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- Aug 18, 2020
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I was dead wrong with my prediction who would win the 2024 election. I thought it was impossible to fall for Donald Trump again and it was obvious Project2025 was his agenda all along.
So this was a surprise for me.
I don't follow that many US media outlets. I think living or visiting in the country could give me new insights. I watch an independent Youtuber called Secular Talk. And I think he isn't representative for the average American citizen.
I think I have quite a German perspective on the US. There was a poll 2016. 6% of Germans would have voted for Trump. The rest would have voted for Hillary.
I don't understand why poor and (lower) middle class Americans support politicians that implement economic policies which favor the rich.
But this americanization of politics also happens more and more in Germany with the AfD. People decide based on cultural convictions and monetary considerations are less relevant. Or maybe its just desperation because of the costs of living.
I don't read the NYT, Washington Post or Wallstreet Journal. From time to time I skim through articles. But I focus more on German politics. It is impossible to cover everything.
But I often miss the perspective of American conservatives. In Germany and in German journals they state it as a fact that the GOP is more or less antidemocratic now and an extremist party.
Maybe back to the question of this thread. How is the sentiment of the American people towards Trump's second term thus far?
Germany has a new government since May and the trust crumbled within record time. Many think it is the last chance for liberal democracy before the AfD comes into power. It could be that similar to the US and Germans will be open for this experiment. Certainly not me and my friends though.
From what I hear there is already a massive disappointment in Trump. Especially, that he does not deliver on the economy and cost of living. How unpopular are his policies on migration and the deportations actually? I could imagine that some Americans consider his border policies actual wins.
I could imagine the zeitgeist is transforming. But I couldn't say in which direction. Whether there's will be counterrevolution. But there are not many Democrats who give hope for improvements. I think J.D. Vance would be way worse than Trump. Trump acts transactional, Vance instead is an ideologue. Especially, for Europe this would be a disaster. Europe hope that after Trump's second term this horror show will be over. Politicians bet on that horse. But Vance could make everything much worse.
The zeitgeist seems "anti-woke" that's for sure.
So this was a surprise for me.
I don't follow that many US media outlets. I think living or visiting in the country could give me new insights. I watch an independent Youtuber called Secular Talk. And I think he isn't representative for the average American citizen.
I think I have quite a German perspective on the US. There was a poll 2016. 6% of Germans would have voted for Trump. The rest would have voted for Hillary.
I don't understand why poor and (lower) middle class Americans support politicians that implement economic policies which favor the rich.
But this americanization of politics also happens more and more in Germany with the AfD. People decide based on cultural convictions and monetary considerations are less relevant. Or maybe its just desperation because of the costs of living.
I don't read the NYT, Washington Post or Wallstreet Journal. From time to time I skim through articles. But I focus more on German politics. It is impossible to cover everything.
But I often miss the perspective of American conservatives. In Germany and in German journals they state it as a fact that the GOP is more or less antidemocratic now and an extremist party.
Maybe back to the question of this thread. How is the sentiment of the American people towards Trump's second term thus far?
Germany has a new government since May and the trust crumbled within record time. Many think it is the last chance for liberal democracy before the AfD comes into power. It could be that similar to the US and Germans will be open for this experiment. Certainly not me and my friends though.
From what I hear there is already a massive disappointment in Trump. Especially, that he does not deliver on the economy and cost of living. How unpopular are his policies on migration and the deportations actually? I could imagine that some Americans consider his border policies actual wins.
I could imagine the zeitgeist is transforming. But I couldn't say in which direction. Whether there's will be counterrevolution. But there are not many Democrats who give hope for improvements. I think J.D. Vance would be way worse than Trump. Trump acts transactional, Vance instead is an ideologue. Especially, for Europe this would be a disaster. Europe hope that after Trump's second term this horror show will be over. Politicians bet on that horse. But Vance could make everything much worse.
The zeitgeist seems "anti-woke" that's for sure.
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