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I personally value sentient life. To me this position, even if ultimately subjective, is by far the most justifiable. It seems only logical to include all things that have a subjective experience, i.e have a capacity for suffering and well-being, in moral calculations regarding suffering and well-being. Drawing the line at "only human suffering" or anywhere else just seems like a post hoc rationalization.
That's good to hear, and I found in my experience liking/disliking taste of things is quite dependent on what I eat on a regular basis. Even though when I ate animals products I loved the taste, after a fairly short while of abstaining I never had any desire for their taste anymore. And some new plant-based foods that I never tried seemed iffy at first, but then I acquired a taste for it and all of a sudden it's my favourite go-to. I hope you will find your experience similar, after all, vegan food is quite diverse, contrary to popular opinion
I understand how your, as a singular consumer, impact can be difficult to imagine, however supply and demand is directly affected by consumer choices, and any single person could be the one to trigger the threshold for more animals tortured and killed. Breaking habits sure is difficult (sometimes impossible, probably), but cravings, in my and many others, experience go away fairly quickly after changing what you eat on a daily basis. The start may be rough, but it doesn't stay rough. I hope you consider it if you can!
dairy farms allowing an animal to live a fraction of their life and then murdering them is somehow seen humane by most and it shocks me. It's like if someone let me live a beautiful life in a nice sanctuary and I knit scarves every day for ppl to sell. Eventually, my hands do not work the way they used to, oh well, at least I have my pretty sanctuary. and then i turn 20 and they are like "Alright, times up! we gave you a real good life" and they shoot me point blank even tho i still have a good 50 years left just because I'm not profitable anymore.
Vegan diets and lifestyles can actually save you money. Veganism isnt necessarily expensive, its a lifestyle choice as to how you spend your money on food. Meat, dairy and eggs aren't necessarily cheap either.
If you've found away to be vegan and it be cheap I'd love to learn about it! I'm fully vegan in the sense of products I use like hygienic product, household products are all vegan but I do find that (where I'm living) the vegan versions like bleach, dish soap, vegan cheese is so expensive in my local compared to non vegan cheese and I just put that down to shady companies trying to profit off veganism being a trend and pushing that image.
I don't think most companies are trying to profit off veganism being trendy. I think it's about 5% of the population in the US are vegan. It isn't as popular as some may think. It depends on someone's perspective, if you live in California then veganism is popular, if you live in rural Iowa… not so much. The prices are higher simply because of the lack of demand, prices would come down if everyone was vegan. A lot of the processed products are organic too because most vegans tend to be health conscious. Organic requires certification which costs money, there is little room to pass savings to consumers.
Interesting, I can't comment on veganism in the us, compared to where I'm from the us is gigantic and I think then it just falls to my other issue with veganism which is just a personal issue. The effort my brain thinks it takes, seeing how much my best friend struggles to find a vegan version of a food product, then when one is made it's expensive, she was trying to teach me about e numbers and how it's mostly made out of insects and it all just blows my mind.
Would you push the red button? And do you watch Gary?
Contrary to popular belief, being vegan is not hard. I've been vegan for several years; it was an easy transition and is easy to maintain. Those who eat meat and other animal products signal to others that they think it is OK to support the torture and death of animals.
Most (nearly all?) deforestation for farming is for growing animal feed and for creating animal grazing areas. It's not caused by the vegans.
Yes I would push the red button.
Ok. Just checking. I've heard some self-described "efilists" say they would not push the red button (even though it is a necessary condition of being an efilist!) So now I always ask.
Gary aka Inmendham. Have you watched or listened to him?
I heard and read about him. Anti-natalist/ efilist, right? I used to frequent efilism/reddit. Oh I would definitely push the red button. I'm not one who sits around bemoaning existence every second, but if given that button, I'm pushing it. No second thoughts
I lived on the countryside with my grandparents when I was young and I can assure you the cow gave milk twice a day without being pregnant.
what i mean is they need to get pregnant to produce milk, and then the milk that exists afterword is for the baby..
