Discussion We won!!! Assisted Dying has been legalised in Britain!

[avalon_]

Can't remember. My brains gone sorry but I remember "ignoring" them when I saw it, which I don't usually do. Sorry I can't remember for you tho. Think my personalities know I'm not in a good place and they forget stuff for me if that makes sense. Tired. Can't do conversation right now. Sorry

I just skimmed through their entire posting history and couldn't find a single insult. Are you aure it wasn't just a difference of opinion?

 

[2messdup]

I just skimmed through their entire posting history and couldn't find a single insult. Are you aure it wasn't just a difference of opinion?

I can't remember but the comment isn't on here now. Sorry. My memory is no good. Maybe I'm remembering wrong. I know I didn't report them tho. I think I only do that if someone seems under 18. But sorry. Not making excuses. I really can't remember what they said.

 

[TragedyBornCrimson]

This site has more drama than I thought it would, geez.

 

[AuroraB]

Patients with only 6 months to live due to incurable diseases win!!!!

This isn't really how morality works. The morals of 100, 50, 20, and even 10 years ago are not identical to the morals of today. The morals of the future will be even more progressive than the morals of today. There is a compound effect that comes from every change. This change leads not just to its legalisation but its normalisation. Making it eligible to people who have over a year to die would be unthinkable to most MPs today. But will that be the case say..... 10 years in the future? Probably not. The change and subsequent changes compound to create a cuture where an idea is normalised and therefore more palateable and easier to accept for many people. Another compound change can be the voice of suicidal people being heard. In some years time, suicidal rights and human rights activism may become more normalised and accepted than it is now. You can't judge the people of the future by the morals of today. Their morals will be more progressive than ours. I mean, look at how suicidal people were treated in the past and compare that to today. The difference is stark. Of course it's hard to predict how long this will take to occur but it's unlikely to not occur. Western society has simply liberalised and progressed over the centuries and it's unlikely that that trend will suddenly stop.

Edit- just to be clear, I'm not trying to make anyone overly optimistic about this. What I'm saying is that this is an inevitable change but it's also a slow change that probably won't affect anyone who is using the site currently.

When climate change significantly reduces the planet's ability to provide food, "assisted dying" will open up to many more of us as a global depopulation agenda.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Not quite like we have in Belgium, but at least the terminally ill won't have to suffer anymore (when/if it gets passed). Hopefully, this will push France to consider this, at least for people with a terminal illness.

 

[2messdup]

This site has more drama than I thought it would, geez.

Not usually.

 

[Weird username]

Patients with only 6 months to live due to incurable diseases win!!!!

When climate change significantly reduces the planet's ability to provide food, "assisted dying" will open up to many more of us as a global depopulation agenda.

Yes, absolutely right
Wait few years and they will allow retired people make the choice
Seriously, just surprised how naive people are

 

[Chinaski]

Yes, absolutely right
Wait few years and they will allow retired people make the choice
Seriously, just surprised how naive people are

Are you saying sitting at my computer and waiting several decades for a doctor to turn up and kill me is not a viable method, what are you some kind of prolifer or some shit

EDIT

lmao they've removed some of the op's post in this thread too, fucking hell whichever mod is over this like an incel in a cathouse needs to give their head a shake, absolutely ridiculous of you to keep banning people purely to preserve the feelings of one individual user, wtaf is going on

 

[Weird username]

Are you saying sitting at my computer and waiting several decades for a doctor to turn up and kill me is not a viable method, what are you some kind of prolifer or some shit

I like your views

 

[ijustwishtodie]

When climate change significantly reduces the planet's ability to provide food, "assisted dying" will open up to many more of us as a global depopulation agenda.

I wish that this becomes the case but what's horrifying is that I bet even an event like this would still cause many people to be against euthanasia. People's desire for life truly is scary

 

[Chinaski]

People's desire for life truly is scary

Indeed, hence we are both still alive

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Indeed, hence we are both still alive

Maybe you are alive due to that but don't assume the same applies to me. I don't have a desire to stay alive but I am forced to stay alive against my will. Why would I desire life?

 

[Chinaski]

Maybe you are alive due to that but don't assume the same applies to me. I don't have a desire to stay alive but I am forced to stay alive against my will. Why would I desire life?

You can kill yourself rn just like i can

 

[Myforevercharlie]

Did @littleadonis just get banned for this or am I tripping?

No.
He already had a high % on warnings. The warning he got for this one resulted in an auto ban

 

[ijustwishtodie]

You can kill yourself rn just like i can

I'd ask how because I genuinely can't see how I can ensure that I can kill myself successfully but I think asking for that is against the rules for this site so unfortunately all I can do is leave the conversation here

 

[Chinaski]

No.
He already had a high % on warnings. The warning he got for this one resulted in an auto ban

This didn't warrant a warning imo but anyway it will be rescinded in a month though right

 

[Forever Sleep]

That's a relief. Finally! I'm pleased for people suffering here who will (hopefully) finally have access to it. Their families too. Not that I think it ever happened but there was a risk of them being prosecuted for assisting a suicide when accompanying loved ones to recieve it in other countries up till now. Not to mention the awful upheaval of transporting unwell people abroad for it.

Of course, it won't do much at all for a lot of us. Just think... A few decades more. Then you contract something really nasty so that even doctors finally agree you're worthy enough for a bit of compassion. I doubt I have the patience to wait that long but I'm relieved we finally seem to be catching up to the more sensible countries out there. At last!

 

[HarryCobean]

Now they have no excuse to continue blocking Sanctioned Suicide in the UK!

 

[Chinaski]

Now they have no excuse to continue blocking Sanctioned Suicide in the UK!

This is about how to treat terminally ill patients who can be subject to prolonged agony as they approach death and not about a website please unlink the two

 

[MBG]

We haven't won anything yet. It only passed the House of Commons (the big hurdle). It still has to pass the House of Lords and other procedural steps.

But this will be a big help all around. People from the UK won't have to spend time, money and effort taking the Swiss Option.

This will reduce the wait time at Swiss clinics.

This new competition might make the Swiss clinics lower their prices.

This will encourage other nations to push for reform.

Unfortunately this law will still require that death be imminent: that usually means within 6 months. With dementia diseases like Alzheimer's you lose mental capacity to consent long before death is imminent so you're SOL….

 

[Chinaski]

We haven't won anything yet. It only passed the House of Commons (the big hurdle). It still has to pass the House of Lords and other procedural steps.

But this will be a big help all around. People from the UK won't have to spend time, money and effort taking the Swiss Option.

This will reduce the wait time at Swiss clinics.

This new competition might make the Swiss clinics lower their prices.

This will encourage other nations to push for reform.

Unfortunately this law will still require that death be imminent: that usually means within 6 months. With dementia diseases like Alzheimer's you lose mental capacity to consent long before death is imminent so you're SOL….

None of these things are accurate, for a start the principal beneficiaries are those who couldn't afford the Swiss optuon anyway, and if they could they're too ill to travel. The bill has absolutely zero relevance to people who are suicidal because terminal illness is a different thing please stop and also maybe think

 

[MBG]

If the law expands those qualified for MAID, that's fewer people who have to commit suicide by themselves (after figuring out how to do it and then getting the necessary supplies, and then doing it themselves hoping they got it right).

Just bc this law may not apply to you, feel free to ignore my posts, ignore this thread and even ignore this bill.

 

[Chinaski]

If the law expands those qualified for MAID, that's fewer people who have to commit suicide by themselves (after figuring out how to do it and then getting the necessary supplies, and then doing it themselves hoping they got it right).

Just bc this law may not apply to you, feel free to ignore my posts, ignore this thread and even ignore this bill.

Paragraph 1: if the law is not what it literally is but is something else completely different that I've just made up in my head, then x will happen and this is great

Paragraph 2: if this law which I've invented and is nowhere near reality does not apply to you then ignore this thread!!!

To repeat, the bill does not apply to you either, it has zero impact on literally anyone on this website. Terminal illness and suicide are not the same thing. Your time on earth is finite and you could feasibly spend all of it waiting for a liberal to sanction your execution. This is up to you of course but i am naturally going to find this a futile endeavour.

 

[Pluto]

 

[ham and potatoes]

I find all her posts so similar, it seems I'm always reading the same thing. It's surprising to me that she has such a solid fanbase lol.

I know what you all mean.... Every comment is basically the exact same, regardless of toppic.

 

[Dot]

This didn't warrant a warning imo but anyway it will be rescinded in a month though right

cnsidrng tht usr ws in cht recntly tellng othr ppl t/ kll thmslves alrdy & tellng evry1 2 stp b-ing s/ misrble slf wld b v surprsd

Not quite like we have in Belgium, but at least the terminally ill won't have to suffer anymore (when/if it gets passed). Hopefully, this will push France to consider this, at least for people with a terminal illness.

Hw hs scietl rsponse bn snce Belgm adoptd thse polcis -- hve thre bn rports of coercn etc tht opponnts in UK r afrd of etc

sending 'employment coaches' into psych wards

Hd forgttn abt tht prt

= nt as tho pysch wrds r designd 2 isol8 ppl in ordr 2 trt thm awy frm th/ pressres of sciety & dy-2-dy lfe or n.e.thng b4 makng thm a captve audnce of th/ DWP

 

[fleetingnight]

It's a good first step!

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Hw hs scietl rsponse bn snce Belgm adoptd thse polcis -- hve thre bn rports of coercn etc tht opponnts in UK r afrd of etc

News (VRT News) stated "some opponents were shocked about the result of the vote", but also said that polls clearly show that this is what the majority of the Brits want.

 

[waistcoat]

can't wait for a bbc news article to use this thread against assisted dying lol

that aside, i'm really glad, congrats britain

 

[Dot]

News (VRT News) stated "some opponents were shocked about the result of the vote", but also said that polls clearly show that this is what the majority of the Brits want.

Apolgis - ws refrrng t/ Belgm & impct of VAD b-ing legl thre