Blue Elephant

Blue Elephant

Mage
Sep 22, 2023
519
"I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there.."

"It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth."

This is why you struggle!
 
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DylanNeverEnding

DylanNeverEnding

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Jan 5, 2024
16
I feel that my parents kept me sheltered
 
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TheSpookyNameGuy

TheSpookyNameGuy

There's nothing here..
Apr 30, 2023
646
I would tell them to look at themselves and realise how pathetic and egotistical they are.

The ego to be poor and uneducated and think that you should create a life when you never even had one yourselves is hilarious. To sit watching the TV and follow societal norms like dumb pub-grub automatons is quite repulsive.

My mother has atleast had some form of awakening, she says she wouldn't have kids and believes it's unethical of sorts especially in these times.

My dad is a waste of space, not malicious but entirely stupid without a deep thought, care home for him i shall leave him to rot, his punishment he won't even realise it.

I see his face when i say antinatalist things, dumb sod had his world view cemented and locked in by his mommy and daddy of a bygone time, they were also poor and thick as pig shit, he inherited that.

They got the meh genetics too, but natalists only think of raw dogging and not much else..
 
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Manfrotto99

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Oct 10, 2023
307
My parents where very controlling and judgemental, esp of me. They focused on my weaknesses and didn't value my strengths. They focused on me living up to their expectations of what was right and wrong. They valued society's and others opinions over mine. I didn't matter. I was not allowed to ask why or how. I was wrong if I didn't comply and go along. I was never good enough, I had to be punished and put in line. My life had to evolve around pleasing them and everyone else. I wasn't allowed to be unhappy, it reflected badly on them. I owed them and society. There was no room to learn and grow, I had no confidence, I was fearful, they didn't know me, I didn't know who I was. My parents should not have had kids.

I would of liked them to have been accepting of my strengths and weaknesses, to have encouraged me to have fun and explore my potential, but also allowed me to make mistakes. It would of been good if they had taken time to know me, to show a genuine interest in who I was, my dreams and my life. They would of respected my decisions, the friends and relationships I made, while also offering advice and guidance as I needed it. Most of all they would of developed trust and installed confidence in me and my a abilities. They would of had my back and been a supportive parent as well as friend. I doubt I would be here now if they had done any of these things.
 
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rozeske

Maybe I am the problem
Dec 2, 2023
3,710
I saw you were looking for inputs from new members, sorry it took me a while to stop having mini breakdowns long enough for me to write some (man! it should not be this hard) so here it goes....

BTW - I get a lot of "get an abortion" or "never have children". If it helps you by venting this way, by all means... But I'm assuming we're past that point for discussion purposes.
You guys should have double, triple bagged it or should have gotten an abortion would also be my answer but like you said we are already past that point so.....

"I would have preffered it if you guys didn't complain to me how much you could not believe you gave birth to a child like me. I would have prefered it if you guys didn't compare me with literally every child and said how much lucky their parents are and how jealous you are of them. I was a child for fu*k's sake! What were you even expecting from me at that age? Mom do you remember when I asked you if I was born at home or in a hospital? you were irritated at my silly question and said 'of course at the hospital' and I had to ask you 'so if you had me at a hospital then there is a possibility of me being switched at birth, why can't we go ask them? they can may be give you that other child?' God! how much could you have complained about having me, for me at that age to ask you that question? I was so afraid that if you had given birth to me at home then i would be the only baby there and there won't be any hope of mismatch. I remember you were quite shocked by that question and stopped your habits for a while and tried to show abit more affection. Too bad old habits die hard so you went right back to it. Almost every child my age dreamed of being switched at birth so they would end up with rich parents that would buy them everything they wanted, take them to dreamy places blablabla....no I was hoping I was switched at birth so you guys could have your dream child and be happy. The biggest thing a child that age should have to worry about is....ice-cream flavor to choose from, new clothes and shoes, staying up past bedtime....I don't know, but definitely not that!

Am not gonna complain for physically abusing me and giving me a beating every chance you got, it's a normal punishment for kids here. When a child makes a "mistake" the parent would get angry and in the heat of the moment would beat the hell out of their child but soon once they calm down and see the aftermath they would regrate it instantly and hate themselves for it though they never reflect that to the child. The sad thing is whenever i did "bad" you guys would tell me to go to my room and wait there until you finish the chore at hand. That is where you would beat the hell out of me in the most efficient and organized way! What was that about? Sometimes I think you get some kind of sadistic kick out of it.

When i was in elementary and junior high, do you remember how you made me take tuition class everyday after the end of my regular classes at a different school? You never believed in giving me any allowance, apparently that was considered as "spoiling" me. Forget everything else that caused me, what i never got over is I would tell you how hungry i get to continue the tuition class and how watching the other kids buying snacks and eating makes me even hungrier, you had the audacity to tell me 'just because you saw others buy food and eat doesn't mean you should too, If you get hungry you come home after school eat your meal and go to your tuition class' but you knew damn well how tiring, time consuming and practically impossible that was. I would try to steal money whenever and wherever I could to get by and when you found changes on me I would get that beating that you loved to give me so dearly.
I wasn't even that upset about that, you never believed in giving money to a child for whatever twisted reason and I accepted that until years later when my younger brother came home late from hanging out with his friends. He had regular allowance like my sister at that time and mom you asked him why he was late and he said 'my friends wanted to eat out and i was waiting for them to finish so we could walk back home together' and you said 'why didn't you eat with them?' he then said 'I didn't have money and I didn't feel comfortable joining them'. Never in my life have I seen you so upset and so sad you almost wanted to cry. You told him why in the world would he stand by and watch others eat like an orphan whose parents died when he could have taken money to join them. He tried his best to explain to you and calm you down saying he didn't mind it and he wasn't even that hungry, but you would not have it! You scolded him to never do that, your exact words were 'how could my child stand by and watch others eat while i am living and breathing'. My child? What the hell was I? An inconvenience that should never have been born in the first place?
Yes it's not your fault that I failed in life that I couldn't even move out on my own, i will give you that. But i was still forced to live watching my siblings grow up in a way I could only dream of. How could siblings have the same and yet so different parents? Was it really me? Was i the problem? Was I such a terrible child to deserve all that?

And dad, when it was my university graduation, which is a big deal here, I told my friends my dad and sister won't make it so just my mom and brother would make it to the ceremony. My friends looked at me like I had grown two heads. since they never heard me talk to you on the phone they apparently had concluded you had died and that I had no father. You never really had the habit of calling me or spending time with me or conversing with me for that matter and i never really minded it because you would get so uncomfortable like a teenage boy forced to make small talk with guest relatives. Do you remember calling me that time (which I suspect mom shamed you in to) to tell me that I shouldn't feel bad that you don't call and the reason you don't call is you already get all the information of my well being from mom so there really is no reason having to hear it from me too :) how pathetic is that? No no, scratch that, how pathetic of you is it to be mistaken for a dead parent?

And mom do you remember that guy you knew that you introduced me that was helping me search for an internship? when he asked me 'your mom is a beautiful woman, what the hell happened to you?' Instead of laughing it of and obviously feeling flattered taking it as a compliment to your self...I don't know, you should have been offended like a parent and been on my side. At that point you might as well have told him 'I don't know man, I think I fu*ked up when I gave birth to this one!' but I guess that was a bit to unrealistic to expect from a parent.

You know what? I have always vowed to be the parent I never had. I have wanted to have a child and give them all the love and support i never received from you guys. As much as i was told and showen almost every day how much unwanted i was, i vowed to remind my child everyday how much wanted and loved they were.
Now that am dying before any of that, maybe it's a good thing I never got around to that. This things are always a gamble. They say no matter how much you hated your childhood, there is a good chance you will endup becoming your parents. So...

I am a grown ass woman now to realize how tough raising a child is and how tougher it is to raise one in an unstable marriage. I also understand that you guys did your best. But mom, dad, with all due respect, YOUR BEST, WAS SHIT!!"

For any one reading this, I just want to say it's ok not to have a child, especially when you are not mentally or economically ready. The world's population would even appreciate you for your decision.
You don't need to have a child just because society inforces it. You don't need to have a child just because you are pregnant, there are other better options than having it just to raise it poorly. It's even ok to not want kids for no reason at all. What is not ok is to have a child when you are not ready and raise them abusing the hell out of them both physically and emotionally! What is not ok is giving birth to a child you never wanted in the first place and make sure to remind them of that fact every. single. day. for the rest of their life until they finally get the sweet release of death!

I always say this whenever I get the chance and I will say it again. Having kids is not a necessity nor an obligation but raising them in a proper manner is an obligation and a big responsibility.

When and if you decide to have a child you need to realize you never get to choose what type of child you get. It's not something you pick out of a shopping spree. You get what you get. There is no return policy. And as much as you hate the "type of child" you got handed that you never chose in the first place, you need to also realize that child never chose you too.
And if you are not in a mental state to accept and love whatever "type" of child you get, even if you have the slightest doubt, please please please stay away from having kids.

Take all of this with a grain of salt. After all it's coming from a suicidal soon to be dead person who has never been a parent 😏
 
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tabris_075

Member
Feb 2, 2024
31
I've noticed that parents come up in discussions quite frequently on this site. As a parent myself, I like to think that we try to do our best and protect our children. But also realize I have failed at this to some degree - my oldest opened up and told me about his suicidal ideation and how he would have gone through with it if he wasn't so afraid.

I also know that not all parents share that same sense of responsibility. And all sorts of abuse takes place by the very people responsible for keeping a child safe.

Thinking back to when you were younger (maybe 12 - 18 yo), what would you want your parents to do differently that might have helped avoid you going down a ctb path?
I would've liked to find that my parents actually care about me, verbally telling me it would be reassuring. Don't beat you kids, it is no way of teaching. Chat with them often, about their day, their friends, school
 
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Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
3,559
If I could only pick one thing, then not give birth to me, as there are so many things :(
 
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Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Arcanist
Sep 10, 2023
424
That they shouldn't have made so depend.
 
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kane9191kosugi

Member
Sep 20, 2023
66
To not give birth to me. Simple as that lol.
 
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Green Destiny

Green Destiny

Life isn't worth the trouble.
Nov 16, 2019
862
To stop at 2 kids, they didn't need a 3rd.
 
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luisamanequim

luisamanequim

Member
Nov 8, 2023
25
I've noticed that parents come up in discussions quite frequently on this site. As a parent myself, I like to think that we try to do our best and protect our children. But also realize I have failed at this to some degree - my oldest opened up and told me about his suicidal ideation and how he would have gone through with it if he wasn't so afraid.

I also know that not all parents share that same sense of responsibility. And all sorts of abuse takes place by the very people responsible for keeping a child safe.

Thinking back to when you were younger (maybe 12 - 18 yo), what would you want your parents to do differently that might have helped avoid you going down a ctb path?
I don't think mine are a good example bc they are like that from severe trauma (especially my dad) and untreated and undiagnosed mental illness but...

Show me that they love me and care about me, act like normal people like other parents, make sacrifices for me like other parents, never laid a finger on me, never exposed me to 18 plus movies and TV shows, gave me some candy, didn't blame me for everything like my cavities, believed in me when I talked about some pain or discomfort. And the most important I wish they didn't have a favorite daughter, there's research on how that heavily and negatively impacts relationships between siblings and parents.

that's what a remember from the top of my head.
 
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HighFlight

HighFlight

Global Mod
Jun 28, 2023
632
{BUMP} it's been almost 2 months, and I've seen a new wave of members discussing the problems their parents have caused them.

If you could go back in time to when you were around 10 years old, knowing what you know now, what would you ask your parents to do differently?

You can read the post at the beginning of the thread if you're curious as to why I'm interested.
 
LetMeBeSad

LetMeBeSad

Student
Sep 21, 2023
162
Make me feel loved instead of disposable.
 
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HighFlight

HighFlight

Global Mod
Jun 28, 2023
632
It's been a while since I have bumped this thread, but remain curious to everyone's thought. Given the demographics of the site, parents tend to be the target of anger and frustration. As a parent of two adult children, both struggling in their own way, I am curious to know what I could have done differently much earlier to avoid their suffering. And while I have my own thoughts, I prefer different perspectives.

tl;dr; what would your 8 - 12 yo self tell your parents that might have set you up better for success as you grew older.

There is no right or wrong answers, just your thoughts on how things might have been different for you. However, the "have an abortion" answer doesn't help much. (Although feel free to use it if that's how your really feel - no judgement.)
 
Message In A Bottle

Message In A Bottle

📜 Just me, myself, and I
Apr 1, 2022
362
Abort. But that was a no-go from the start. My family is very conservative, so I would've had to NOT make it to the egg first - but of course, life goes the exact opposite of how you want it to unfold.
 
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sancta-simplicitas

sancta-simplicitas

Arcanist
Dec 14, 2023
456
That instead of trying to raise me, they should have gotten me an apartment and sent me a steady monthly income from the age of 10 or so. I feel as if that would have saved me from a lot of damage.
 
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wCvML2

Member
Nov 15, 2021
455
I don't think my parents have done anything significantly wrong, at least compared to the average. They were just very inconsistent with their parenting style like half the parents out there because they probably didn't know what they were doing most of the time, thus why I got a disorganized attachment style I need to unlearn.
 
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noname223

Archangel
Aug 18, 2020
5,169
Don't get fucking children if you treat them like shit. Watch some lectures how to raise kids at least. These morons just should not have fucked with each other.
 
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Ironborn

Ironborn

Specialist
Jan 29, 2024
378
I'd want them to actually try.
All they wanted me to do was be quiet and stay out of the way, not causing bother.
They never let me go out with my friends, never encouraged me to try things and they sure as hell never tried to teach me anything or spend time with me.
I had to teach myself how to ride a bike.
When I did try anything I only ever got dismissive or negative comments from them.
I can honestly say I despise them.
 
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Ferdinand Bardamu

Ferdinand Bardamu

No Future For Democracy
Feb 22, 2024
289
Not be drug addicts. If they have to be, for whatever reason, I'd ask them to use a fucking condom (like seriously they cost nothing!)
 
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