Pepperami ofc. Pineapple has no place on a pizza. Wow, contentious...
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The fact that everyone knows about his albeit *PRIVATE* note to @Jean4 does not seem to be in accordance with his modest personality.
He didn't broadcast this relationship on SS and it probably would have been a better honor to him to keep it a private loving secret as he left it between the two of them.
Jean4
Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
- Apr 28, 2019
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Yes. I found my voice after he left. It is something he wanted me to do.
This is a forum. Lots of things people don't know. ;)
Why weren't we public? Simple. As I have openly said. I am 51 years old. Never had a relationship. Which meant I didn't know how to have one.
Yes. I came out after he died. He was in charge here. I didn't want any attention. I was trying to find myself and have this scary thing called a relationship.
In his goodbye letter that came to me after he died, one of the things he said to me was that it wasn't my time and not to follow him and find my voice. I have.
No offense. You knew him kinda well. I loved him and knew his many issues which he didn't let people here see being incredibly private. I also know what he would have wanted.
Again. You can have your opinion.. and so can I, and we can agree to disagree. :)
By the way. Most people who knew Stan knew and trusted knew about our relationship. As his friend @SinisterKid can vouch for. ;)
pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
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"I dont think the thread should be locked. It's a form of suppression of free speech."
I totally agree. I don't let words ever bother me. I think all ideas should be explored.
Really??
Even Stan himself would not post such a thing.Here we go again...
Time to assert your "claim to fame" again...
***rise up subcult, oh rise great ones!!!***
Perhaps she was referring to within their relationship as opposed to on the forum ?Really??
Here we go again...
Time to assert your "claim to fame" again...
***rise up subcult, oh rise great ones!!!***
[ ducks swinging chair from saloon fight ]
After reading this, "pro-lifers" would undoubtedly be comforted in the thoughts that their words had an impact, and significant at that. In my opinion, they should have been ignored, as they obviously are not up for any debate. Indifference might be the best option. I'm not an expert, but I doubt they care much about being called out on their own behaviour, as they're not even part of this community.
Sorry you've been through such harassment though.
Sorry you've been through such harassment though.
Dawgmom
Member
- Oct 23, 2019
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GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
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That is exactly why I registered.
The Rules and FAQ specifically say this forum provides a platform for free speech about suicide.
I find it interesting when someone wants to dictate what free speech means when they disagree with another's use of it. Kind of like saying one is against censorship until there's something they want censored.
To reiterate others (1) I want nothing to do with this thread , (2) Plz de-escalate asap
I'm not .
No @SinisterKid .
So here we go :
If you don't want anything to do with this thread, you have the right to cease engaging.
And again, you may not be here for free speech, but I totes am.
The last part of the quote there, starting with "I'm not," was in response to another member saying they were surprised a mod hadn't yet shut down the thread, @Quarky00 was not surprised.
Over 28 hours of this melee, and as yet no deleting of offensive posts or shutting down the thread, even though I highly suspect there have been mutliple reports made, given the pleas for it to stop. @Quarky00 wants this shit show to stop, so s/he took out of context a post by @SinisterKid (see full post by clicking on the quote's arrow) to make the mod his/her puppet since no other mod is doing what s/he wants. Bad form. The quoted words were good words but with intent to *shame,* not members, but the kinds of detractors this very thread ostensibly was created to address.
This was the original thread the quote was taken from:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/what-do-you-wish-detractors-knew-about-this-forum.30355/
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nitrogen
Schrödinger's cat
- Nov 5, 2019
- 339
@Mud. isn't the only SS member who questions your "relationship" with Stan.
Quite a few reputable veteran members interacted with Stan via PM and knew him quite a bit. The consistent claim from them is that you and Stan's relationship is just in your own mind and you've been taking advantage of his influence to boost your own.
This is a quintessential example of when you overdo something, it tends to backfire. If you and your herd were more low-key, this wouldn't have surfaced.
Carina
Angelic
- Dec 22, 2019
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Can someone please explain... no.... don't.... I really don't want to know how outside people doing things against members has turned into personal attacks and a "show me proof you knew someone better" type of things.
There's a reason I believe in peace. This forum is full of people who want to ctb, who may be recovering and don't want to, or just are trying not to. there is no need to attack or fight among each other. That is literally what the people outside think happens here. They think things here drive people to ctb.
Being nice and peaceful, and just not posting doesn't hurt anyone, but posting something hurtful can do damage--especially here. I just wish people could remember that. It doesn't matter if you disagree, don't like something, or anything. They too are struggling. Maybe just let them be, or let others be there for them.
Worried about it forming a 'cult'? Who cares if it keeps them around longer. Compassion should be a focus here. And if compassion can't be shown, just move to another thread you can.
At least it's my thought.
There's a reason I believe in peace. This forum is full of people who want to ctb, who may be recovering and don't want to, or just are trying not to. there is no need to attack or fight among each other. That is literally what the people outside think happens here. They think things here drive people to ctb.
Being nice and peaceful, and just not posting doesn't hurt anyone, but posting something hurtful can do damage--especially here. I just wish people could remember that. It doesn't matter if you disagree, don't like something, or anything. They too are struggling. Maybe just let them be, or let others be there for them.
Worried about it forming a 'cult'? Who cares if it keeps them around longer. Compassion should be a focus here. And if compassion can't be shown, just move to another thread you can.
At least it's my thought.
Jean4
Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
- Apr 28, 2019
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In our relationship? He was in charge. He was the one who was the outgoing one. I hid in the background. Sorry you don't agree with how are relationship was. It worked for us.Really??
Here we go again...
Time to assert your "claim to fame" again...
***rise up subcult, oh rise great ones!!!***
I am also glad that you are so interested in the livEs of two strangers who you never physically saw on a message board. Glad we could brighten your day and give you something to talk about.
Tell me. What is the definition of Cult, since you consider someone who is grieving and trying to keep alive her partners name cult like? I am also glad that you never lost anyone in your life who you loved and have difficulty giving up.
You do realize that @BlueWidow who posted regularly on the thread CTB for this very reason. She lost her husband 10 years ago. She never got over it and went to be with him.
I pray you never know such pain as the widows and widowers of this forum know. Nobody should go through this. I wouldn't wish this pain on my worst enemy.
However, this post wasn't about Stan. It was about suicide and having an intellectual discussion pertaining to it, which nobody seems to want to do. ;)
Sorry to interrupt....
I'm boiling some eggs.....
Anyone know how many minutes for soft boiled ?
I'm boiling some eggs.....
Anyone know how many minutes for soft boiled ?
PoisonedJuliet
You saucy boy!
- Feb 12, 2020
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a.n.kirillov
velle non discitur
- Nov 17, 2019
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Aaaaahm what? No you use cold water, just enough to cover them. When they begin to jump up and down you wait 3 minutes and rinse with cold water for a few seconds.
Duly noted.
Thank you !!!!!
A new spirit of co-operation has dawned upon this thread !!!!!
We are all friends again now !!!!!!
a.n.kirillov
velle non discitur
- Nov 17, 2019
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But that depends on how good your stove is. If it boils water really fast it might take a little longer.
I received your quote to mean he was in charge of the forum. However I question whether he was *in charge* in your relationship. Its quite possible you are giving him all of *your* power as you have been on this forum. If you spoke in your own name instead of Stan's it is unlikely there would be this level of debate about your exploitive usage of his name.
I dont give a hoot about it but I DO care about how your relationship is being used to assert power in the name of "so-called" leadership which appears more like control on a message board. Speak in your own powerful name not in someone else's. Dont diminish yourself as you have been doing, IMO. Thats what REAL leaders do. They dont hide behind others who are perceived to be popular.
She never asserted her husband was a member (to my knowledge) nor did she ever use his membership to have power and a voice over others.
Honestly what you have been doing in the name of mourning is similar to what **drama queens** do in comedic movies where the grieving woman falls all over the casket and starts humping it. 90%++ of people didnt know about your relationship. Stan didnt boast about it which is all I need to know to understand that there is just a little bit of something *EXTRA* going on which needs to be called out.
Throw a stone and run into a corner...Yup...great leadership alright!!!
I'm done here!
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Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
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You did not register just for "free speech" -- but one about suicide , like duh . People did not come to generally argue free speech so cut the bullshit . It is about suicide+ . Ironically , GoodEffed , that SK quote was addressed to you , for the same reason.
Enough .
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
This thread is huge nastiness fest
Cool it
Cool it
I've never really understood why people want to stop complete strangers from ctbing. If it was a family member or close friend I can see why. But a total stranger who you don't even know? It doesn't make sense.
Jean4
Remember. I am ALWAYS right.... until I’m not
- Apr 28, 2019
- 7,557
Feel free to be an adult and block me if you don't like something. Or, continue to respond and keep this topic going.
Now if you excuse me please, I have other things that I must attend to and cannot respond to nonsense. Continue if you must. Have a wonderful evening.
Carina
Angelic
- Dec 22, 2019
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I'm assuming that the being nice, opt for peace, listening to even what @Quarky00 has said or anything hasn't worked for some...
I honestly don't understand why it's so hard for some people to just move onto a different thread instead of going after someone. It makes no sense!
I honestly don't understand why it's so hard for some people to just move onto a different thread instead of going after someone. It makes no sense!
fightingsioux
Specialist
- Oct 22, 2019
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I now only visit this forum occasionally, prefer to answer PMs about the subject I know most about: inert gases, tanks, regulators, etc.
I communicated regularly with Stan, mostly via PM: he was a fine fellow, very intelligent and informed, just a nice guy. Mainly we talked about the over-abundance of troubled young people on this forum. Neither of us could figure out what to do, maybe there is no solution. The world seems to have abandoned the traditional sources of advice and comfort: grandparents, older relatives, older friends and neighbors. It seems the internet now serves that purpose, and so we have this forum.
I'm not telling anyone else what to do. You have a right to your opinion. So do I. And in my opinion, all the goodbye threads are a bit silly. But harmless.
Jean, maybe it is time to let this one go. You can still remember Stan, of course. You can mention him in posts, tell little stories, give advice in the same spirit that you feel he would have done. That's really how most people honor the dead.
Peace.
I communicated regularly with Stan, mostly via PM: he was a fine fellow, very intelligent and informed, just a nice guy. Mainly we talked about the over-abundance of troubled young people on this forum. Neither of us could figure out what to do, maybe there is no solution. The world seems to have abandoned the traditional sources of advice and comfort: grandparents, older relatives, older friends and neighbors. It seems the internet now serves that purpose, and so we have this forum.
I'm not telling anyone else what to do. You have a right to your opinion. So do I. And in my opinion, all the goodbye threads are a bit silly. But harmless.
Jean, maybe it is time to let this one go. You can still remember Stan, of course. You can mention him in posts, tell little stories, give advice in the same spirit that you feel he would have done. That's really how most people honor the dead.
Peace.
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Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
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The thing is why would Jean lie about her relationship with Stan and how does the legitimacy of said relationship personally affect you? All I'm seeing is a woman who lost a very good friend and possibly even more than that.
Carina
Angelic
- Dec 22, 2019
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It's amazing how the 'old timers' seem to be more obsessed with Stan than the person they claim is in uncalled for comments..
It's like this thread wasn't about people on facebook attacking the forum, going to news, and going after members.... oh wait... it was.
Peace is good, how about sticking to the original topic? and keeping personal things out?
It's like this thread wasn't about people on facebook attacking the forum, going to news, and going after members.... oh wait... it was.
Peace is good, how about sticking to the original topic? and keeping personal things out?
It's a bit condescending to suggest to someone what they should do if they haven't asked for advice on that.
I'm sure she can decide for herself how she wishes to act.
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