What are your thoughts on suicide without a reason?

[Al_stargate]

There was a popular sports guy who used to go to the same high school as me. He would come around and visit our sports teacher every now and then. But then when I was in the last year we heard he killed himself via car exhaust. Don't know the reason but our psychology teacher told us he was morbid when he was in high school, supposedly without an apparent reason. There was also an actor in my country who killed himself without an apparent reason.

What are your thoughts on suicide without being sick, mentally ill, or having other issues? It's not for me to judge but IMO why do it if your life is OK. Is it just morbid fantasy? Doing it to show to others?

 

[WorthlessTrash]

There's always a reason, even one as simple as being bored.

 

[JakeFlake]

There is always a reason; some people simply mask it better.

 

[Dot]

Thre wll alwys b reasn

 

[Al_stargate]

There's always a reason, even one as simple as being bored.

Not a good one IMO.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Not a good one IMO.

How is it our call what is and is not a good reason to go? It's an individualistic decision. Do i think someone who has good looks for example should CTB? Not really, but it isn't my life, and at the end of the day, they will make their own decisions and have their own reasons.

Aren't we suppose to pro-choice after all?

 

[lofticries]

Not a good one IMO.

Boredom is actually the main reason I wanted to die at 11. I contemplated many times jumping off this one hospital building my parents and I used to go to for doctor visits. I don't know why but I thought once I die I'd be transported to a cooler world. there was other shit going on as well but the main feeling was boredom of life in general.

 

[Lalari!!]

I believe there is always a reason, people might just not explain why.

 

[FuneralCry]

Suicide does not even need a reason, living is not an obligation as we did not ask to exist. Nobody needs to justify their reasons for leaving. We all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, it is a personal decision when to leave this world. Life is completely meaningless after all, and all that humans are doing is waiting around to die anyway.

There does not necessarily have to be suffering for someone to want to ctb, people can exit this world as they simply do not want to live. There is no such thing as a good or bad reason for suicide. We will all die anyway so there is nothing wrong with someone deciding to exit at a time of their own choosing.

 

[Samsal112]

Honestly, I think that if someone thinks if your life is OK then suicide shouldn't be an option, they are more likely to recover than someone who doesn't have a reason. FuneralCry said it best, we are not obligated to live. I wish society and the government could eventually go along with this. Some people find living useless. I remember watching something on TV where the main character said something along the lines of knowing that because nothing in life ever ends (showering, going to work, talking) and is always an endless cycle of repeating these things to where it just seems pointless to do in the first place (like with showering, if you get the gumption to shower today, you have to get the gumption to do it again tomorrow) then he wanted to die and just be done with all of the repetitive nonsense.

If we continue to say that suicide is ONLY a result of mental illness, circumstances, or a chronic illness, then we miss the point that everyone has the right to die. Everyone has a reason to commit suicide and sometimes that reason is that they're not having fun in this place anymore and they find it tedious. The mind is complex. We need to stop allowing quack doctors and oppressive governments to tell us that suicide is not the answer and mental illness and circumstances can change. It's more complicated than that.

I have also realized during my own suicidal ideation that more adults are depressed with living than we think. Going to work for a job that doesn't pay what you're worth, being tired ALL the time, being fearful of your government, and living or married to someone you realize is kinda an awful person is just not worth this journey we call life.

 

[SKDN]

Do you know what thoughts were going through his mind? What was really inside his head? Only the person knows what is his real situation... no one have a say in that but the person, imho

 

[Ligottian]

Thomas Ligotti, in an interview, spoke of what he called "proactive suicide". People whose lives are fine, but decide to check out before aging, disease, accident, or some other agent of horror inevitably came calling. He added that of course these cases had to be very rare.

 

[Someone123]

There was a popular sports guy who used to go to the same high school as me. He would come around and visit our sports teacher every now and then. But then when I was in the last year we heard he killed himself via car exhaust. Don't know the reason but our psychology teacher told us he was morbid when he was in high school, supposedly without an apparent reason. There was also an actor in my country who killed himself without an apparent reason.

What are your thoughts on suicide without being sick, mentally ill, or having other issues? It's not for me to judge but IMO why do it if your life is OK. Is it just morbid fantasy? Doing it to show to others?

There is no way to know if they didn't share, but life has so much potential when it goes well that people don't give up on it unless it gets rea;lly bad. I have heard of a famous actor from long ago saying he did it because he was bored, but even that doesn't ring true exactly- if he was so bored he wanted to die he likely didn't have close enough connections with other people, so that he actually died of loneliness, not of boredom.

 

[Superdeterminist]

There's no issue with it imo. Because suicide itself is not harming others

"But you're causing mental harm"

Yyyyyeah but people harm each other mentally all the time and often no one cares. Suddenly you care if someone wants to exercise autonomy over their life? F off.

 

[kipa]

No 'apparent' reason is not no reason, it is just that you don't know. Your wild guess at the end are so disrespectful to the people who died.

 

[Niko66]

^ Not knowing the reason doesn't mean there's no reason. People hardly do anything without a reason, much less something as drastic and my thoughts are that it's not up to us to decide whether someone else's suicide was justified or not, because we can't read minds, we can't feel other people's feelings. I would like to see some proof of these no-reason suicides and not just "But he looked so normal and fine in life".

 

[Symbiote]

There's a reason, some people just don't like to share or never want to share what's going on.

 

[JamieJambo]

There was a popular sports guy who used to go to the same high school as me. He would come around and visit our sports teacher every now and then. But then when I was in the last year we heard he killed himself via car exhaust. Don't know the reason but our psychology teacher told us he was morbid when he was in high school, supposedly without an apparent reason. There was also an actor in my country who killed himself without an apparent reason.

What are your thoughts on suicide without being sick, mentally ill, or having other issues? It's not for me to judge but IMO why do it if your life is OK. Is it just morbid fantasy? Doing it to show to others?

It can happen for any number of reasons. Mostly the stuff I am facing no one actually understands it. I can explain but no one actually gets it. Life can hit someone in a brutal why that no one outside the person experiencing that problem can actually see.

When it happens you are in a corner backed in

 

[Graytaichi]

Old age, die young.eternal sleep

 

[niki wonoto]

There are famous celebrities who have killed themselves. They already got all the fame & fortune, as well as success. So why are they killing themselves? One well-known example is Chester Bennington, who is the main vocalist of the famous rock band Linkin Park. He seems to got it all, but in the end, he still committed suicide (ctb).

And then there's also suicide over some seemingly really stupid reasons. For example, would you say those people who killed themselves just because of a heartbroken, or being dumped by their boyfriend/girlfriend, a stupid reason? And there's even a young teenager who killed himself just because his favorite cartoon character (well, it's from the anime Naruto) died. Is that a stupid reason? But it STILL happened nevertheless. What can we do about it? Nothing.

Life is full of irony & tragedy.
It's all random.
ANYTHING could happen, including ANY type of BAD things/events/situations, or even bad/silly/stupid 'reasons' for suicide.

- from Indonesia -

 

[Someone123]

There are famous celebrities who have killed themselves. They already got all the fame & fortune, as well as success. So why are they killing themselves? One well-known example is Chester Bennington, who is the main vocalist of the famous rock band Linkin Park. He seems to got it all, but in the end, he still committed suicide (ctb).

And then there's also suicide over some seemingly really stupid reasons. For example, would you say those people who killed themselves just because of a heartbroken, or being dumped by their boyfriend/girlfriend, a stupid reason? And there's even a young teenager who killed himself just because his favorite cartoon character (well, it's from the anime Naruto) died. Is that a stupid reason? But it STILL happened nevertheless. What can we do about it? Nothing.

Life is full of irony & tragedy.
It's all random.
ANYTHING could happen, including ANY type of BAD things/events/situations, or even bad/silly/stupid 'reasons' for suicide.

- from Indonesia -

Celebrities don't always have iut easy. There are a lot of downsides to fame- paparazzi hassling them, having to bve the star all the time instead of just being a normal person, fans approaching you all the time while you're doing your daily things- some people do reach a breaking point with all of this. Obviously his close friend from Soundgarden Chris Cornell ctbd not long before. He dealt with depression and substance abuse his whole life. There was a lot going on.

 

[Superdeterminist]

There are famous celebrities who have killed themselves. They already got all the fame & fortune, as well as success. So why are they killing themselves? One well-known example is Chester Bennington, who is the main vocalist of the famous rock band Linkin Park. He seems to got it all, but in the end, he still committed suicide (ctb).

And then there's also suicide over some seemingly really stupid reasons. For example, would you say those people who killed themselves just because of a heartbroken, or being dumped by their boyfriend/girlfriend, a stupid reason? And there's even a young teenager who killed himself just because his favorite cartoon character (well, it's from the anime Naruto) died. Is that a stupid reason? But it STILL happened nevertheless. What can we do about it? Nothing.

Life is full of irony & tragedy.
It's all random.
ANYTHING could happen, including ANY type of BAD things/events/situations, or even bad/silly/stupid 'reasons' for suicide.

- from Indonesia -

I wouldn't consider those reasons stupid, maybe strange at most. It just means that different things can trigger that same or a similar feeling of utter despair in different people. If they CTB'd, you can be assured that they were feeling very intense feelings, of one sort or another.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

There's always a reason, at least I can't imagine any reason for doing it for no reason.

Some people will have a reason that others won't accept but that's a different matter entirely.

 

[Lost Magic]

Well if they didn't have a reason they wouldn't have went through with it in the first place. Trust me, they had reasons.

 

[Klo]

There was a popular sports guy who used to go to the same high school as me. He would come around and visit our sports teacher every now and then. But then when I was in the last year we heard he killed himself via car exhaust. Don't know the reason but our psychology teacher told us he was morbid when he was in high school, supposedly without an apparent reason. There was also an actor in my country who killed himself without an apparent reason.

What are your thoughts on suicide without being sick, mentally ill, or having other issues? It's not for me to judge but IMO why do it if your life is OK. Is it just morbid fantasy? Doing it to show to others?

I don't believe this is a real thing. Even if someone says there is no issue I would suspect that they might not be aware or be honest with themselves about what the issue is. I do think being suicidal in a general sense because this world sucks and our society is sick and nothing is getting better would be totally normal.

 

[Funeralprincess]

There was a popular sports guy who used to go to the same high school as me. He would come around and visit our sports teacher every now and then. But then when I was in the last year we heard he killed himself via car exhaust. Don't know the reason but our psychology teacher told us he was morbid when he was in high school, supposedly without an apparent reason. There was also an actor in my country who killed himself without an apparent reason.

What are your thoughts on suicide without being sick, mentally ill, or having other issues? It's not for me to judge but IMO why do it if your life is OK. Is it just morbid fantasy? Doing it to show to others?

There is always a reason, even if that reason is boredom or simply being tired. I feel as long as someone has thought it out and informed themselves they have the right to

 

[NobodyKnowsMe]

As others have said, just because nobody specifically knew of a reason does not mean there wasn't one.

If I killed myself today, probably 99% of the people that think they know me would say that I had no reason. Truth is, Nobody Knows Me.

 

[LastRide]

It's up to YOU and ONLY you, to estimate how much reason you have for committing suicide. It may seem to someone from the outside that you have no objective reason, but if you think you have, then you have. It's nobody else's business to evaluate the rightfulness of whatever pushes you to do it. My life might seem great to many people, but nevertheless I feel it's time for me to go, and I am not depressed, I don't have any mental illness or other psych problem, I am not terminally ill, I have a successful career, money, friends etc. but I just feel the time is up for me, my physical body is starting to bother me like hell, pain can only be kept kennelled by lots of drugs, I will soon be unable to do any work, and my work is my life. So it's a very rational decision for me to stay 'stop it now while it has not become absolutely awful as yet' but it might seem a crazy thing to do to all other people. And this is the only place I can talk about it and not get indignation thrown at me ! If I talk about my plan to even my very best friends, all I get is 'don't' or worse they say I am ungrateful and stupid...oh well...maybe I am but it's not their decision to make !

 

[Capsaicin78]

I agree with everyone else. There is always a reason ( most of the time more than one). Even if you are not aware of those consciously

 

[Hurt]

Most people ctb for a/some reason/s. But I relate ctb without a reason with nihilism or some philosophy like that.