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Always acceptable. If society forbids people from using peaceful methods, then they shouldn't be mad if they use more brutal methods. Why should I care anyway? I'm dead! And they don't care about me anyway; they only care about being too late when the train comes late.
Always acceptable. If society forbids people from using peaceful methods, then they shouldn't be mad if they use more brutal methods. Why should I care anyway? I'm dead! And they don't care about me anyway; they only care about being too late when the train comes late.
Understood. I somewhat agree. But If I have a shotgun, that has a higher success rate and doesn't harm others in anyway, so that's what I'd go with if I got the option.
If I don't have assisted suicide service or shogun then train becomes acceptable to me tbh.
I think as long as you can't do it any other way, it's acceptable. I personally find it hard to believe that anyone, or at least a significant amount of people, would even be traumatised by seeing it. I've heard "My train stopped because someone jumped in front" plenty of times. It's more of an annoyance to the people involved than anything else, which is why my biggest worry would be the delay it'd cause.
I think as long as you can't do it any other way, it's acceptable. I personally find it hard to believe that anyone, or at least a significant amount of people, would even be traumatised by seeing it. I've heard "My train stopped because someone jumped in front" plenty of times. It's more of an annoyance to the people involved than anything else, which is why my biggest worry would be the delay it'd cause.
As someone who has faced this possibility, here are my thoughts. I was brought into this world where many things exist that can hurt me, like stepping in front of a bus by accident. The way I see it, people eat animals, there is war, starvation, disease, etc... and jumping in front of a train seems to be a rather small act when compared to the chaos of the lives of approx 8 billion hoomans.
I've been to places, in the dark of night (this was many years ago) on a trainline where there was a small gate for crossing where high speed trains move through the countryside. I remember thinking, it was so dark, the track was so accessible, the train would probably never feel the bump of hitting me. I think now, if there was any feeling in the train, it might feel like a fox or dear was hit. It would be so dark and so late in this secluded area, I don't think much disruption would happen.
I have read about drivers who suffer after incidents... it's impossible to do without it being a genuine accident, for the sake of the driver... but... if he thought he hit an animal in the small hours of the night in the middle of nowhere speeding at full steam towards the city stations... would it be the same? As opposed to a person? Probably... people are wired differently about people... society has created such a stigma over human life and the guilt is almost societal guilt...
But, sometimes, I still think a method is a method... it's the CTB'ers fault... no one elses... if someone happens to be driving the proverbial bus... it's not their fault...
Also driverless trains exist...
It's hard to say... if someone did it... (which people do, it happens in 3rd world countries a lot), they did it... but yeah I wouldn't want to make someone else feel responsible like it was their fault I suppose.
I refuse to shame someone for their choice on how to die, but I do think that there are options you can take before considering traumatizing the driver and people on the train.
in my opinion It should be a last resort
I don't think it's ever morally "acceptable" because it's obviously going to cause some sort of distress towards other people who had no connection to you otherwise. And it may even traumatise people, especially the train driver. But, having said that, if someone's gonna jump in front of a train they must be in a very difficult situation themselves that most people can't even comprehend so more than anything I feel bad for them
People have hurt me plenty, but god forbid I touch other people's perfect little lives.
Fuck them. If this is the only bad thing that happens to them, then they're lucky bastards.
I would feel horrible doing a rail suicide. I badly don't want to, but sometimes it's extremely hard to resist, and the only reason is because there's a railroad track practically right next to where I live like a 2 minute walk and I can easily keep track of the trains schedule. I've also tried hanging so many times and can't get past the SI. and have nowhere high enough to jump from. Sometimes when I'm really suicidal it's just hard not to when in so much pain but I know I can't I really shouldn't. I would hate myself more than what I I Already do and I want to leave as little negative impact as possible on people
Well, I have a fatalistic view of existence, and if people really gave a fuck about trauma then we'd stop dismantling our social support systems in the developed world, stop with populism and nationalism and all that bullshit--I think if the worst trauma you've got is a suicide you saw then you should be lucky and stay ignorant of the nature of the society into which you were born, stay ignorant of the homeless people you walk by every day without seeing, ignorant of the abused women, the murder victims who the entire world forgot--you know?
The absolute hubris of putting yourself first in that situation when you just witnessed the one immutable fact of a conscious existence--that it must end. It's the laws of nature. And when I look into people who have witnessed some fucked up shit--you know, Cambodians, ex-USSR countries in the Balkans, those people are still alive and you can find out how they cope--I think I identify the same acceptance.
People who witness things they don't want to, they can accept, they can cope, they can recover. Those who can, will. Those who can't, were not prepared. Nobody writes every word in their own story.
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