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withouthope

Member
Jun 25, 2023
45
I used N2O cartridges to fill the device and makes sure it doesn’t leak.

I’m aware of that thread and have spoken to him several times. Very nice person to talk with.
So, what do you think was the issue with his and that other person’s rebreather?

Btw, haven’t seen any activity from him in a week. He might be gone (via SCUBA).
 
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Wyldfyre4948

Waiting for my bus
Jul 12, 2023
314
Something wasn't sealed correctly with their devices and it was causing gas to leak from somewhere. There was another user (Zeusman) who had the device and tested it successfully, and he potentially used it to ctb. Zeusman hasn't been active for over a month last I'd seen. It would be heartbreaking if jacrispy was gone, but thats the point of this forum. If he's gone then hopefully it was a peaceful transition to the afterlife.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Praestat mori, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
2,755
My method of choice is CO with charcoal bc everything needed is easily available and it's a quite peaceful method. I would consider drug/med ODs instead if it was easier for me to get the needed meds / drugs prescribed. But that's very unlikely.
 
MatthieuFrederickW

MatthieuFrederickW

Student
Feb 6, 2023
132
I think, that's just a myth spread by pro-lifers.

I clearly remember how I did my experiments with holding a breathe after hyperventilation. I wanted to figure out how much time I can resist against the desire to breathe, and I used a clock for measurements. Usually I gave up after 2:00 - 2:20 due to discomfort, but once I passed beyond 3:00 and noticed that the desire to breathe started weaken. Then I reached 3:40 when I noticed that I'm going to lose my consciousness soon, and only then I stopped my experiment, because I had no intentions to die or harm myself .

Nothing in that experience could remind me a despair. It's just a moderate uncomfortable feeling that you can endure like a pain which you have when your finger blood is taken for analysis.
Did you ever manage to pass out through hyperventilating then doing breath hold for several minutes? If so, how long did you hyperventilate for? Did you hold you breath on a full inhale or release most of the air then Hold your breath? Really would like to know the right technique so shallow water blackout is a potential method to use
 
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Dying Knight

Dying Knight

Member
Sep 17, 2023
82
Did you ever manage to pass out through hyperventilating then doing breath hold for several minutes?
I didn't ever lose consciousness due to hyperventilation. The maximal effect of intensive breathing I had is uncomfortable feeling in the head and limbs.
Did you hold you breath on a full inhale or release most of the air then Hold your breath? Really would like to know the right technique so shallow water blackout is a potential method to use
I held my breath on a full inhale, because my goal was to achieve a longer time without breathing, hence I tried to keep the maximal amount of oxygen in my lungs. I can't tell if this tactics would work optimally for suicidal purposes.
I'm also suspicious about VSED info spread by pro lifers, like, is it really that painful
There is another reason why I don't believe in the hard strength of hypercapnia symptoms. I tried to search mentions of successfully committed suicides with the use of a bag in my country, and I found a few cases when it was done by young girls under 18. In all cases, the described method didn't mention inert gases.

Young females are generally much less tolerant to a pain than adult men, and despite this those girls somehow managed to endure the suffer. If they were able to do this, why the hell can't we do the same, lol?
 
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MatthieuFrederickW

Student
Feb 6, 2023
132
I didn't ever lose consciousness due to hyperventilation. The maximal effect of intensive breathing I had is uncomfortable feeling in the head and limbs.

I held my breath on a full inhale, because my goal was to achieve a longer time without breathing, hence I tried to keep the maximal amount of oxygen in my lungs. I can't tell if this tactics would work optimally for suicidal purposes.

There is another reason why I don't believe in the hard strength of hypercapnia symptoms. I tried to search mentions of successfully committed suicides with the use of a bag in my country, and I found a few cases when it was done by young girls under 18. In all cases, the described method didn't mention inert gases.

Young females are generally much less tolerant to a pain than adult men, and despite this those girls somehow managed to endure the suffer. If they were able to do this, why the hell can't we do the same, lol?
It’s that dreaded hypercapnic alarm response feeling that I wish I could learn to bypass or deal with it mentally then I’d wouldn’t mind a method such as SWB at all. I wonder if those girls took anything to make it less insufferable or did they just put bag on head and that’s it? If only it were that easy lol.
 
jar-baby

jar-baby

Experienced
Jun 20, 2023
208
I'll go with SN since it's all i've got but (though I'm not an expert on firearms) gunshot sounds ideal to me. Assuming (like with all other methods) the correct technique is used (correct caliber, type of gun, aimed at the medulla oblongata... etc.), death is instantaneous. The same can't be said for most methods. I guess I also like the idea of actually having to pull the trigger while holding it to my head— sounds a lot harder than drinking something or inhaling gas, so I think it'd help ensure I have complete conviction in my decision.
 
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Dying Knight

Member
Sep 17, 2023
82
I wonder if those girls took anything to make it less insufferable or did they just put bag on head and that’s it? If only it were that easy lol.
I've read about a 19 years old woman who used a bag in combination with meds. Some people used handcuffs to prevent attempts to pull the bag off. For most other people, including 3 girls under 18, the description of the method didn't mention a use of any supplementary means. I can offer you some proof links in PM, if you want. They are however in non-English language, so you may need to translate the text for understanding it.

Note also that meds is not the only possible method to weaken your reflexes. For example, you may deprive yourself from a sleep for 36 hours, so you would feel yourself very sleepy.
 
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ClownWorld2023

Member
Sep 18, 2023
42
Nitrogen exit bag.

Hope it'll be good.
 
MatthieuFrederickW

MatthieuFrederickW

Student
Feb 6, 2023
132
I've read about a 19 years old woman who used a bag in combination with meds. Some people used handcuffs to prevent attempts to pull the bag off. For most other people, including 3 girls under 18, the description of the method didn't mention a use of any supplementary means. I can offer you some proof links in PM, if you want. They are however in non-English language, so you may need to translate the text for understanding it.

Note also that meds is not the only possible method to weaken your reflexes. For example, you may deprive yourself from a sleep for 36 hours, so you would feel yourself very sleepy.
Sleep deprivation could also help. And yes if you could pm the links I’d appreciate that. Anything that can reduce the panic response would be very helpful indeed. Thank you.
 
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MBG

Student
Jul 14, 2023
101
(1) Nitrogen seems like the most civilized method yet. I’m hoping they get all the bugs worked out of the R2D ReBreather before I need it. Use it at home, or drive to a park or beach, tape sheets of paper with “Crime scene. Call police” on it on windows, recline your drivers seat, say a prayer and off you go!

(2) Alabama wants to offer it for executions, maybe before the end of this year.

(3) The Sarco pod will use it, hopefully before the end of this year too.

If all 3 occur this year 2023 will be a turning point.
website is down for me as well.

but where can i get access to pure nitrogen?
@Iva That’s the great thing about the R2D Rebreather lll, it uses multiple small 18 g nitrogen canisters you can easily buy off of Amazon ($40 each), at least if you’re in USA. Don’t know about other counties.
 
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XenoPyo

XenoPyo

눈을 감자
Aug 16, 2023
48
Most favorite method would be CO method due to it being peaceful. Get super inebriated and then sit playing some Zelda as the CO levels go up.
 
Arachno

Arachno

oh no :(
Apr 10, 2023
33
.357 Magnum revolver suicide, but it's kind of hard to a gun where i live, not impossible unlike other european countries, but it's a bit difficult for sure .
 
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Zegers

Misfit
Dec 15, 2021
1,695
Most favorite method would be CO method due to it being peaceful. Get super inebriated and then sit playing some Zelda as the CO levels go up
Common method in Korea and Japan. I was thinking about it one year ago before i had any method.
 
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yelena

Member
Sep 13, 2023
19
In a perfect world? Nembutal. But as we all know, we don't live in a perfect world.

As a kid, I always wanted to mix ammonia and cleaning supplies in the bathroom and make myself pass out into a tub full of water. Drowning sounds a lot less horrific if you're unconscious for it. When I got older, though, I always had an image in my head of myself standing on the ledge of a skyscraper with a gun in my mouth. Lean backwards, then press the trigger-- a little overkill, but I figured if by some chance I survived one, the other would finish the job. Horrific and messy as all hell, but hey. That's what they get for not letting me have the Nembutal.
 
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FreeSpirit1Love

Navigating the storm to my final port
Jul 27, 2023
17
Nembutal would be the best option but that’s not possible. Fent seems like a good option too but also no idea how I would get hands on that. It’s probably gonna be hanging or jumping for me. I’d also do it by train but I don’t wanna hurt the train driver so I guess that also isn’t an option either. Apparently if you do it right hanging suicide can be over real quick? I really want a method that isn’t painful
FWIW: For anyone considering the train option. It traumatizes the others involved, mostly the conductor as ZoloftSuchtig mentioned. A friend of mine is an engineer and this happened to him and really scarred his psyche. Also, I had a friend from middle school try this and survive. He was terribly and painfully injured and deeply regrets it.
 
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FreeSpirit1Love

Navigating the storm to my final port
Jul 27, 2023
17
Website seems to be down now?
I had the same problem. I was ready to the rebrthr today and the link to buy didn't work. Does anyone know a workaround? ;-; I did send them an email and will let you all know what they respond with if they respond. Otherwise, I might have to go back to the drawing board and look at one of those EEBD hoods or GasMonkey's setup thread. (PS, any idea what happened to GasMonkey? They ghosted. 👻)

Anyways, in keeping with the OP, I favor inert gas because of the speed to the final destination as well as not having to worry about vomiting (I hope). I just want to be super careful that I do it right. I am beyond ready to find a workable setup and start buying equipment.

Suggestions are welcome and appreciated... :happy: (The inert gas mega thread is a bit overwhelming.
 
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alterationitfinds

New Member
Sep 21, 2023
1
100-150g of ground apple seeds in quick succession is actually enough to kill a 65-70kg human being from the cyanide poisoning, it feels so stupid and illogical to do it this way but i do think about it a lot