When does the train suicide method become morally acceptable to you? (Poll)

[The Schizoid]

Some people are strongly against train suicide, I'm just asking this question because I'd like to get an idea as to how many of you feel the train suicide method is acceptable or not.
Please think hard about your choice.

 

[Gonnerr]

There is still other methods such as hypothermia, dying from heat in a desert, vsed.

But if that's the only option left , yes.

 

[FuneralCry]

Always, actually I admire those who choose this method they are courageous and brave. I find it insensitive when people complain about others using this method, like sorry but other people's suicide is absolutely nothing to do with you, pro-lifers who hate on suicidal people and cannot mind their own business are annoying. It disgusts me when they make it all about the driver when we exist in this evil world where there is the absence of guaranteed, peaceful suicide methods available for all.

 

[onbekend]

There really is always another way to die, I would never CTB via train not because of how painful it is but because I'd likely be traumatizing the train operator, and anyone who can see it through a horrifically violent method.

 

[Selbstentleibung]

I used to work as a locomotive engineer for many years. I don't care if someone chooses to CTB but heck don't do it by train. Your choice is to the disadvantage of hundreds of passengers plus you cause major trouble for our dispatchers, customers and basically everyone involved with the train because that train ain't going anywhere for at least a few hours. Depending on the available infrastructure this can cause major trouble on the line, congestion and chaos lasting for days. Just don't do it.

 

[rozeske]

I think every. possible. method needs to vanish for me to even consider this method. It might even be easier for me to love my life and keep going than resorting to this method :)

 

[Captive_Mind515]

I think some people have some sort of fetish for going by train (if that's the correct terminology?).

I wouldn't judge, if there were no innocents involved in the act.

It's a strange method to pick over almost anything else available. It's almost like a public display to show the world something or send some sort of message… maybe I'm wrong, but this is my perception.

 

[kotonearisato]

Personally, I could never. Things might have gone badly in my life, but I couldn't go out peacefully knowing I might have just ruined some stranger's life just because of my own issues. My only caveat is if it's one of those autonomous trains where there's no one operating it. They're not common, but they do exist.

 

[Ironborn]

If there are no other options available then I could understand but I will never condone it.
Always been one to keep my problems to myself, will do the same in death.

 

[Tokugawa_Yoshinobu]

I don't mind this as a way to die because it can kill you and is effective seeing how brutal it is.
But it's more a case of should you? I wouldn't because there are barely any trains in my area. Many things can go wrong. I don't want public attention.

 

[d3ad]

Always, actually I admire those who choose this method they are courageous and brave. I find it insensitive when people complain about others using this method, like sorry but other people's suicide is absolutely nothing to do with you, pro-lifers who hate on suicidal people and cannot mind their own business are annoying. It disgusts me when they make it all about the driver when we exist in this evil world where there is the absence of guaranteed, peaceful suicide methods available for all.

I agree. If there were railways near where I live, I would def choose it.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I think it's always acceptable. That said, if there were to be peaceful methods available, I'd find it weird that one would choose the train method over euthanasia but to each their own

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Only if the train is autonomous and nobody is on board, otherwise you're making an innocent feel responsible for your death. I'm against train attempts because they can go wrong and cause additional suffering too, and a ctb by train is probably going to cause some chaos one way or another even if it's autonomous.

If somebody used this method because they felt they had no other way, I wouldn't judge them, though. This is my personal opinion. I've known people who attempted by train. If it was easier to ctb, than nobody would have to.

 

[UKscotty]

Never acceptable. The driver and passengers do not deserve the mess of a mangled corpse.

There is simply no excuse for this method, there are plenty of peaceful methods out there that don't impact others. Anything less is just BS excuses.

 

[Hollowman]

I used to work as a locomotive engineer for many years. I don't care if someone chooses to CTB but heck don't do it by train. Your choice is to the disadvantage of hundreds of passengers plus you cause major trouble for our dispatchers, customers and basically everyone involved with the train because that train ain't going anywhere for at least a few hours. Depending on the available infrastructure this can cause major trouble on the line, congestion and chaos lasting for days. Just don't do it.

That's not always the case. In my area there's a lot of slow moving freight trains. A person could put their neck on the track far back from the engineer. It'd be tricky while the trains moving but it's doable.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Morally acceptable? No. We shouldn't be led astray with sympathy for the person's desperation when answering this question.

Suicide a lot of ethical nuance attached to it but there are still some unambiguous, thick lines.

, like sorry but other people's suicide is absolutely nothing to do with you, pro-lifers who hate on suicidal people and cannot mind their own business are annoying.

Except by choosing to engage in a public suicide like that you you are actively making it about them too...

 

[The Schizoid]

Despite my vote in the poll I can't change my belief that train jumpers end up going to the cobalt mines of hell for many centuries.

No evidence so belief not of any worth

 

[cupcakesandmilk]

Reading this thread has me convinced that I have zero methods lmao.

 

[ctbcat]

morality is stupid anyway. oversimplified sentence and obviously there's exceptions to that rule, but that's what i believe anyway. if it's the easiest way out for you, and you want a final 'fuck you' to the world... sure. though, it does seem intensely painful based on some fails i've saw through gore sites.

 

[F&Inside]

Method I discarded in my darkest moments, impossible to involve someone else with my personal decision, I put myself in those people's shoes, harming them horrifies me.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Personally speaking, I hope I would never choose this method. Even jumping (where people could potentially witness it) seems preferable to involving someone as directly as this. That's just my feeling though- for me. It's up to other people what they choose to do. I feel desperately sorry for people who go out by this method. It seems unfair to lay all the blame on them if they were so utterly desperate. Personally though- I don't think I could do it.

Same goes for death by cop. You have no idea who will show up for work that day. They could be some callous shit who kills you and doesn't give it a second thought. Or- it could haunt them the rest of their days.

I can sort of understand the reasoning though. This world is shit and cruel. People are cold and unfeeling to me- why should I give a shit about them? I guess it's because- at any given moment and especially that one- we get the opportunity to try and minimise our negative impact on others. Really, any suicide that isn't in a clinic is going to be bad but- it can be horrifically bad or not quite so traumatising. We do get to choose there. I'd prefer to try and go the less traumatising for others route.

 

[Goku Black]

Wouldn't it be better to leave as little collateral damage as possible, I don't know, it seems morally unacceptable if it means it'll harm others and their own way of life when I'm attempting to end my own at their inconvenience but maybe that's just me, I'd rather just leave as little as possible left behind even if I know people do resort to this method regardless.

 

[EyesOfNight]

It was the first method I thought of years ago. If I don't have a better alternative when the time calls for it then it will be my method of choice. There is simply no coming back from decapitation and every other method has a possible risk that I would have to take.
I prefer to OD on opiates in a hospital but that's not gonna be an option for a long time.

 

[Tzu]

I think it's a needlessly trauma inducing method and where possible you should do your best to minimise trauma to others (although that can never be mitigated completely with any method).

I would guess the majority of train suicides are impulsive/snap decisions, I have more sympathy for those quick situations where people acted not realising the potential impact on others vs someone who recognises the impact in advance and proceeds anyway.

 

[The Schizoid]

Wouldn't it be better to leave as little collateral damage as possible, I don't know, it seems morally unacceptable if it means it'll harm others and their own way of life when I'm attempting to end my own at their inconvenience but maybe that's just me, I'd rather just leave as little as possible left behind even if I know people do resort to this method regardless.

If it was jumping in front of a car, I'd understand as it will likely cause a crash.

But other passengers are not likely to see it, just the driver. If you have a lack of other methods, then it seems it may be the only way you can secure a quick death,

 

[Goku Black]

you have a lack of other methods, then it seems it may be the only way you can secure a quick death,

That's why I said:

even if I know people do resort to this method regardless.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

It's not the best method but in reality many ppl only have noose or jumping as an alternative.

 

[Darkover]

it's the government's fault because there was no other option available to them.

 

[tsumihoroboshi]

Ohhhh,, this one cuts deep for me. That's always been my preferred method (bcus of delusion related reasons) and my psychs know about that. However, where I live, it simply isn't possible. The trains here are incredibly slow as they're just for cargo. Slow to the point that it wouldn't be quick and painless. I also am not in the habit of furthering inconveniencing others by trying anything in public. I've tried jumping into traffic. That was my first real attempt. It's not something I'd do again just for the simple fact it gets too many randos involved that didn't do anything to deserve to witness something so traumatic.

I believed it could work as a last ditch effort if there is truly no other way, but I'm kind of on the fence about it now though, seeing the other replies. As in--definitely no longer a method I have an interest in trying.

 

[CoffeeN]

I think I have heard somewhere about it in Japan(it's common to ctb via train ). The railway comittee sometimes charge the family of the deceased,to pay for the trouble the deceased caused. In my opinion, children will see it + if the train is stopped for ur sake the passengers will beat u to ur death. Either way u will cause trouble to others and if u r alive , permanent damage forever.