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Kay_Philosopher

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As the subject line says. Please only keep it on this topic and not deter.
 
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my house, id like to destroy a christian before i leave :)
 
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Afghanistan is the only country I can think of. Christian persecution does happen in other Muslim majority countries (Egypt comes to mind) but it's not a guaranteed thing technically.
 
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my house, id like to destroy a christian before i leave :)
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@Kay_Philosopher you really couldn't just do a Google search...
 
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All that effort and for what when there's knives in the draw
 
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@Mr2005 I highly doubt @Kay_Philosopher has the means (money, passport) to actually travel to one of these countries. Someone who did wouldn't need to ask, they could just search or check the news.
 
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Your chances of success would be better off going to a church in the deep south and start spreading heresy/blasphemy. But then you'd be committing actual blasphemy and that might go against your inhibitions.

In a Muslim country, you'd probably get beat up by a mob, the police would "rescue" you and then spend years in jail awaiting trial.
 
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Your chances of success would be better off going to a church in the deep south and start spreading heresy/blasphemy. But then you'd be committing actual blasphemy and that might go against your inhibitions.

In a Muslim country, you'd probably get beat up by a mob, the police would "rescue" you and then spend years in jail awaiting trial.
Unless ISIS got to them first. OP would probably get beheaded on TV.
 
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That is really bad way to ctb. You need to change believe system or find different method.
 
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Kay_Philosopher

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@Mr2005 I highly doubt @Kay_Philosopher has the means (money, passport) to actually travel to one of these countries. Someone who did wouldn't need to ask, they could just search or check the news.
Correct. I am just bad at Googling. So far, I have just heard Afghanistan as the only country. I do have a Passport with blank pages. I just would need to make sure I have at least over $2k. I am broke. Would that be enough to possibly travel to Afghanistan including a Tourist Visa by Winter or something?
Your chances of success would be better off going to a church in the deep south and start spreading heresy/blasphemy. But then you'd be committing actual blasphemy and that might go against your inhibitions.

In a Muslim country, you'd probably get beat up by a mob, the police would "rescue" you and then spend years in jail awaiting trial.
Any idea for Muslim countries you think will do this?
Afghanistan is the only country I can think of. Christian persecution does happen in other Muslim majority countries (Egypt comes to mind) but it's not a guaranteed thing technically.
I see. I do have a Passport with blank pages. I just would need to make sure I have at least over $2k. I am broke. Would that be enough to possibly travel to Afghanistan including a Tourist Visa by Winter or something?
 
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Correct. I am just bad at Googling. So far, I have just heard Afghanistan as the only country. I do have a Passport with blank pages. I just would need to make sure I have at least over $2k. I am broke. Would that be enough to possibly travel to Afghanistan including a Tourist Visa by Winter or something?

Any idea for Muslim countries you think will do this?
give up this idea . God does not want you to suffer.
 
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I said at the beginning to please not deter. This is going on a tangent and irrelevant to the question at hand.
Do you want me to show what can happen to you? Will you please listen
I am worried dude, this is seriously dangerous
 
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Arsenal14

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The thing is if you're doing it to receive a reward from Christ just make sure you're actually saved and know without a doubt that you're going to go to Heaven. The last thing you want is to go through possible torture and death without thinking about all the implications involved and then just end up in Hell anyways.
 
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If you going there with suicidal intent It would be better to stop yourself from doing that. Talk with local priest, or somebody wise you know well.

Besides there is no way you didn't exist for like ever ,appeared for short time, and than were sent into hell for eternity because you made mistake in that short period of time.
 
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Kay_Philosopher

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Do you want me to show what can happen to you? Will you please listen
I am worried dude, this is seriously dangerous
No thanks. I would like to keep the discussion within the bounds of the topic, please.
The thing is if you're doing it to receive a reward from Christ just make sure you're actually saved and know without a doubt that you're going to go to Heaven. The last thing you want is to go through possible torture and death without thinking about all the implications involved and then just end up in Hell anyways.
Yes. I presume you are a Christian? Btw, any ideas on the topic above?
If you going there with suicidal intent It would be better to stop yourself from doing that. Talk with local priest, or somebody wise you know well.

Besides there is no way you didn't exist for like ever ,appeared for short time, and than were sent into hell for eternity because you made mistake in that short period of time.
Can we please keep the discussion only within the bounds of the topic above? Thanks.
Do you have any ideas or answers for my question?
 
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maybe you could try a place with educated, scientifically oriented people and tell them you are a christian. someone will surely mock you to death.
 
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Almost two years ago two white women were murdered in their sleep without any provocation whatsoever in the outskirts of Morocco, by Islamic extremists. Three were directly involved in the killing but twenty four individuals were taken into custody. From the reporting neither was Christian, and yet they had this done to them, so imagine how such individuals would react to a known Christian or one attempting to convert others to the faith.
 
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@Kay_Philosopher I think this is a great pursuit for you. Please try your best to actually make it happen :)
 
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Kay_Philosopher

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Almost two years ago two white women were murdered in their sleep without any provocation whatsoever in the outskirts of Morocco, by Islamic extremists. Three were directly involved in the killing but twenty four individuals were taken into custody. From the reporting neither was Christian, and yet they had this done to them, so imagine how such individuals would react to a known Christian or one attempting to convert others to the faith.
Interesting, in the outskirts of Morocco?
 
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@Kay_Philosopher the article said the outskirts but the actual murder took place in a cave on the atlas mountain which is near the outskirts.
 
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EOL4ME

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Just hop a flight to Afghanistan and when you get off the plane wave a big American flag whilst proclaiming you're a Christian .... that'll do it ...
 
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Kay_Philosopher

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@Kay_Philosopher I think this is a great pursuit for you. Please try your best to actually make it happen :)
Sorry? How do you know it is a great pursuit for me if I may ask?
Just hop a flight to Afghanistan and when you get off the plane wave a big American flag whilst proclaiming you're a Christian .... that'll do it ...
I live in America. I will have to reach out to the Embassy of Afghanistan in Washington DC to see if one can travel under a Tourist Visa.
I will let you know tomorrow once they open.
@Kay_Philosopher the article said the outskirts but the actual murder took place in a cave on the atlas mountain which is near the outskirts.
I see. Thanks for the info. Right now, it looks like Afghanistan is the only viable and plausible country.
 
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Serious answer: North Sentinel Island.

It won't be easy to get to. But the inhabitants want no contact with the outside world and have previously killed Christian missionaries who attempted to make contact. They are dangerous people who will kill anyone who comes near their island.

 
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Arsenal14

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Yes. I presume you are a Christian? Btw, any ideas on the topic above?
Yes I'm a Christian. Tbh I think it's a bad idea not only because of the potential to be tortured or to be beaten in prison but I feel like due to the publicity that you would almost certainly receive being an American Evangelical that's persecuted in a Muslim country, I feel as if it would work against you because many people would work tirelessly to exonerate you and that would defeat the whole purpose of you wanting to CTB.
 
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Kay_Philosopher

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Jun 21, 2021
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Israel if you wanna be tortured. Kosovo maybe or Albania. Egypt perhaps.
Interesting, Israel, Kosovo, and Albania? I thought those were more religious tolerant countries. Even Egypt as well. Maybe you can fact check that one for me? I know most of those have little persecutions against Christians.
Serious answer: North Sentinel Island.

It won't be easy to get to. But the inhabitants want no contact with the outside world and have previously killed Christian missionaries who attempted to make contact. They are dangerous people who will kill anyone who comes near their island.

Interesting, however, I believe that it is impossible to get to that Island. It is rare for anyone to be able to enter unless you are working under national or government agencies.
Yes I'm a Christian. Tbh I think it's a bad idea not only because of the potential to be tortured or to be beaten in prison but I feel like due to the publicity that you would almost certainly receive being an American Evangelical that's persecuted in a Muslim country, I feel as if it would work against you because many people would work tirelessly to exonerate you and that would defeat the whole purpose of you wanting to CTB.
Yeah, however, I am banking on the idea that most won't find out. What are your thoughts on Afghanistan? I will have to reach out to the Embassy of Afghanistan in Washington DC to see if one can travel under a Tourist Visa. Do you believe that is a viable place?
 
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Martyrdom is the lazy coward's way out! Bad pro-lifer, bad!

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Kay_Philosopher

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Israel you'd get murdered in the streets trying to preach Christ's word. Israel is the most racist supremest country in the world . Kosovo is Islamic hotspot since the war with Serbia. Same with Albania.
Interesting, I did not know that. I will need to do more research. Right now, it seems like Afghanistan is the only plausible country.
 
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Kay_Philosopher

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Jun 21, 2021
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Afghanistan isn't actually that bad. This is media hype. The Taliban are rough mainly rough on Shia Muslims. Tribal sectarianism. It's highly unlikely they'd murder a western Christian man because of potential Pr backlash.
Oh, wow. I did not know about that. What are your thoughts about just mobs forming to martyr an American Christian man? Do you believe that won't happen even under Sharia Law? I just feel that is more likely than the other countries you have listed. Probably because I haven't heard much cases happening to Christians who are native to those countries and those who are visitors(AKA Tourists/American Missionaries). The reason why I think this is because the Governments of those countries seem to uphold justice regardless of any religion, and I doubt they would touch an American Tourist even if they are doing Christian evangelism. Do you believe it would even be possible for an American Christian? I presume they would recognize me and tell I am American which reduces the probability of being mobbed, killed, persecuted, etc, even lower because they may fear even trying to touch me maybe? What are your thoughts?

I agree with the Taliban sectarianism position. I am dubious about the fact that they are even hunting Christians down to persecute or obtain a forceful conversion. My best bet is to go to Kabul, however, I don't know if street preaching or preaching the Gospel with a sign and tracts would trigger them to do anything since most won't care to hurt or touch a foreigner because of American troops withdrawing as they are most likely tentative to want to do anything to me since they don't want to cause a large incident to an American tourist if that makes sense. I may just be reasoning off a slippery slope, however, I don't the Taliban would do anything. Maybe people? However, I doubt that too since I am American as aforementioned.
 

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