normal! They are sick and delusional. This society is an aberration. We were supposed to be hunter gatherers. I'm convinced that's the only society we can find happiness in.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Journeytoletgo
Atlantian

Atlantian

Member
May 25, 2022
69
I wondered the same thing. Some of your questions makes me feel like you have high self awareness, OP. I think those people haven't full committed to the idea of suicide and don't have a full understanding of it. They still view it fr an emotional perspective. And when you're emotional, you react that way. If they were truly suicidal, they would be happy for them.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Weebster
Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
1,683
I wondered the same thing. Some of your questions makes me feel like you have high self awareness, OP. I think those people haven't full committed to the idea of suicide and don't have a full understanding of it. They still view it fr an emotional perspective. And when you're emotional, you react that way. If they were truly suicidal, they would be happy for them.
That makes me wonder. Would having high self-awareness make suicide more difficult to do? I'm thinking it would.

I'm thinking you're right. It's an emotional concept to them much like death itself or being exposed to the idea there isn't a God if they're a religious person.
 
Atlantian

Atlantian

Member
May 25, 2022
69
That makes me wonder. Would having high self-awareness make suicide more difficult to do? I'm thinking it would.

I'm thinking you're right. It's an emotional concept to them much like death itself or being exposed to the idea there isn't a God if they're a religious person.
I think being more self aware makes suicide a stronger poasibility only if the circumstances in your life are undesireable to live in.

If Einstein was born in the ghetto, he might be more likely to ctb

But if he was nurtured and passed onto university and allowed to reach his full potential, then he'd live because he'd see its not as unbearable

It all circles back to life being about random chance and what you're born with. An intelligent bear stuck in a bear trap would kill itself rather than suffer
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eternal🌈Rainbow, NoLightRemains, Lost in a Dream and 1 other person
J

Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
Yeah I know it's unfortunate but they are too busy to care. These topics were unknown to me at one point
No we are normal! They are sick and delusional. This society is an aberration. We were supposed to be hunter gatherers. I'm convinced that's the only society we can find happiness in.
I 100% agree they are sick
 
  • Like
Reactions: Weebster
Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
1,683
I think being more self aware makes suicide a stronger poasibility only if the circumstances in your life are undesireable to live in.

If Einstein was born in the ghetto, he might be more likely to ctb

But if he was nurtured and passed onto university and allowed to reach his full potential, then he'd live because he'd see its not as unbearable

It all circles back to life being about random chance and what you're born with. An intelligent bear stuck in a bear trap would kill itself rather than suffer
That's interesting. Teachers and professors thought I had a bright future. If they could only see me now...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eternal🌈Rainbow
Atlantian

Atlantian

Member
May 25, 2022
69
That's interesting. Teachers and professors thought I had a bright future. If they could only see me now...
I think your future is what you make of it. For example, I'm sure that I suffer from ASPD (sociopath) or some form of schizophrenia. I've decided to exploit my illness and use it as an advantage in society. That's why they call high functioning autism "weaponized autism". Find out who you are and it'll make sense.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Weebster and Journeytoletgo
Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
1,683
I think your future is what you make of it. For example, I'm sure that I suffer from ASPD (sociopath) or some form of schizophrenia. I've decided to exploit my illness and use it as an advantage in society. That's why they call high functioning autism "weaponized autism". Find out who you are and it'll make sense.
I can't even work because of my ocd, so I don't know how to exploit it to earn money.
 
  • Aww..
Reactions: KuriGohan&Kamehameha
KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,801
Exactly those with a huge social circle, career, and life partner don't care about any of this
This is exactly right. Most people stay very busy and don't have the time to heavily contemplate these topics, or they are able to quickly bounce towards a distraction if uncomfortable thoughts arise. For people with happy, fulfilling lives, they are typically engrossed in some sort of activity, and thus these unsavory things can't permeate their minds.

If you have too much time on your hands or become sendatary for whatever reason, you seem to become more prone to ruminating over the bad things in this world, unless they are imminently staring you right in the face. As a child, I would have never even known what suicidal ideation was if my father had not pulled out a gun and tried to shoot himself in front of me.

Likewise, I wouldn't have been inclined to think about all the unsavory aspects of life if I didn't spend most of my existence in bed due to health problems. Engaging with the world in productive, satisfying ways is the only way you can hide from sinister realizations, but often the ones who need that escape the most are unable to partake in it for whatever reason, which goes back to your original question.

I don't think every single user of that subreddit had the capacity to know their loved one was suicidal, either because they didn't have enough time, they didn't take it seriously if they were aware of it, the other party hid it from them well, etc. However, from a cursory glance, I don't think that's the story of the majority.

Many of them were aware that their loved ones were suicidal, however, they were powerless to stop it. I noticed that there is a tendency to say the other party had a "diseased brain" or weren't "in their right mind" but you can tell from a good number of the anecdotes posted on there that many of those who passed on had been suffering for years and years and nothing was attenuating their pain. A far cry from a temporary crisis yielding from an unsound mind.

This attitude is not a fault of those who are grieving, but a consequence of the mainstream narrative that every single suicide is preventable and it cannot ever be a rational decision. One comment even says, ".. But suicide is not like euthanasia. Suicide is an act of extreme violence towards themselves and their immediate circle."

I don't think you could change the mind of someone who holds such a strong conviction about suicide being an extreme act of violence, that it is often a choice one makes after exhausting all other options, and in most cases, there is no underlying maliciousness held towards those in the person's immediate wake.

Fundamentally, I don't think those people can understand unless they have been suicidal themselves and experienced a change of heart. To many of the people on that subreddit, every suicidal person is mentally ill (with depression, as no other mental illnesses seem to ever exist to onlookers) and if only they had taken enough pills and sat through enough therapy, they could've been cured.

I have even seen some posts on there where grieving individuals want to sue other family members or friends for advising their late loved one to stop taking medications or ceasing contact with services they didn't find helpful, prior to their suicide. Unfortunately, many of life's problems cannot be fixed with a pill, as wonderful as it would be if this was true.

I don't think it's possible for people to truly understand the perspective of a hopeless suicidal person when they have no experience with failures in healthcare institutions, and cling to this idea that everyone who experiences suicidality has temporary depression, when this is a false generalisation. The reality that there are many things that would drive someone to ctb is extremely uncomfortable no matter what your belief system is.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: ghqkiiia2, QuietLake, katagiri83 and 3 others
J

Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
This is exactly right. Most people stay very busy and don't have the time to heavily contemplate these topics, or they are able to quickly bounce towards a distraction if uncomfortable thoughts arise. For people with happy, fulfilling lives, they are typically engrossed in some sort of activity, and thus these unsavory things can't permeate their minds.

If you have too much time on your hands or become sendatary for whatever reason, you seem to become more prone to ruminating over the bad things in this world, unless they are imminently staring you right in the face. As a child, I would have never even known what suicidal ideation was if my father had not pulled out a gun and tried to shoot himself in front of me.

Likewise, I wouldn't have been inclined to think about all the unsavory aspects of life if I didn't spend most of my existence in bed due to health problems. Engaging with the world in productive, satisfying ways is the only way you can hide from sinister realizations, but often the ones who need that escape the most are unable to partake in it for whatever reason, which goes back to your original question.

I don't think every single user of that subreddit had the capacity to know their loved one was suicidal, either because they didn't have enough time, they didn't take it seriously if they were aware of it, the other party hid it from them well, etc. However, from a cursory glance, I don't think that's the story of the majority.

Many of them were aware that their loved ones were suicidal, however, they were powerless to stop it. I noticed that there is a tendency to say the other party had a "diseased brain" or weren't "in their right mind" but you can tell from a good number of the anecdotes posted on there that many of those who passed on had been suffering for years and years and nothing was attenuation their pain. A far cry from a temporary crisis yielding from an unsound mind.

This attitude is not a fault of those who are grieving, but a consequence of the mainstream narrative that every single suicide is preventable and it cannot ever be a rational decision. One comment even says, ".. But suicide is not like euthanasia. Suicide is an act of extreme violence towards themselves and their immediate circle."

I don't think you could change the mind of someone who holds such a strong conviction about suicide being an extreme act of violence, that it is often a choice one makes after exhausting all other options, and in most cases, there is no underlying maliciousness held towards those in the person's immediate wake.

Fundamentally, I don't think those people can understand unless they have been suicidal themselves and experienced a change of heart. To many of the people on that subreddit, every suicidal person is mentally ill (with depression, as no other mental illnesses seem to ever exist to onlookers) and if only they had taken enough pills and sat through enough therapy, they could've been cured.

I have even seen some posts on there where grieving individuals want to sue other family members or friends for advising their late loved one to stop taking medications or ceasing contact with services they didn't find helpful, prior to their suicide. Unfortunately, many of life's problems cannot be fixed with a pill, as wonderful as it would be if this was true.

I don't think it's possible for people to truly understand when they have no experience with failures in healthcare institutions, and cling to this idea that everyone who experiences suicidality has temporary depression, when this is a false generalisation. The reality that there are many things that would drive someone to ctb is extremely uncomfortable no matter what your belief system is.
Wow that is sad that your own father pulled out a gun in front of you. I can't imagine the trauma you endured. I read a lot of your post and I truly hate this world that there are humans separated from the crowd through no fault of their own.


Exactly true those with busy social lives don't have time to think of the horrors of the humanity. Most people are actually pretty okay just getting by in life. We are social creatures and need busy social schedule so we don't look at the horrors of humans (bullying, wars, lookism, drug abuse etc)

Loneliness is horrible and I knew it was over the moment I lost the genetic lottery.


Exactly they usually say a diseased brain or whatever other excuse they can come up with in order to counter the fact some people are born genetically unlucky through looks, social skills, family circumstances of abuse and neglect, bullying, sexual assault in childhood etc

We live in a world where everything is flipped a clown world. Only the genetically lucky with looks, social skills, supportive families are the winners while those who lost in these areas are lost and subjected to the harsh brutal institutions of torture
 
  • Love
Reactions: KuriGohan&Kamehameha
NoLightRemains

NoLightRemains

I found my light again. Namu Amida Butsu
Sep 26, 2021
374
No we are normal! They are sick and delusional. This society is an aberration. We were supposed to be hunter gatherers. I'm convinced that's the only society we can find happiness in.
I mostly agree with you, but that's part of why I am here. I, and many others here, have been failed by society on so many levels so we have spent more time being critical of society and noticing the flaws.

I'm kind of jealous of anyone that can acknowledge how shitty the world is and still lead a happy, fulfilling life. Most people seem to just live in willful ignorance.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KuriGohan&Kamehameha and Journeytoletgo