Discussion When is suicidal ideation 'untreatable'?

[ImogenHeap]

When is it just too late to stop having thoughts of CTB? Where your best hope as a doctor to stop someone's ideation is just nothing? Like some kind of terminal illness.

I can't really find much online on this. I'm curious if anyone knows something about this.

Edit: I should note I'm looking for pscyh papers on this particular topic.

 

[auti]

I've suffered from chronic ideation and this topic has come up a lot. Honestly they don't know what to do with you at that point. They kinda just sent me on my way cause what the fuck else do you do? Just send me over to the next program

 

[ImogenHeap]

I've suffered from chronic ideation and this topic has come up a lot. Honestly they don't know what to do with you at that point. They kinda just sent me on my way cause what the fuck else do you do? Just send me over to the next program

Is there anything in the literature about this?

 

[Pale_Rider]

Agrees with the second opinion.

And wtf it's not their choice to make anyways.

Acting like a sound mind is a mental illness, because it comes to a conclusion they don't agree with was their first mistake.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Suicidal ideation itself isn't an illness it's the reaction to unbearable circumstances. Unless the circumstances that make you suicidal change there's no cure. I further believe that if we are exposed to such unbearable circumstances for too long, suicidal thoughts and thought loops are "burned" into brain. Without changing or eliminating the triggers there's not much a doctor can actually to. That's when suicidal ideation becomes chronic. The brain cannot be reset or formatted. That's my opinion on this.