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Weebster

Weebster

Everyone is alone. Everyone is empty.
Mar 11, 2022
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Are we weak?
 
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motel rooms

Survivor of incest. Gay. Please don't PM me.
Apr 13, 2021
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No.
 
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☆AwaitingEntropy☆

☆AwaitingEntropy☆

Snuffing the Light Out
Nov 6, 2021
208
I feel like some people are suicidal due to specific circumstances, but when they resolve, their hope and quality of life may improve. Or, if they don't resolve, maybe there are still good things in their life that outweigh the desire to die.

Either way, I don't think it's a matter of weakness at all, just differing perspectives. Everyone has different levels of suffering that they can tolerate.
 
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Survivor of incest. Gay. Please don't PM me.
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Or, if they don't resolve, maybe there are still good things in their life that outweigh the desire to die.

I'm in that position, so allow me to complicate things some more. I haven't completely "gotten over" suicidality & I'm pretty sure I never will, I'm just able to manage it better.
 
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odradek

odradek

Mage
Sep 16, 2021
557
I think you answered your own question in your title. They got over it, we haven't. That's the difference.
 
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MellowAvenue

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Nov 5, 2020
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I'm in that position, so allow me to complicate things some more. I haven't completely "gotten over" suicidality & I'm pretty sure I never will, I'm just able to manage it better.
I really do think once you've hit the point where you've seriously tried to plan out an attempt, or especially if you attempted it and just survived, it's hard to ever really shake the feeling. It'll always remain in the back of your head as an option.
 
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Imissyoumydarling

Imissyoumydarling

a very majestic chicken cat
May 7, 2022
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No, it's not a weakness thing. We just fell a bit further is all. The others found something to live for, but it's harder for us down here.

The last time I was truly suicidal (as in actively planning, rather than just hoping I would die) was a few years ago when I was trapped in an abusive relationship and couldn't escape.

What changed my life and my mindset that time was a five minute conversation i had with a work client in a parking lot. We didn't even talk about anything personal, just work, but there was such a light in this man and such kindness that it changed something in me and I realised that there was indeed beauty in this world. I spent a week staring at a wall trying to figure out what was happening in my head... And I eventually realised I just really, really admired his light and for the first time, I felt hope. Shortly after I escaped my abuser and got set up on meds. And my motivation for all that was just the simple fact of discovering such a kind person who shines without meaning to. And I wanted to bring light to others the way he did to me.

Ironically I later became friends with him and told him the story... Turned out he'd previously been suicidal too and had no idea he had that effect on people.

I later helped some others. It's a whole cycle.

Things are different now of course, since I'm planning to CTB for unrelated reasons.

But being here has nothing to do with weakness. It's all about hope and those around us.
 
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Capsaicin78

Capsaicin78

Full time failure
May 4, 2022
238
I don't think we are weak at all. Sometimes it is just too much, u can't really blame people for using the only exit in some situations.
I really do think once you've hit the point where you've seriously tried to plan out an attempt, or especially if you attempted it and just survived, it's hard to ever really shake the feeling. It'll always remain in the back of your head as an option.
I'll never get over my suicidal thoughts. For me at least it is impossible, so I will try to get that ticket to the bus
 
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Hirokami

Hirokami

Out of order
Feb 21, 2021
607
For those who overcame such thoughts, that just means they found something that worked for them. Maybe a reason to keep going. Or maybe even a solution to their problems.

Not everyone is as fortunate, though. Where's the silver lining for the rest of us? Where's our deus-ex machina? There are many different reasons why people are suicidal and everyone's circumstances surrounding that are different. In other words, I don't think we are weak; I just think life fucked us over real bad.
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
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That their lives have redeemable qualities to it.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,590
It just depends on the individual and their circumstances whether someone is able to no longer feel suicidal. Of course, those who are unable to stop being suicidal are not weak, in fact wanting suicide can be perfectly rational in a world like this. All that humans have to look forward to is getting older and watching themselves deteriorate anyway. To me, there is nothing good about being alive. Life itself is very depressing and things can always get much worse.
 
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its-about-time

its-about-time

nope
Mar 19, 2022
807
I've been far more distressed and suicidal than I am now, and I've "come back" enough to have periods of time where I'm generally enjoying being alive for awhile. But even in the best times, I know I'm still going to kill myself, I just don't feel much urgency towards taking that action. If there are people who are suicidal but then decide to live and never look back, I couldn't speak for them, but I'd be curious to hear their stories.
 
RandomBeaver

RandomBeaver

I eat trees
May 10, 2022
290
There are as many reasons we get suicidal as there are suicidal people. We see however patterns of thoughts or suffering that triggers suicidal thoughts.

Being week or strong is a false dichotomy. We're all real weak as humans.
 
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whatevs

whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
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Who says we won't 'get over it'?
There are as many reasons we get suicidal as there are suicidal people. We see however patterns of thoughts or suffering that triggers suicidal thoughts.

Being week or strong is a false dichotomy. We're all real weak as humans.
In fact, sensitiveness in the right context, at the right intensity, will improve life outcomes. It's misguided to think someone that was too sensitive for her or his ordeals was just 'weak'. It's true that being sensitive makes you less resistant, but it also makes you more creative and perceptive.

All humans have a breaking point, and just like any material they will crack when the pressure reaches that number.
 
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