When people partial hang they always succeed if they really want to...

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

Kinda odd method, why not just use willpower to complete the most common suicide method used throughout human history instead of wasting time on some obscure fantasy method that basically never happens? Partial is the king suicide method and will remain so for the foreseeable future, nothing else comes close...(most kills)

Willpower will stop you from even attempting your fantasy technique, you'll likely realize how silly it is if you ever get all the materials and 'attempt'.

long drop was literally the most common method used for haning when it came to execution. how is that a fantasy technique? and regarding the car we even have a megathread https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/decapitation.10747/

the are non doubt methods which have a higher lethal rate then hanging. like you already said if you are not really determined you can forget about partial hanging. and determenition is just another word for willpower.

The 'problem' like I think you alluded to is that partial gives you the ability to 'abort' an attempt whereas others don't have that, if you overcome that and die by partial it's clear you had an intense conviction to die.

so yes willpower is the most deciding factor.

 

[Jon86]

long drop was literally the most common method used for haning when it came to execution. how is that a fantasy technique? and regarding the car we even have a megathread https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/decapitation.10747/

the are non doubt methods which have a higher lethal rate then hanging. like you already said if you are not really determined you can forget about partial hanging. and determenition is just another word for willpower.



so yes willpower is the most deciding factor.

So you are getting judicially hanged by a skilled executioner? That's not suicide it's execution, the majority of hangings are OVERWHELMINGLY partial, not full, not long drop decapitation. Willpower is needed for every method......partial has more fails but fails that often lead to success, whereas full suspension, sharp rope driving decapitation technique, bandsaw decapitation etc. most often just never happens.

The majority of suicides are people who die at the end of a rope while there still technically on the ground, they died because they had the willpower that you and me have yet to find.

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

So you are getting judicially hanged by a skilled executioner? That's not suicide it's execution, the majority of hangings are OVERWHELMINGLY partial, not full, not long drop decapitation. Willpower is needed for every method......partial has more fails but fails that often lead to success, whereas full suspension, sharp rope driving decapitation technique, bandsaw decapitation etc. most often just never happens.

The majority of suicides are people who die at the end of a rope while there still technically on the ground, they died because they had the willpower that you and me have yet to find.

majority of people choose partial hanging over the long drump because he needs less willpower to lean in a rope compared to jumping from 6m high bridge into certain death

if willpower wasnt a factor noone would choose partial hanging over a long drop

partial hanging is a good compromise between lethality and the amount of willpower you need i admit it though

 

[Jon86]

majority of people choose partial hanging over the long drump because he needs less willpower to lean in a rope compared to jumping from 6m high bridge into certain death

if willpower wasnt a factor noone would choose partial hanging over a long drop

partial hanging is a good compromise between lethality and the amount of willpower you need i admit it though

Have you failed at partial? I have, this debate reminds me of 8chan. It comes from bitterness and failure, I understand it deeply, at the end of the day it doesn't matter, we failed because like you said we lacked willpower, partial works. In a way I like how I get to decide more deeply with partial as you have to actively fight your SI (it's not just a split second action) although I hate it as well

 

[DoneWithThis]

I just saw this headline and it reminded me of this thread.

'Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is found 'semi-conscious with neck injuries' in his jail cell following a 'possible suicide attempt', a week after he was denied bail in his sex trafficking trial'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-cell-following-possible-suicide-assault.html

So, it appears you were wrong OP, this man has a damn good reason to die, he failed. Also, i'll add War Machine the mma fighter in prison for savagely beating his gf had a failed hanging attempt as well. When men attempt at home, they don't advertise there failed attempt, in prison they don't have that luxury. The Unabomber also had a failed hanging in prison as well.

So, no, you are wrong OP, these men clearly wanted to die but failed. Anyone whose, done serious research into hangings know of the other failed attempts that lead to permanent brain damage etc. I wish it easy, it is NOT. I understand your feelings though, you feel like a failure as you have failed to end your existence, so you think your a 'pussy' or 'weak'. Suicide is not easy, nor is it simply defined, many people live on in purgatory trapped between life and death, the suicide attempt to death ratio is so damn high for a reason.

Imagine going up to one of those golden gate bridge jumper survivors while they're laying there in the hospital. Going in and out of consciousness. He asks me. "What happened?" And I tell them that. You failed. You just didn't have the willpower to succeed buddy. Apparently you're just not taking this very seriously. Looks like you didn't want it bad enough. And if he punched me in the face, I would find it a completely reasonable reaction.

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

Have you failed at partial? I have, this debate reminds me of 8chan. It comes from bitterness and failure, I understand it deeply, at the end of the day it doesn't matter, we failed because like you said we lacked willpower, partial works. In a way I like how I get to decide more deeply with partial as you have to actively fight your SI (it's not just a split second action) although I hate it as well

are you projecting here? why should i emotional invested in a suicide method that i would be bitter about a failed attempt?

you on the other hand seem quite emotional triggered just because i state the obvious - others i cant explain the passiv aggressiv comments with a slight ad hominem touch you make here..

you need less willpower for partial hanging compared to method full of certainity like jumping from the 12th floor of a building or the long drop hanging - how is that even a debate?

 

[Tortured_empath]

We only hear about the attempts that succeed, which makes it sound so very easy. We have no idea how many times that these famous people may have tried to kill themselves and failed. Given the extreme difficulty that most of us face, and how most suicide attempts fail, it seems reasonable to suspect that famous folks may also have had difficulty getting dead.

Conversely, the people that succeeded don't come back to post threads here, so you don't hear about them. Survivorship's bias works both ways.

 

[shootemallagain]

suicide is a pure question of will. everyone (given their not in a mental hospital, prison or physical handicpapped) could choose a hard method like jumping from a certain height, decapitation or long drop. this garantuees a certain death.





why go evry one for partial?? full haning is easy and better in 1min you are out

 

[willitpass]

As someone who survived partial by unconscious survival instinct, I find this post rather insensitive. I did everything right, and the first time I laid down and put my weight onto my neck I was out instantly. And then I woke up standing. My body had managed to stand itself fully upright to get the weight off of my neck. So I tried again. And again. And again. I think I tried somewhere around 8 times. I thrashed so hard while unconscious that I had tipped heavy things over, I would wake up literally gasping for air, my nose was bleeding heavily. But I was determined. By the 8th time that I woke up, the pressure in my head was indescribable. I tried to put the weight back on my neck because I had a feeling that if I passed out again that would be it. But I physically could not do it, the pain was so bad my body would not let me. I tried for probably 15 minutes to get my body to let me pass back out. So it was not for a lack of willpower. The amount of willpower and desire to die it takes to go through that should not be discounted just because you fail. Survival instinct is engrained in the most primitive parts of our brain.

 

[CW36]

Partial is halfhearted, if you really want it go full, end of.