What's the business to prevent suicides by all means?

[Tnatalie]

Just read that the police knocked to someone's door because of SN order and now the suicide prevents line calls him/her.

Just... why? It seems like the people pretend to be godo and want to be seen like that. Overall, it's noone strange business. It's just sadistic to prevent others from escape from suffering.

 

[SCHOPENHAUERBITCH]

yeah, not just in terms of the law but in general, suicide is the most bizarre taboo. It's a personal decision to end your suffering and yes, it affects your loved ones, but who cares. It's not fair for someone to endure a life of pain just so that other people who are happy anyway don't have to feel a tiny bit of sadness and come to terms with the idea that maybe life isn't a big old party for everyone.
The only reason it's so frowned upon in the law is because most suicides are by young adults. For somebody to use all that government money for free education and (in the uk) free healthcare and then as soon as it's time to join the workforce and payback the debt of their childhood, kill themselves is an extremely financial loss. That's all it is. They don't care about our happiness.

 

[PI3.14]

For governments, it's simple, it's about mony, and loss of productivity, not only in regards to the individual themselves, but also their family, as the family getting hit with such an event will also lower their productivity.

For our families, it's simple, their potential pain that comes from grief, outweigh out suffering, they're basically protecting their own interests by keeping us alive.

Third is religion, my family for example are religious, Muslims to be specific, they can't be ok with suicide cus it's forbidden to help or assess in that, and also cus they fear I'll go to hell forever if I ctb.

 

[Tnatalie]

I don't think it's about money for government. Suicide cases are marginal, count in promiles. Not to mention many people who do it are on sick leaves due to i.e. chronic depression.

 

[Shananaginns]

yeah, not just in terms of the law but in general, suicide is the most bizarre taboo. It's a personal decision to end your suffering and yes, it affects your loved ones, but who cares. It's not fair for someone to endure a life of pain just so that other people who are happy anyway don't have to feel a tiny bit of sadness and come to terms with the idea that maybe life isn't a big old party for everyone.
The only reason it's so frowned upon in the law is because most suicides are by young adults. For somebody to use all that government money for free education and (in the uk) free healthcare and then as soon as it's time to join the workforce and payback the debt of their childhood, kill themselves is an extremely financial loss. That's all it is. They don't care about our happiness.

100% a personal decision that I should be allowed to make! It's legal to euthanize an animal and abortion is widely accepted and people will fight forever for it.. so why can I decide if I want to live or die? To use one of their slogans, "MY BODY MY CHOICE !" It's nobody's business and they have no right to get involved. I understand loved ones would be sad, but wouldn't they still be sad if I got hit by a bus or had cancer? Why can't I choose what I want to do with my life? It's very rare to be legally (depending on where you live) allowed to end your life and you have to have like doctors permission and a terminal illness. If it's for any other reason, you're not "allowed." We are adults, not children. I don't know about government motives as far as this goes, but I agree that they shouldn't be allowed to intervene in any way. Especially if someone is helping you or has knowledge of your intentions, they can face serious legal troubles as well as being publicly shamed. I just don't get it.

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

Just read that the police knocked to someone's door because of SN order and now the suicide prevents line calls him/her.

Just... why? It seems like the people pretend to be godo and want to be seen like that. Overall, it's noone strange business. It's just sadistic to prevent others from escape from suffering.

I'll never agree or understand why it's like this...

For governments, it's simple, it's about mony, and loss of productivity, not only in regards to the individual themselves, but also their family, as the family getting hit with such an event will also lower their productivity.

For our families, it's simple, their potential pain that comes from grief, outweigh out suffering, they're basically protecting their own interests by keeping us alive.

Third is religion, my family for example are religious, Muslims to be specific, they can't be ok with suicide cus it's forbidden to help or assess in that, and also cus they fear I'll go to hell forever if I ctb.

Completely disagree.... Government is replacing humans with AI anyway

 

[TANETS]

Just read that the police knocked to someone's door because of SN order and now the suicide prevents line calls him/her.

Just... why? It seems like the people pretend to be godo and want to be seen like that. Overall, it's noone strange business. It's just sadistic to prevent others from escape from suffering.

People are empathetic. But collectively people would rather prevent people from suicide rather than prevent the issues that causes one to want to commit in the first place.

 

[Shananaginns]

People are empathetic. But collectively people would rather prevent people from suicide rather than prevent the issues that causes one to want to commit in the first place.

THIS!

 

[OnceTheHappiestMan]

I think it's about fear. Not so different to other lssues like homophobia, transphobia, etc. fear to something unknown, something you can't understand, and there's no biggest fear for most people than death. So, basically all of society will react irrationally against it. Thus, political actions

 

[hurb]

normies are extremely emotionally dumb , unless they r forced into that situation in their life they dont seem to understand how other people think. they r genuinely not capable to put themselves into other people shoes
so most of the time they do things that they are taught its good or bad since they were kids.
u can notice it around u , the less awareness people have the "happier" they are since they simply don't think for themselves.
I guess to answer ur question , the majority of people have an extremely narrow view on this world , and see everything as black and white

 

[FuneralCry]

It truly is just such terrible extreme cruelty, I see it as so horrific how we exist in this prison anti-suicide world where so many humans want to do all they can to make sure others are tortured in this existence and feel the pain of existing for as much and as long as possible.

Anti-suicide is just so evil, all that these people do is cause way more harm and suffering, forcing others to be tortured against their wishes is such a horrific crime to me, I always suffer so much from being trapped in this evil world where I'm not allowed to find true permanent peace from this existence I just always saw as a mistake. There's so much evil in how humans do all they can to deny others the option to die painlessly, it's just so terrible how the suffering and torture of existing is seen as to force and prolong no matter what even know this existence was so tragically imposed in the first place with no limit as to how much one can suffer.

 

[SchizoPolyGymnast]

Just read that the police knocked to someone's door because of SN order and now the suicide prevents line calls him/her.

Just... why? It seems like the people pretend to be godo and want to be seen like that. Overall, it's noone strange business. It's just sadistic to prevent others from escape from suffering.

It could be that the authorities want to avoid a lawsuit.

 

[iveseenfootage]

Pretty simple. Humans evolved over time to not only prioritize protecting their life, but the lives of their communities. This was evolutionary selected for as it led to more offspring and the species' continued survival. Over time, this has evolved into cultural taboos around suicide and "empathy" towards people who are suicidal.

 

[itsgone2]

It just occurred to me but in the last few years I was wanting to get into suicide prevention more. I had made some small contributions to charities that support veterans since they have a high rate, but was thinking that since I had been suicidal in the past, and have lost friends and family, that it was something I invest in. I probably would have supported limitations on sources like SN.
I really forgot. This is why I think we can never gain greater access: when you're not in a hopeless position this is just completely foreign to you.