What are your thoughts on suicide without a reason?

[Eily]

There was a popular sports guy who used to go to the same high school as me. He would come around and visit our sports teacher every now and then. But then when I was in the last year we heard he killed himself via car exhaust. Don't know the reason but our psychology teacher told us he was morbid when he was in high school, supposedly without an apparent reason. There was also an actor in my country who killed himself without an apparent reason.

What are your thoughts on suicide without being sick, mentally ill, or having other issues? It's not for me to judge but IMO why do it if your life is OK. Is it just morbid fantasy? Doing it to show to others?

There is always a reason. If you are having morbid fantasies then it is sort of a mental illness. When you become so obsessed with death or mutilating yourself, it is an illness. If you are wanting to die even though your life is okay, then that's an illness. Depression is very sneaky like that.

But back to your high school classmate, he may of been perfect to you but you have no idea what's going on in his mind besides the claims of being morbid. He could of been a closet homosexual or hiding sexual abuse from when he was a child. Not everyone admits that. They take it to their grave.

I do admit a very small percentage are impulsive (especially when losing a lover) but at that moment, your chest feels like it's squeezing and you do feel like a piece of you has gone. The feeling is too powerful sometimes and people don't make it to the next round.

 

[Hirokami]

As rare as it might be, it'd be interesting to come across someone who decides to ctb without mental or physical health issues prior. Even then, I wouldn't necessarily label as "no reason".

 

[Stoned Ghost]

There is always a reason behind why people feel the way they do.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Sometimes the only reason is that you feel dead inside…

 

[Deleted member 847]

I'll admit when I was suicidal enough to even hang myself once, I was just bored with life, unsatisfied with my position in it,

I had real problems too but

I'd be lying to you if I told you that my social anxiety was what motivated me to go for it.
I just didn't think the game was worth playing.

I was also curious to finally understand what the mind is, eager to know if destroying my brain would also terminate my self awareness or if there was some other plane of existence waiting for me after my death

and I did get some data points on death all thanks to my attempt
(the teleportation/time not passing. An experience that people that go under general anesthesia also report).

For some reason I changed my mind, and now I think the game is worth playing (because I know I have the power to kill myself at any time)
Brains are weird as you can see

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[Hercules]

There is always reason why people decide to kill themselves. It's just that other people don't always know what the reason is. On the outside, they may appear to be happy and have a good life, but other people don't always know what problems they have. Everyone isn't an open book. Some people keep their problems to themselves. People who are happy and have a good life don't suddenly wake up one day and decide they are going to kill themselves.

 

[Floofy Clouds]

I believe we have agency over our own lives; it's our choice to end our lives for any reason or no reason.

As to the original post, I agree that the reason in that instance is just not known.

Here's a crazy idea (not really crazy). How about people just mind their own business as to the reason? It's usually just mawkish nosiness anyway (with the exception of closest relatives).

If I hear someone has died by suicide, it's just not on my radar to demand that I know why. I respect their decision. I may or may not feel sad. Whether that decision was ''right'' or ''wrong'', who's to say? Right or wrong, justified or unjustified, in regard to that person no longer matters, it's over with, leave them in peace.

 

[Deleted member 847]

I believe we have agency over our own lives; it's our choice to end our lives for any reason or no reason.

As to the original post, I agree that the reason in that instance is just not known.

Here's a crazy idea (not crazy at all). How about people mind their own business as to the reason? It's usually just mawkish nosiness (with the exception of closest relatives).

If I hear someone has died by suicide, it's just not on my radar to demand that I know why. I respect their decision. I may or may not feel sad. Whether that decision was right or wrong... who's to say? It doesn't matter, it's over with.

There's this belief that life is valuable and it always has
pleasure/good experiences to offer you, at least in the future if not in the present, so if you kill yourself you're being irrational because life has intrinsic value. Life is happiness to pro lifers.

They think people kill themselves to be comforted, and they think that's irrational because life can comfort them better if they just suck it up in the present or something

I think there's some truth to it (it's true that you seek comfort in death, and that other solutions other than death may also exist) but at the same time I believe we have the right to not play the game, even if the game could actually be beneficial to us long term (if). If you don't want to pay/work for that "future day of peace" then you don't want to pay for it.

We were born without our consent and they want to make us stay also without our consent

It smells like slavery, like I'm someone's pet and they decide what's best for me, since they own me

 

[7206LL3D]

I think that the difference between "a reason" and "no reason" is very subjective. Someone could look at me and say that I have no reason. I'm reasonably healthy, financially solvent, no criminal record, etc. But I know what a horrible failure I am. I know that I'm a useless burden. I know that there's no justification for my continued survival. These are reasons to me, non-reasons to others because they don't believe that someone who's apparently keeping their head above water could have a good reason to leave. But who is anyone else to tell me that I don't have a reason? In my opinion the decision has to be left to the individual.

 

[Oya]

There was a popular sports guy who used to go to the same high school as me. He would come around and visit our sports teacher every now and then. But then when I was in the last year we heard he killed himself via car exhaust. Don't know the reason but our psychology teacher told us he was morbid when he was in high school, supposedly without an apparent reason. There was also an actor in my country who killed himself without an apparent reason.

What are your thoughts on suicide without being sick, mentally ill, or having other issues? It's not for me to judge but IMO why do it if your life is OK. Is it just morbid fantasy? Doing it to show to others?

We never know what happens behind closed minds...