whats the point of living when we are just destined for death?

[Darkover]

don't tell me its to enjoy life because for a lot of people they don't get to enjoy their lifetime

 

[The anhedonic one]

At least 90% of my life has been a process of one form of suffering or another.
Everything has, and is becoming increasingly more difficult.
I can't even experience pleasure anymore because of Anhedonia.
There is absolutely no point in me being here because nothing interests me anymore. Yet, even if I was interested, then I wouldn't even be able to enjoy it.

 

[FuneralCry]

I could never see any point, I only exist as other people decided to cruelly procreate and I'm just waiting until somehow I die, existing is just a futile process of slowly dying where everything will eventually and inevitably be forgotten about in death.

 

[enough of this]

Isn't that like asking, what's the point of eating today if we're just going to be hungry tomorrow?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

That raises the ultimate question: Why did life come into existence at all and what for?

Afaik it's yet still unknown why at some point "dead" molecules started to "reproduce" themselves.

 

[NambaSutra]

That raises the ultimate question: Why did life come into existence at all and what for?

Afaik it's yet still unknown why at some point "dead" molecules started to "reproduce" themselves.

Nobody knows for sure. Some people think it's a divine god. Some people think it's a multiverse with evolution.

 

[Tobacco]

We were unjustly forced to exist.

David Benatar says that we shouldn't have children because we subject them to the greatest harm, which is death.

 

[h0ll0w]

Personally, I don't think like there is a point or a meaning to anything. People can create some form of meaning for themselves to justify their existence or find some personal reason to keep living but in my opinion existence is just a state of being and there's nothing more behind it, it's just the means to describe a situation and nothing more. We as people create a meaning to feel better about our presence here, even if its periodical or fake.

Btw I mean no offense to anyone religious, I'm just speaking about how I see this topic personally.

 

[suicidalloser]

'It's a personal choice.'
-Ryan

So much meaning in one sentence.

 

[CrestfallenMima]

Since no other planet in our observable universe has life on it, I have come to the conclusion that life was a mistake

 

[betternever2havbeen]

I don't know. I feel like if I didn't have all these questions about why we're all here and how did the universe exist then I wouldn't have existential depression. I hate not knowing. At the same time, finding out we're floating on a rock in infinite space is pretty terrifying-how much simpler it'd be to just be an animal in a field and think that's where life begins and ends. Maybe it's better we don't know

 

[locked*n*loaded]

So much meaning in one sentence.

What a profound statement.

 

[MrDarkness]

Some people enjoy life, it's not hard to understand, sure I wanna die, but I can understand why they want to live; they got a family, a good job, a gf etc, I wanna die because I can't obtain a majority of that shit, I'm left to rot, doesn't mean everyone else is left to rot

 

[TAW122]

Objectively speaking, and as a pessimistic nihilist myself, there is no point except the arbitrary value that humans assign towards life. As far as the universe is concerned, we are just sentient beings transferring energy around like all other living things in existence.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Since no other planet in our observable universe has life on it, I have come to the conclusion that life was a mistake

We actually don't know it because our detectors are not able to detect it yet. Life obviously needs certain circumstances and a kind of "protection" to be able to evolve over billions of years. Even though "life" may have happend only once in our milky way and given the fact that there are at least 10^12 other galaxies only in the observable universe it is likely that this may have happend somewhere else, too. But due to distances we will never be able to know about that and vice versa other life forms in other galaxies will never be able to know about us.

Life in general may not be such a big thing the thing is why humans became consciousness? That causes the issues we have to deal with and that causes suffering and all that.

 

[PrematureBurial]

For me, the point is to fight. I'll get to enjoy death soon enough for life is not that long, so while I'm here in this world for whatever reason I might as well actively do something.

I have a case of bipolar so my biggest and hardest struggle in life has always been trying to keep myself generally balanced and not take my life. The thoughts are out of my control sometimes and I have phases, but I take it as a challenge and reason to battle and resist the abyss. Not that I'm fond of this world or life, what I do is a bit masochistic.

I see death as pointless as life, they're categorically the same to me. But the more I suffer and the harder it is to overcome, the more fulfilled I feel when I pick myself up and go again. I embrace suffering in a positive way, like it's a driving force.

 

[jj#blm]

Some people enjoy life, it's not hard to understand, sure I wanna die, but I can understand why they want to live; they got a family, a good job, a gf etc, I wanna die because I can't obtain a majority of that shit, I'm left to rot, doesn't mean everyone else is left to rot

This. Another big one is good health.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yep- life is in some ways just filling time until we die. You're not obliged to find a point to it- clearly. Some people will spend their whole lives thinking it's all meaningless. Whatever we do with our lives- it's the same result coming for all of us. I guess people just try to navigate their lives via the most painless route possible.

Some people- who are still able to enjoy things in life but who do still question- can feel bogged down by Nihilism. So- seeing as it seems to make no difference whether you live a happy or sad, full or empty life- I guess they try to occupy themselves with things THEY find pleasure and meaning in. I guess that usually involves developing themselves. Their mind- in education and hopefully their job. Their mind and body through hobbies and sports. Not saying you have to do that- just that- for some people- that obviously seems to work. (Of course- the tragedy is- many people here have reached the point where it would be incredibly difficult to do this.)

If you're talking about philosophies- say Nihilism vs Existentialism- you're discussing theories and ideas about life and how to view it/ live it. Philosophy seems like religion to me. There isn't a right or wrong- except to the individual who chooses to believe/ not believe. So far as we know- the end result on this planet at least is the same.

So- I doubt you'll be 'rewarded' for working out there's no meaning behind anything. People who did find meaning MAY have a harder time of it when it comes to dying- because MAYBE they won't want to let go. Still- I'm imagining their time here was happier. For most people- the time they spend living is longer than the time they spend dying- so- if they're able to- you can't really fault them for trying to make the best of it.

Do you suppose- if you hadn't been struck down with illness (I'm sorry for that) and you'd been able to develop games and enjoy music- do you suppose you'd still feel the same way?

 

[josephk]

Isn't that like asking, what's the point of eating today if we're just going to be hungry tomorrow?

Not really. Tomorrows hunger can be dealt with by eating again and you can at least make the meal enjoyable. Tomorrows hunger includes within it a point, a continuation of things , whereas death doesn't , therefore rendering things pointless. And if life isn't enjoyable therein lies the problem

 

[sserafim]

don't tell me its to enjoy life because for a lot of people they don't get to enjoy their lifetime

There is no point of living or adulting. Existence itself is meaningless and pointless. There is no meaning to life. I don't see a point in working away your life and becoming a wageslave to capitalism when you'll inevitably reach death anyways.

There's really no reason to have to work or pay bills and taxes, we're only forced to because of society and how it costs money to exist on this planet. All of these things are just meaningless and pointless. They're just things that humanity has artificially created for itself. Money is basically just a bunch of coins or pieces of paper that hold value because we think it holds value, and yet our lives depend on it. It's honestly absurd.

The thing I hate the most is how existence costs money. Everything on this damn planet is about money. None of us chose to be here, yet we have to work to pay to exist. I don't think anyone actually enjoys working for a living, and the fact that we have to *earn* a living. We're all brainwashed to take part in this system, and we don't have a choice because our survival depends on it.

Honestly I think it's better to die before you enter the workforce (that's what I'm planning to do). I really think there's no point in adulthood and I'd rather die now and get it over with. The end result is still death, death is inevitable

 

[ARW3N]

I'm non-religious and don't see a meaning to life. However, the religious concept which terrifies me more than heaven and hell is the idea of reincarnation or transmigration. I don't understand why I'm conscious at all with all the problems that life entails. I would rather not be conscious and put through the unpleasant treadmill of life. I certainly don't want to become conscious on this dreadful earth again after dying.

 

[Namensjemand]

I feel immense shame and guilt for my existence. That death just does away with all of that, making it meaningless, is, besides the end of suffering in general, the most appealing aspect of suicide to me. It doesn't matter, ultimately. You can't win or loose, ultimately. Would it be better if some go to heaven and others to hell? If this life stood not for itself but was a mere performance test to then be rewarded or punished by some God-Person? Sounds pretty fucked up to me. But with life standing for itself, it all isn't too serious in the end, one might argue. And that must not be a bad thing.
Life IS the meaning. Death its mere absence.

IMO the biggest issue in modern life is stable communities sharing a destiny. The WE is a very plentyful source of meaning. A meaning bringing joy, but in an actually heartfelt and lasting manner. That is how it used to work for thousands of years. Modern social models kinda go counter that, making the meaning of life such a pressing issue.

 

[sserafim]

I'm non-religious and don't see a meaning to life. However, the religious concept which terrifies me more than heaven and hell is the idea of reincarnation or transmigration. I don't understand why I'm conscious at all with all the problems that life entails. I would rather not be conscious and put through the unpleasant treadmill of life. I certainly don't want to become conscious on this dreadful earth again after dying.

Sometimes I think I must've been a terrible person in my past life to be born with Asperger's/autism. It's literally a curse. I wonder what past life karma I have to have been cursed with this condition. I wish I could've been a cat in this lifetime. I hate being a conscious being. I honestly hate being a human. Life as a human is dreadful and honestly pointless and meaningless. There's no meaning to this dumb capitalist rat race. Life is just a stupid game. It's honestly absurd.

 

[darkenmydoorstep]

I remember thinking when I was quite young when people want their own homes

"why not just try and get some kind of bedsit because ultimately you will end up alone. Why go though all the expanding and contracting, growing a family in a bigger house only to downsize later, acquiring stuff just for it to be taken away? Best to keep it as minimal as possible"

I still think that really.

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

We are not just destined for death. We have this one life to live and then we die. Life seems to be meaningless but man is the only animal that thinks about this. Everything is limited in time. Everything will die with the passage of time. The Universe will go out too.